Patriots 2025 Draft

[Southieinnc]

I don't think it's as easy as sitting them. Working them into game scenarios / situations okay I get that, but to say hey bench guy you are now a starter have fun, I don't think that bodes well for team spirit.

There is a time for drastic action. This may be that time.
I don't know what drastic action is called for but we are paying people to know.
I'm not worried about wins at this time but we better see improvement
Otherwise, we'll need 22 draft picks next year......

 

[BigKen]

I'm not worried about wins at this time but we better see improvement
Otherwise, we'll need 22 draft picks next year......

$37,759,383

That money is sitting in Wolfe's desk as I type.

2024	$227,581,757	$265,341,140	$37,759,383
2025	$176,265,060	$309,153,361	$132,888,301

That is the Patriots' cap space to spend on free agents next year. Think they should be looking to roll over the $37, 759,383 and have
$170,647,684?
I know that this team is not making the playoffs in 2024. Should they be looking to pick up more 6th and 7th rouind draft picks and send Kenderick Bourne, Johnathan Jones (Highest cap number on the team $10.4M) or anyone else to a contender? What is the limit than can be rolled over? If they keep dumping players, how many free agents will want to come to the Patriots and be part of a never ending rebuild?
We're halfway through this season already and this management group has ignore all of the remaining free agents available. Something just doesn't smell right about the way that this roster is being built.

 

[cdumler7]

$37,759,383

That money is sitting in Wolfe's desk as I type.

2024	$227,581,757	$265,341,140	$37,759,383
2025	$176,265,060	$309,153,361	$132,888,301

That is the Patriots' cap space to spend on free agents next year. Think they should be looking to roll over the $37, 759,383 and have
$170,647,684?
I know that this team is not making the playoffs in 2024. Should they be looking to pick up more 6th and 7th rouind draft picks and send Kenderick Bourne, Johnathan Jones (Highest cap number on the team $10.4M) or anyone else to a contender? What is the limit than can be rolled over? If they keep dumping players, how many free agents will want to come to the Patriots and be part of a never ending rebuild?
We're halfway through this season already and this management group has ignore all of the remaining free agents available. Something just doesn't smell right about the way that this roster is being built.

You can roll over the entire amount. Really the only rule the NFL has is that the cap space over a 4-year period must have 89% of that money spent. So you can have a low year but still be fine.

 

[Southieinnc]

$37,759,383

That money is sitting in Wolfe's desk as I type.

2024	$227,581,757	$265,341,140	$37,759,383
2025	$176,265,060	$309,153,361	$132,888,301

That is the Patriots' cap space to spend on free agents next year. Think they should be looking to roll over the $37, 759,383 and have
$170,647,684?
I know that this team is not making the playoffs in 2024. Should they be looking to pick up more 6th and 7th rouind draft picks and send Kenderick Bourne, Johnathan Jones (Highest cap number on the team $10.4M) or anyone else to a contender? What is the limit than can be rolled over? If they keep dumping players, how many free agents will want to come to the Patriots and be part of a never ending rebuild?
We're halfway through this season already and this management group has ignore all of the remaining free agents available. Something just doesn't smell right about the way that this roster is being built.

Just throw all the money at every over the hill, underperforming, cancer in the NFL. Yeah, that will work great!

 

[cdumler7]

Just throw all the money at every over the hill, underperforming, cancer in the NFL. Yeah, that will work great!

This is what happens most years. The teams with the most cap space are usually the teams without a great roster because they have no one to pay of their own guys. So it means then they have to pay what is called the "Loser Tax" in overpaying big time for average talent and it is not a great way to build a roster. Do you really want to pay say Tee Higgins top-5 WR money when he is probably closer to a #2 type WR? Might have to if you want to improve that WR room. Same with OL. Do you want to pay Garret Bolles top-3 LT money when he is probably closer to 10th best LT in football?

 

[cdumler7]

At least you guys are not paying $85 million for a guy not on your roster. Talk about compounding a bad decision. Trade major draft capital then hand him a huge contract on top of it.

 

[BigKen]

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Panthers won yesterday and dropped from the first pick to the third.

Patriots moved up to #1 and the Jags to #2.

Patriots don't have an easy opponent for the remainder of their last 8 games and could cement the #1 before their bye week in five weeks.

 

[BigKen]

No matter what, if the Patriots hold on to the #1 pick, they will trade it to one of three teams. Cleveland, Las Vegas, NY Giants. All three will be looking for a QB and one will want Shedure Sanders COL. It will net them #3,#4 or #5 and either a 2026 first or a 2025 third. A third would give them 3 selections in the third in 2025.

