2022 Draft discussion thread

[Draft Crazy]

Looks more like a Chiefs or Raiders pick if Im being honest

I lose sleep thinking about the Chiefs drafting Wan'Dale.

 

[Orange Crush77]

I lose sleep thinking about the Chiefs drafting Wan'Dale.

Calm down

 

[Clayton]

I lose sleep thinking about the Chiefs drafting Wan'Dale.

I lose sleep thinking about the Chiefs having Daniel Sorensen on the roster next year.

 

[Broncosr0k]

I lose sleep thinking about the Chiefs having Daniel Sorensen on the roster next year.

I lose sleep because I have a 2 month old. I envy your life.

 

[Clayton]

I lose sleep because I have a 2 month old. I envy your life.

I have a two year old. I can power rank every cartoon movie on Disney+

 

[Draft Crazy]

I lose sleep thinking about the Chiefs having Daniel Sorensen on the roster next year.

LOL- I bet.

 

[Draft Crazy]

Calm down

That seems boring.

 

[SpringStein]

From an article in The Athletic this am from a writer predicting what happens with different QBs. He predicted Rodgers and Wilson staying with their teams.

6. The Minnesota Vikings trade Kirk Cousins to the Denver Broncos​

Dear Denver, I love your city, but given my predictions in this piece, I completely understand if I am not allowed back for a while. Look forward to seeing you down the road. Be well.

The Broncos’ Plan A couldn’t be any more obvious. They would love to take a big swing on Rodgers. Basically everything they’ve done over the past year or so has set them up for that. And if Rodgers does want out of Green Bay, the Broncos have to be considered the heavy favorites to land him, given the Hackett connection, their available resources and the state of their roster.

But what’s Plan B?

The Broncos have a couple of connections to Cousins. One, general manager George Paton was in Minnesota with him. And two, Klint Kubiak is now their passing game coordinator/quarterbacks coach. Kubiak was the Vikings’ quarterbacks coach in 2019 and 2020 and their offensive coordinator last season. The Broncos — for better or worse — have more intel on Cousins than pretty much any team in the NFL.

Having said that, there’s no way a team is trading for Cousins on his current contract, which carries a salary of $35 million for 2022. Two issues would need to be resolved before the Vikings could trade Cousins. One, how much of Cousins’ salary would the Vikings be willing to eat (in the form of a signing bonus) to trade him? And two, what type of draft compensation would a team be willing to give up to acquire Cousins?

The two questions are connected. If the Vikings were willing to pay, say, $25 million (not happening, just an extreme example to explain the point) of Cousins’ salary, and the new team was on the hook for just $10 million in 2022, well now all of a sudden he becomes more attractive, and a team might be willing to give up significant draft capital. Meanwhile, if the Vikings refused to pay any of the $35 million, well, now nobody’s going to give up even a conditional seventh.

The question becomes: Is there a middle ground that would make sense for both parties? If the Vikings were to pay $10 to $15 million, would a team give up a second-round pick for Cousins? Probably.

Trading for Cousins wouldn’t preclude the Broncos from looking at a QB in the draft. They could do both. If Cousins plays well in 2022, they could consider extending him. If not, they’d have another option with the player they drafted.

The truth is the Vikings are in a tough spot with no great solution. Cousins has a $45 million cap hit for 2022. They could try to extend him, but that’s not going to be cheap. Do they really want to tie more money to Cousins? They could play out 2022 with Cousins on his current deal and see where they are at the end of the year. Or they could take their medicine now, move on, acquire a pick or two, sign a low-cost veteran like Teddy Bridgewater and look to draft a quarterback who can be a longer-term solution.

 

[Mingo]

Cousins is not a value proposition at his current contract. It's not going to happen.

 

[Mountain Bronco]

Lot of talk about giving Lock another year and while I have been a big Lock supporter I just don't know that he has earned it. His bad habits remain and his completion percentages are just not acceptable for a starting NFL QB.

Cousins would be an upgrade over Lock and with the talent we have could make things interesting but the AFC is loaded and as Mingo points out his contract is prohibitive so unless the Vikings are willing to pay some salary and eat a cap charge to get rid of him, it just isn't a good value and even then it is questionable. The bottom line is there is not great option other than Rodgers for a few years. If that doesn't happen I think you have to start swinging at QB's over the next several drafts until you get it right. The Broncos have been hesitant to do that since the Lynch debacle of a pick, but you have to invest 1st round resources into finding the QB for the next ten years not just continual short term leaky bandages.

