Patriots 2025 Draft

[YankeeRebel]

Trading down is the best option..........if Wolfe can sign an experienced LT in FA.

Bowles would not sign an extension with Denver. Like most players, he'd like to see what everyone else thinks of him and is willing to dump in his lap.
With the money that the Patriots have and their piss poor coaching and playing, starting with a five year $125M offer might just get pen on paper.

Here are the top 10 available tackles. They should also be looking at RT.

Alaric Jackson should be in line for a significant extension if he stays in the Los Angeles Rams’ starting lineup next year. The former UDFA started 15 games for the Rams in 2023 before being assigned a second-round restricted free agent tender this offseason. Starting-caliber left tackles entering their age-27 campaign don’t grow on trees.

1) Alaric Jackson, Los Angeles Rams
2) Spencer Brown, Buffalo Bills
3) Garett Bolles, Denver Broncos
4) Tyron Smith, New York Jets
5) Ronnie Stanley, Baltimore Ravens
6) Jedrick Wills Jr., Cleveland Browns
7) Cam Robinson, Jacksonville Jaguars
8) Morgan Moses, New York Jets
9) Dan Moore Jr., Pittsburgh Steelers
10) Walker Little, Jacksonville Jaguars

They should also be able to woo at least one top WR with a big cash offer. Tee Higgins 4/$120M?

1) Tee Higgins, Cincinnati Bengals
2) Chris Godwin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
3) Stefon Diggs, Houston Texans
4) Amari Cooper, Cleveland Browns
5) Hollywood Brown, Kansas City Chiefs
6) Diontae Johnson, Carolina Panthers
7) Keenan Allen, Chicago Bears
8) Mike Williams, New York Jets
9) DeAndre Hopkins, Tennessee Titans
10) Darius Slayton, New York Giants

If signing two OT and One WR costs $80M per year, Wolfe will still have $59M to spend. He just can't do the BB scenario and wait until day three to start overpaying for crumbs (Jonnu Smith, Agholor, etc, etc, etc.)

Agreed

 

[Southieinnc]

So question: As it stands now the Pats are positioned to get the number one pick. There are two FA LTs that would be a nice fit Cam Robinson and Garrett Bowles if the Pats acquire one of those two players what you feel is the best option with the number one overall pick?

I still feel trading out for additional picks this year and next is the best option. As I stated yesterday I don't feel like we need to draft WR yet again, and we can move down still pick up Edge and DT.

What say you all

Trade down and get a lot of picks from QB needing teams. Prioritize getting a very good LT in trade or free agent. Pick one in draft also. Picking a WR should not be hard, we just have not been good at it? Will we see any improvement from our young receivers as this year goes on? We need improvements across the board. We need a lot of picks -quality picks like Jacobi Meyers and Onwenu. We need staff that can scout those picks!

 

[Southieinnc]

Trading down is the best option..........if Wolfe can sign an experienced LT in FA.

Bowles would not sign an extension with Denver. Like most players, he'd like to see what everyone else thinks of him and is willing to dump in his lap.
With the money that the Patriots have and their piss poor coaching and playing, starting with a five year $125M offer might just get pen on paper.

Here are the top 10 available tackles. They should also be looking at RT.

Alaric Jackson should be in line for a significant extension if he stays in the Los Angeles Rams’ starting lineup next year. The former UDFA started 15 games for the Rams in 2023 before being assigned a second-round restricted free agent tender this offseason. Starting-caliber left tackles entering their age-27 campaign don’t grow on trees.

1) Alaric Jackson, Los Angeles Rams
2) Spencer Brown, Buffalo Bills
3) Garett Bolles, Denver Broncos
4) Tyron Smith, New York Jets
5) Ronnie Stanley, Baltimore Ravens
6) Jedrick Wills Jr., Cleveland Browns
7) Cam Robinson, Jacksonville Jaguars
8) Morgan Moses, New York Jets
9) Dan Moore Jr., Pittsburgh Steelers
10) Walker Little, Jacksonville Jaguars

They should also be able to woo at least one top WR with a big cash offer. Tee Higgins 4/$120M?