I think that they would go as follows if they get a 1 and 3. Position with name to fill in.

1. OT Will Banks TX
2. WR Tre Harris Ole Miss
3. WR Nic Anderson OK
3. EDGE Patrick Payton FL ST
3. OT Blake Miller CLEM
4. RB Nicholas Singleton Penn ST
5. TE Tyler Warren Penn ST
6. CB Maxwell Hairston TENN
7. OG Jaeden Roberts ALA
7. DL DeMonte Capehart CLEM

 

[YankeeRebel]

No matter what, if the Patriots hold on to the #1 pick, they will trade it to one of three teams. Cleveland, Las Vegas, NY Giants. All three will be looking for a QB and one will want Shedure Sanders COL. It will net them #3,#4 or #5 and either a 2026 first or a 2025 third. A third would give them 3 selections in the third in 2025.

I think that they would go as follows if they get a 1 and 3. Position with name to fill in.

1. OT Will Banks TX
2. WR Tre Harris Ole Miss
3. WR Nic Anderson OK
3. EDGE Patrick Payton FL ST
3. OT Blake Miller CLEM
4. RB Nicholas Singleton Penn ST
5. TE Tyler Warren Penn ST
6. CB Maxwell Hairston TENN
7. OG Jaeden Roberts ALA
7. DL DeMonte Capehart CLEM

Fuck that, we cannot keep drafting WRs, I do not agree with this at all, waste if pick IMO.

1. LT
2. DT Assuming Barmore is done
3. CB we need someone opposite Gonzalez
4. OC Andrews is done
5. Edge

 

[BigKen]

Fuck that, we cannot keep drafting WRs, I do not agree with this at all, waste if pick IMO.

Nothing is solid in the 2025 draft because it will all depend on who they can get in free agency. As it stands right now, OT is the weakest position followed by WR. That sticks out incredibly every week, watch the guys on the field, constantly drop passes that they should catch. Regardless of what any of us think, BB is not drafting any more and these guys can't go into 2025 with a franchise quarterback and the present bunch of what are labelled WRs. Before they even think about a DL, they have to get a RB.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Nothing is solid in the 2025 draft because it will all depend on who they can get in free agency. As it stands right now, OT is the weakest position followed by WR. That sticks out incredibly every week, watch the guys on the field, constantly drop passes that they should catch. Regardless of what any of us think, BB is not drafting any more and these guys can't go into 2025 with a franchise quarterback and the present bunch of what are labelled WRs. Before they even think about a DL, they have to get a RB.

We drafted WR heavily the past few years, I don't agree drafting two more makes any sense. Sooner or later we have to train the guys we have. We have rookie WRs and second year guys, and some vets, I would rather train them than keep drafting WRs

I feel the priority is LT then D Line we are 23rd in the league. If Barmore can return that helps but we have no info on that. White is a solid player but losing Judon shows, which I why I feel edge and CB are a greater need.

 

[BigKen]

If Barmore can return that helps but we have no info on that. White is a solid player but losing Judon shows, which I why I feel edge and CB are a greater need.

Again, we can't start drafting until we see what Wolfe and Mayo can do with $140M to spend in free agency. What if they somehow pick up a LT, RT, Edge, and CB? Then the priorities change to fill other holes.

You say "train" guys. They shouldn't need basic training. You can't train them how to concentrate. You can't train them to stop checking to see if there's a defender where they think they want run after catching the ball. The ball that slides through their hands, hits them in the chest and falls to the ground or bounces to that defender that they were looking at who does make the catch.

This group has a myriad of problems that training will not solve. Catching the ball properly is just one of them. There also appears to be some real attitude issues that Mayo is having no luck dealing with. Two of these guys can't seem to follow rules and make bed check. Can't train attitude.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Again, we can't start drafting until we see what Wolfe and Mayo can do with $140M to spend in free agency. What if they somehow pick up a LT, RT, Edge, and CB? Then the priorities change to fill other holes.

You say "train" guys. They shouldn't need basic training. You can't train them how to concentrate. You can't train them to stop checking to see if there's a defender where they think they want run after catching the ball. The ball that slides through their hands, hits them in the chest and falls to the ground or bounces to that defender that they were looking at who does make the catch.

This group has a myriad of problems that training will not solve. Catching the ball properly is just one of them. There also appears to be some real attitude issues that Mayo is having no luck dealing with. Two of these guys can't seem to follow rules and make bed check. Can't train attitude.

