2024 Season Thread

[Screamin12th]

Are you ready to pay 22-25m per year for a guard? Because i seriously doubt schneider is.

there are only 7 Offensive right guards and 6 Left guards in the NFL making More than 14 million a season. No clue where the hell you are getting your info from. The average salary for a RG and LG in 2023 was $2.5 million per year. Now this is the AVERAGE salary not the TOP Salary which is over 20 million. You do not need to pay 20 million for an above average Guard in the NFL. 11mill to 15 mill will get you a tier 1 player 7-10 million a tier 2 and 3-6 a tier 3. Anything below that isn't worth picking up and THAT is what the Hawks and JS HAVE been grabbing .. the bottom of the trash barrel.

 

[Screamin12th]

I would rather they spend money on some OL scouts that can find someone to play the interior.

100% agree, who ever they have scouting Olineman needs to be fired.

 

[Screamin12th]

I would 100% Trade DK for a Guard and a 3rd round pick. Killing two birds with one stone, You dump DK's bloated salary and should be able to pick up a pretty good guard. You then also avoid Paying DK something he 100% isnt worth. Hell he is making 24 million ( average ) this season and is NO WHERE NEAR worth that.

I bet there are a lot of teams out there that would fork over for DK, let them deal with him and his new contract in 2026.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

I would 100% Trade DK for a Guard and a 3rd round pick. Killing two birds with one stone, You dump DK's bloated salary and should be able to pick up a pretty good guard. You then also avoid Paying DK something he 100% isnt worth. Hell he is making 24 million ( average ) this season and is NO WHERE NEAR worth that.

I bet there are a lot of teams out there that would fork over for DK, let them deal with him and his new contract in 2026.

Frankly I would:

Cut Jones
Cut Lockett (everyone knew this was coming, I'd love to resign him to a team friendly deal - he restructured to help Seattle in the first place)
Cut Fant
Cut Nwosu
Cut Jenkins
Trade K9 after this season (you'll get a 2nd from a contender).
Trade DK after the 2025 season - do not extend.

And start over a bit. Build the OL with the cap you'll have in 2026, find a new QB (as Geno is getting older), and keep Mafe/Hall/Jones/Cross/Bryant/Woolen... Love is cheap next year, but expensive in 2026... so having the extra room will be important.

The OL class in 2025 is not good, but it's actually more favorable for the interior position as a number of tackles are projected to prospect better shifting inside. As for letting DK and K9 walk, I know I'll get hate here, but the WR position is probably the strongest in the 2025 draft class, and the RB position is deep as well. I love K9, but he is constantly dealing with injuries, and if you get a good interior OL Zach can certainly thrive... I will be fairly annoyed if we pay DK/K9 huge money.

JS has put together some horrible offseasons (including last year) in a row.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

there are only 7 Offensive right guards and 6 Left guards in the NFL making More than 14 million a season. No clue where the hell you are getting your info from. The average salary for a RG and LG in 2023 was $2.5 million per year. Now this is the AVERAGE salary not the TOP Salary which is over 20 million. You do not need to pay 20 million for an above average Guard in the NFL. 11mill to 15 mill will get you a tier 1 player 7-10 million a tier 2 and 3-6 a tier 3. Anything below that isn't worth picking up and THAT is what the Hawks and JS HAVE been grabbing .. the bottom of the trash barrel.

Damien Lewis got a 53 million dollar contract with 26 million fully guaranteed, his cap hit in 2025 will be 14.6 million and price tags are only rising. So paying 15 million or more for a guard that's middle tier like Lewis seems to be the market for a average guard presently. It's hard to wrap the mind around the ever inflated paydays being paid out in the NFL. Is there a guard in FA worth going for in 2025, that you know of? Keeping price tag in mind. If so I'm interested in who that would be and what you think the price would be.

 

[Screamin12th]

Damien Lewis got a 53 million dollar contract with 26 million fully guaranteed, his cap hit in 2025 will be 14.6 million and price tags are only rising. So paying 15 million or more for a guard that's middle tier like Lewis seems to be the market for a average guard presently. It's hard to wrap the mind around the ever inflated paydays being paid out in the NFL. Is there a guard in FA worth going for in 2025, that you know of? Keeping price tag in mind. If so I'm interested in who that would be and what you think the price would be.

Lewis is the 7th highest paid left guard in the NFL. FYI

Lewis "looked" like a special player with a bright future and the Panthers over paid on a knee jerk reaction. 53 million for basically 5 years isnt bad. Like i said dont go after the big names But also dont go after the trash like they do EVERY year with JS. Picking up Olineman for 1 to 2 million a year.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Metcalf cap hit next year is nearly 32 million (last year under contract) IDK that a trade would be more then a bag of chips considering a new contract would be needed at this point. Guess you never know, only takes one GM that loves Metcalf. I'd bet that the Seahawks rework/extend his contract or at least try to.

 

[Screamin12th]

Maybe pick up FA Teven Jenkins ( RG, 26 ) From the Bears, He shouldn't command more than 5-7 million if that. BUT when you look at Olineman production and grades they can change drastically from one year to another based on "coaching" more than anything else. Hawks Oline didnt look to bad last game even with 5 sacks. 3 of those 5 sacks came after 3.8 seconds and thats on the QB.

Jenkins issue is his ability to stay on the field, I would put escalators in his contract based on how much he plays. Money talks and the NFL isnt like it was in the 70-90 when players would play days after having fingers cut off if you get my meaning. These guys miss games because of ingrown hairs.

 

[Screamin12th]

Metcalf cap hit next year is nearly 32 million (last year under contract) IDK that a trade would be more then a bag of chips considering a new contract would be needed at this point. Guess you never know, only takes one GM that loves Metcalf. I'd bet that the Seahawks rework/extend his contract or at least try to.