1) Tee Higgins, Cincinnati Bengals
2) Chris Godwin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
3) Stefon Diggs, Houston Texans
4) Amari Cooper, Cleveland Browns
5) Hollywood Brown, Kansas City Chiefs
6) Diontae Johnson, Carolina Panthers
7) Keenan Allen, Chicago Bears
8) Mike Williams, New York Jets
9) DeAndre Hopkins, Tennessee Titans
10) Darius Slayton, New York Giants

If signing two OT and One WR costs $80M per year, Wolfe will still have $59M to spend. He just can't do the BB scenario and wait until day three to start overpaying for crumbs (Jonnu Smith, Agholor, etc, etc, etc.)

We agree often but when it comes down to paying old players big money, I’m not on board. Can you find any WR or LT that is not on social security?

 

[cheerupcharlie]

Definitely need to trade back if possible. Only problem is there isn’t a potential great QB in this draft. Several good but no Caleb..Daniels or Maye. The best QB in this draft would be 4th ranked at best in last years draft. If we can’t get adequate value and have to stay put, I would draft WR/DB Hunter from Colorado(that’s if we get a decent LT in free agency). Hunter is a legit #1 WR. If he does play both sides, him on Gonzalez would be an excellent duo.

 

[BigKen]

We agree often but when it comes down to paying old players big money, I’m not on board. Can you find any WR or LT that is not on social security?

Not too many canes being used by this group.

1) Alaric Jackson, Los Angeles Rams (26)
2) Spencer Brown, Buffalo Bills (29)
3) Garett Bolles, Denver Broncos (32) Maybe 2/$36M??
4) Tyron Smith, New York Jets (34) NO!!!!!
5) Ronnie Stanley, Baltimore Ravens (26)
6) Jedrick Wills Jr., Cleveland Browns (25)
7) Cam Robinson, Jacksonville Jaguars (30)Maybe 3/$45M??
8) Morgan Moses, New York Jets (33)NO!!!!!
9) Dan Moore Jr., Pittsburgh Steelers (26)
10) Walker Little, Jacksonville Jaguars (25)

 

[YankeeRebel]

Definitely need to trade back if possible. Only problem is there isn’t a potential great QB in this draft. Several good but no Caleb..Daniels or Maye. The best QB in this draft would be 4th ranked at best in last years draft. If we can’t get adequate value and have to stay put, I would draft WR/DB Hunter from Colorado(that’s if we get a decent LT in free agency). Hunter is a legit #1 WR. If he does play both sides, him on Gonzalez would be an excellent duo.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Definitely need to trade back if possible. Only problem is there isn’t a potential great QB in this draft. Several good but no Caleb..Daniels or Maye. The best QB in this draft would be 4th ranked at best in last years draft. If we can’t get adequate value and have to stay put, I would draft WR/DB Hunter from Colorado(that’s if we get a decent LT in free agency). Hunter is a legit #1 WR. If he does play both sides, him on Gonzalez would be an excellent duo.

I'm averse to WR at #1, II'm averese to WR period.

 

[nefansince75]

Definitely need to trade back if possible. Only problem is there isn’t a potential great QB in this draft. Several good but no Caleb..Daniels or Maye. The best QB in this draft would be 4th ranked at best in last years draft. If we can’t get adequate value and have to stay put, I would draft WR/DB Hunter from Colorado(that’s if we get a decent LT in free agency). Hunter is a legit #1 WR. If he does play both sides, him on Gonzalez would be an excellent duo.

I don't disagree, but there might some value gained by letting someone a couple picks back leap frog to get the guy they want, as long as a decent pick is certain to be there and the value gained is meaningful.

 

[cheerupcharlie]

I'm averse to WR at #1, II'm averese to WR period.

If we can solidly 2 positions of need with 1 pick. Who would probably be the best at those positions…. I’d do it. Even if we had a good o-line we still do not have a WR that the opposition has to game plan for. Brady made average WR’s good. It will take Maye awhile before he can do that. And he might not ever. We need a true #1. Not a few 2’s. And that’s being generous.

 

[cheerupcharlie]

I don't disagree, but there might some value gained by letting someone a couple picks back leap frog to get the guy they want, as long as a decent pick is certain to be there and the value gained is meaningful.

Besides Hunter, there isn’t a single QB that any team is drooling over. Hopefully some team does when they get to the combine.

There hasn’t been a player like Hunter maybe ever in college. Top 3 at 2 important positions.