Yeah I say train them because that's what needs to happen. WR issues go all the way back8 to 10 years this is not new to this organization, so it's fair to question what the hell is going on, and who is responsible for training these young men up. Without looking I think we have drafted at least 8 WRs in the last three years. If we keep buying new stock instead of fixing the issue at hand that means we are missing out on other positions of need.

 

[BigKen]

Without looking I think we have drafted at least 8 WRs in the last three years.

It hasn't mattered whether it was a first rounder or sixth rounder, they were all unknowns and not in any mock draft prior to the draft. I know that the draft has not been kind to the Patriots for WRs, but they don't have never draft a known quantity. Even the media has had to go look up who they were and what they did, if anything. That's a problem. They've also passed on known quality WRs to draft LBs or DL who never made it out of camp. DK Metcalf, Kieon Coleman come to mind. We can argue all day about the past but we can't change it. They have to change something to prevent from drafting guys that are not up to NFL base lines.

 

[redseat]

Well the Patriots have the # 1 pick once again if I am not mistaken..

I know everyone wants Travis Hunter but I think they should stay away from him

 

[Southieinnc]

No matter what, if the Patriots hold on to the #1 pick, they will trade it to one of three teams. Cleveland, Las Vegas, NY Giants. All three will be looking for a QB and one will want Shedure Sanders COL. It will net them #3,#4 or #5 and either a 2026 first or a 2025 third. A third would give them 3 selections in the third in 2025.

I think that they would go as follows if they get a 1 and 3. Position with name to fill in.

1. OT Will Banks TX
2. WR Tre Harris Ole Miss
3. WR Nic Anderson OK
3. EDGE Patrick Payton FL ST
3. OT Blake Miller CLEM
4. RB Nicholas Singleton Penn ST
5. TE Tyler Warren Penn ST
6. CB Maxwell Hairston TENN
7. OG Jaeden Roberts ALA
7. DL DeMonte Capehart CLEM

For a #1 (a little premature) We could get more from a QB needy team. Maybe much more.

 

[molsaniceman]

Well the Patriots have the # 1 pick once again if I am not mistaken..

I know everyone wants Travis Hunter but I think they should stay away from him

for now
there are some crappy teams out there

 

[redseat]

for now
there are some crappy teams out there

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Oh DAMN!!! Saints losers of 7 straight!!

 

[YankeeRebel]

So question: As it stands now the Pats are positioned to get the number one pick. There are two FA LTs that would be a nice fit Cam Robinson and Garrett Bowles if the Pats acquire one of those two players what you feel is the best option with the number one overall pick?

I still feel trading out for additional picks this year and next is the best option. As I stated yesterday I don't feel like we need to draft WR yet again, and we can move down still pick up Edge and DT.

What say you all

 

[BigKen]

What say you all

Trading down is the best option..........if Wolfe can sign an experienced LT in FA.

Bowles would not sign an extension with Denver. Like most players, he'd like to see what everyone else thinks of him and is willing to dump in his lap.
With the money that the Patriots have and their piss poor coaching and playing, starting with a five year $125M offer might just get pen on paper.

Here are the top 10 available tackles. They should also be looking at RT.

Alaric Jackson should be in line for a significant extension if he stays in the Los Angeles Rams’ starting lineup next year. The former UDFA started 15 games for the Rams in 2023 before being assigned a second-round restricted free agent tender this offseason. Starting-caliber left tackles entering their age-27 campaign don’t grow on trees.

1) Alaric Jackson, Los Angeles Rams
2) Spencer Brown, Buffalo Bills
3) Garett Bolles, Denver Broncos
4) Tyron Smith, New York Jets
5) Ronnie Stanley, Baltimore Ravens
6) Jedrick Wills Jr., Cleveland Browns
7) Cam Robinson, Jacksonville Jaguars
8) Morgan Moses, New York Jets
9) Dan Moore Jr., Pittsburgh Steelers
10) Walker Little, Jacksonville Jaguars

They should also be able to woo at least one top WR with a big cash offer. Tee Higgins 4/$120M?

1) Tee Higgins, Cincinnati Bengals
2) Chris Godwin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
3) Stefon Diggs, Houston Texans
4) Amari Cooper, Cleveland Browns
5) Hollywood Brown, Kansas City Chiefs
6) Diontae Johnson, Carolina Panthers
7) Keenan Allen, Chicago Bears
8) Mike Williams, New York Jets
9) DeAndre Hopkins, Tennessee Titans
10) Darius Slayton, New York Giants

If signing two OT and One WR costs $80M per year, Wolfe will still have $59M to spend. He just can't do the BB scenario and wait until day three to start overpaying for crumbs (Jonnu Smith, Agholor, etc, etc, etc.)