The league LOVES DK and he cant do no wrong. Just listen to how people talk about him. Its a joke and it also drives up the price for an all ready WAY over priced player that is not worth the money he is making.

 

[MrS]

there are only 7 Offensive right guards and 6 Left guards in the NFL making More than 14 million a season. No clue where the hell you are getting your info from. The average salary for a RG and LG in 2023 was $2.5 million per year. Now this is the AVERAGE salary not the TOP Salary which is over 20 million. You do not need to pay 20 million for an above average Guard in the NFL. 11mill to 15 mill will get you a tier 1 player 7-10 million a tier 2 and 3-6 a tier 3. Anything below that isn't worth picking up and THAT is what the Hawks and JS HAVE been grabbing .. the bottom of the trash barrel.

Trey smith is the top G and he will get 22-25m, the current highest paid G is getting 21m. Thats tier 1, you aren't getting him for 15m.
Schneider isnt doing that he has said he thinks guards are over drafted and overpaid. So unless we replace his ass, the OL is going to be a problem.

 

[MrS]

Maybe pick up FA Teven Jenkins ( RG, 26 ) From the Bears, He shouldn't command more than 5-7 million if that.

You are dreaming, he will get way more than that.

The league LOVES DK and he cant do no wrong. Just listen to how people talk about him. Its a joke and it also drives up the price for an all ready WAY over priced player that is not worth the money he is making.

WRs are easier to draft now than they have ever been, we wont get value in a trade. i think his value to this offense is a lot more than you give him credit for

 

[Screamin12th]

You are dreaming, he will get way more than that.

LMAO this comment shows me that you dont even know who Teven Jenkins is. Dude hasn't played more than 700 snaps in a season EVER. NO ONE is going to pay top money for him when he is also only an average ( 70 ) rated player. Blowing smoke is all you are doing.

 

[Screamin12th]

Trey smith is the top G and he will get 22-25m, the current highest paid G is getting 21m. Thats tier 1, you aren't getting him for 15m.
Schneider isnt doing that he has said he thinks guards are over drafted and overpaid. So unless we replace his ass, the OL is going to be a problem.

What part of " Dont sign the stars" don't you understand. Also only 7 RG and 6LG make more than 14 million a season they are not tier one they are top tier elite. When talking about teirs you look at average pay in the 3 tiers and thats 11-15 million. Go look at the averages of the teirs not the elites.

13 out of 64 starting guards doesnt fill out the top tier.

 

[Screamin12th]

here let me help you a little

Tier 1 ($11-$14 million/season)
Tier 2 ($7-$10 million/season)
Tier 3 ($5-$7 million/season)
this is for all IOL not just Guards.

Little different than mine but this is based of the 2024 salaries. Who have the Hawks signed in FA? Oh thats right the 1 to 2 million guys. How has that worked out for us? LMFAO!

We are always scraping the VERY bottom of the trash heap EVERY FUCKING YEAR. Lets get someone that has proven they can play at a "AVERAGE" level not someone that JS hopes can resurrect their career for peanuts.

 

[Screamin12th]

NFL Guard: average salary is $2,500,421

 

[HaroldSeattle]

NFL Guard: average salary is $2,500,421

Lots of players on rookie contracts and plenty of players nearing the end of career that skews the average

 

[MKHawk]

We don't have the luxury of concerning ourselves with what tier of the market JS will shop at (it won't be tier 1). We need to concern ourselves with the fact that JS has continually selected the wrong players in whatever tier he's shopping in for the better part of the last 5 years (Nwosu being the exception).

 

[Anointed One]

 

[JMR]

Frankly I would:

Cut Jones
Cut Lockett (everyone knew this was coming, I'd love to resign him to a team friendly deal - he restructured to help Seattle in the first place)
Cut Fant
Cut Nwosu

I think cutting Dremont Jones, Noah Fant, and <sniff> Tyler Lockett are inevitable. But Nwosu?? I guess his cap # is going to be at $21.5M, but you're only getting $8M of that back by cutting him. Maybe re-work the deal if possible since he's only 28, but I wouldn't include him as one of the top 5 most likely cap casualties.

Trade K9 after this season (you'll get a 2nd from a contender).

I doubt his value would be that high. Why wouldn't that team just draft a RB in the 2nd round? You have 4 years of control, and RBs don't really need time to develop as compared to other positions. Open the box and go.

Trade DK after the 2025 season - do not extend.

So it would have to be after this season since 2025 is the last year of his current deal (2026, 2027, and 2028 are void years), but I agree trading would be better than giving him another contract. Next year's cap hit of $31M just cannot happen.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

I think cutting Dremont Jones, Noah Fant, and <sniff> Tyler Lockett are inevitable. But Nwosu?? I guess his cap # is going to be at $21.5M, but you're only getting $8M of that back by cutting him. Maybe re-work the deal if possible since he's only 28, but I wouldn't include him as one of the top 5 most likely cap casualties.

I doubt his value would be that high. Why wouldn't that team just draft a RB in the 2nd round? You have 4 years of control, and RBs don't really need time to develop as compared to other positions. Open the box and go.

So it would have to be after this season since 2025 is the last year of his current deal (2026, 2027, and 2028 are void years), but I agree trading would be better than giving him another contract. Next year's cap hit of $31M just cannot happen.

Yah you're probably right on K9, maybe a 3rd rounder? Dunno. Yah I guess DK would be a trade prior to the 2025 season.

Nwosu I guess is all contingent on how he plays after his injury, but if he looks bad, then rip the Band-Aid off.