 

[YankeeRebel]

If we can solidly 2 positions of need with 1 pick. Who would probably be the best at those positions…. I’d do it. Even if we had a good o-line we still do not have a WR that the opposition has to game plan for. Brady made average WR’s good. It will take Maye awhile before he can do that. And he might not ever. We need a true #1. Not a few 2’s. And that’s being generous.

Generous in your opinion. As I said we have a lot of rookie and second year WRs, a rookie QB, rookie coach, shitty O-Coordinator. We drafted a lot of WRs in the last two years / three years, we need to develop them and stop drafting them all the time. We have to many other needs, DT, LT, EDGE, CB, S and OC.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Besides Hunter, there isn’t a single QB that any team is drooling over. Hopefully some team does when they get to the combine.

There hasn’t been a player like Hunter maybe ever in college. Top 3 at 2 important positions.

in the NFL generally speaking players rarely play both sides of the ball. And if they are drooling and we have the number one pick let them drool and give up some draft positions.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

in the NFL generally speaking players rarely play both sides of the ball. And if they are drooling and we have the number one pick let them drool and give up some draft positions.

Totally agree. Would be a nice to have as he could flip positions if the need arose
Similar to Troy Brown a handful of years ago.

BB would take him. A versatile and smart player.

Trade the pick. Hopefully for #6 or higher. I think OT Banks will still be there at 6?


Then if there is interest from a team see if they could package some picks and get back into the mid first. Take the best available team need.

Some so called experts are claiming top 16 are likely NFL ready. After that the talent starts to drop off.

Wishful thinking, I know.

 

[Southieinnc]

Totally agree. Would be a nice to have as he could flip positions if the need arose
Similar to Troy Brown a handful of years ago.

BB would take him. A versatile and smart player.

Trade the pick. Hopefully for #6 or higher. I think OT Banks will still be there at 6?


Then if there is interest from a team see if they could package some picks and get back into the mid first. Take the best available team need.

Some so called experts are claiming top 16 are likely NFL ready. After that the talent starts to drop off.

Wishful thinking, I know.

It is typical for the draft cut-off for immediate impact players around top 15.
There are good and even great players after that but that is the typical line.....

 

[NWPATSFAN]

It is typical for the draft cut-off for immediate impact players around top 15.
There are good and even great players after that but that is the typical line.....

Of course, just talking in general. This entire draft class is considered one of the weakest in years. Doesn't mean there won't be good to great players that emerge from it. Just have to find those diamonds in the rough.

 

[BigKen]

This entire draft class is considered one of the weakest in years

Think any teams will forego the draft because a bunch of schmucks have declared it weak??

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Think any teams will forego the draft because a bunch of schmucks have declared it weak??

Nope. Just thinking that it's a bad year for NE having 9 picks. Not as if the experts have never been wrong before.

 

[BigKen]

Not as if the experts have never been wrong before.

Patriots have to do something in free agency that will allow them to fold the draft into what they have in place.

IF they can sign a LT, CB and maybe a RT and WR, the draft become a much more friendly event. They can then look at where they need to strengthen the team by 2026 and make 2026 their goal year for getting back into a contenders position.

Like I've said about twenty times. Free Agency and the willingness to pay because of the Mass. tax situation can make or break the draft. They've already started extending players and made sure that they are compensated with financial security against the Millionaire Tax. They've taken the correct steps in house. Now they have to be ready to compensate for the 4% added penalty on a $100M contract by making it a $105M contract.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Patriots have to do something in free agency that will allow them to fold the draft into what they have in place.

IF they can sign a LT, CB and maybe a RT and WR, the draft become a much more friendly event. They can then look at where they need to strengthen the team by 2026 and make 2026 their goal year for getting back into a contenders position.

Like I've said about twenty times. Free Agency and the willingness to pay because of the Mass. tax situation can make or break the draft. They've already started extending players and made sure that they are compensated with financial security against the Millionaire Tax. They've taken the correct steps in house. Now they have to be ready to compensate for the 4% added penalty on a $100M contract by making it a $105M contract.

I don't think anyone will disagree with you about signing FAs. But, will the FO go out and do that? I've stated I hope that was there plan going into this year. Been on that soap box for a while. But I'm really starting to have my doubts.

 

[BigKen]

I've stated I hope that was there plan going into this year. Been on that soap box for a while. But I'm really starting to have my doubts.

Failure on FO to really have a plan is like dropping your shorts and asking a place kicker to kick you as hard as possible in the nutz to punish yourself for not paying attention when you asked him the first time.