Here is to hoping Lock takes a miraculous leap, but the odds are long on that one.

 

[SpringStein]

Cousins is not a value proposition at his current contract. It's not going to happen.

Did you read the article?
“Having said that, there’s no way a team is trading for Cousins on his current contract, which carries a salary of $35 million for 2022. Two issues would need to be resolved before the Vikings could trade Cousins. One, how much of Cousins’ salary would the Vikings be willing to eat (in the form of a signing bonus) to trade him? And two, what type of draft compensation would a team be willing to give up to acquire Cousins?”

So you are correct - no one is going to trade at his current contract. Just as we picked up a lot of Von’s salary this year to get the two good picks from the Rams, the Vikings will have to offset his salary by paying him a bonus to get a decent return.

 

[Mingo]

Did you read the article?
“Having said that, there’s no way a team is trading for Cousins on his current contract, which carries a salary of $35 million for 2022. Two issues would need to be resolved before the Vikings could trade Cousins. One, how much of Cousins’ salary would the Vikings be willing to eat (in the form of a signing bonus) to trade him? And two, what type of draft compensation would a team be willing to give up to acquire Cousins?”

So you are correct - no one is going to trade at his current contract. Just as we picked up a lot of Von’s salary this year to get the two good picks from the Rams, the Vikings will have to offset his salary by paying him a bonus to get a decent return.

LOL No I didn't read it this time. Still not going to happen.

 

[SpringStein]

LOL No I didn't read it this time. Still not going to happen.

Never say never!

 

[nflbronco]

What picks are you ok with for Kissing Cousibs

 

[nflbronco]

What picks are you ok with for Kissing Cousibs

Cousins opps

 

[Broncosr0k]

What picks are you ok with for Kissing Cousibs

Getting a little too Alabama in here.

 

[Mountain Bronco]

What picks are you ok with for Kissing Cousibs

I would be ok with giving up pick 64 for Cousins, but I am note sure that would get it done. They would ask for pick 40 which those first ten 2nd rounders are really premium picks. It would all depend on the restructured contract though.

 

[SpiritOf77]

Getting a little too Alabama in here.

I was thinking Elvis ... but maybe it's all the same

 

[SpiritOf77]

Why did the Vikings hire Kevin O'Connell? Success with Rams, Kirk Cousins key in Minnesota's choice | Sporting News

The final vacancy in the NFL head coaching carousel has finally been filled.

www.sportingnews.com

The other main reason that O'Connell is coming to Minnesota? He has a strong relationship with Kirk Cousins.

O'Connell served as the Commanders' quarterbacks coach in 2017, Cousins' final year with Washington. The veteran quarterback posted solid numbers under O'Connell, logging a 64.3 percent completion rate, 4,093 passing yards, 27 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. He also had a league-high four game-winning drives that year.

Cousins has publicly praised O'Connell for helping him to develop in 2017. In fact, he compared his new coach to the pantheon of strong, young coaches in the NFC right now in a recent interview, per Pro Football Talk .

"With Kevin I see a lot of the similarities that I saw with Kyle Shanahan, Matt LaFleur, Sean McVay," Cousins said on NFL Network. "When they were hired as head coaches you knew they had great football minds, they were innovative, hard workers, good with people. The only real question was, they’re young. Do they have the experience?

"I think time has proven with Kyle, Matt and Sean that they knew what they were doing and they were able to learn quickly and being a head coach wasn’t too big for them. So I feel a similar sense with Kevin. He is a great football mind. He’s been around a lot of a great football minds. He’s a hard worker. He was big in my development. The fact that he’s never been a head coach before, that he’s a little younger than a lot of head coaches, I think the track record with the other guys would suggest that he’ll be just fine."

That's a solid endorsement from Cousins and certainly played a role in the Vikings' decision. Cousins has a $45 million cap hit next season, so Minnesota will need to get the most out of him. The team is betting O'Connell can do that.

Here's hoping that one of the reasons the Broncos choose Hackett over O'Connell was O'Connell's liking for Cousins ..

O'Connell: "I really like Kirk and would want to give him a shot here"

Payton turns to Elway and whispers "Get this ******* guy outta here"

 

[LGM]

Getting a little too Alabama in here.

But have you tried the fresh blueberry glaze?