2021 Patriots and the NFL Draft

[Southieinnc]

So whatever's been said. We have drafted a QB that has done nothing but win. He won under the brightest of lights.
Say what you will but if he is a bust, it will be a collective mistake by 2 of the best minds in football for over 30 yeats.
And they had all knowledge available on this young man.

NE Patriots faithful, let me introduce you to the next Patriots dynasty.....

 

[Carnzo]

Do Pat's draft a drunk? Two DUI's. Mac Jones.

And a "dad bod" I love it.

An as for a drunk, I resemble that remark.

 

[nefansince75]

And a "dad bod" I love it.

An as for a drunk, I resemble that remark.

Is there anyone here who doesn't? I'm mostly dry, but it still applies.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Did you all know Boobytrap spelled backward is Partyboob?

 

[nefansince75]

Did you all know Boobytrap spelled backward is Partyboob?

When it came to parties I was usually focused on a different body part but that might be tmi.

 

[YankeeRebel]

I mentioned in my mock yesterday the Pats should target Elijah Moore Slot Receiver Ole Miss. There was all sort of talk about the Pats working with the Falcons and Julio for Gilmore and Harry etc. BB has not issues working deals with non conference teams, Can you all see a scenario that would allow him to move up in round two to make that move?

Actually looking at it there are a few teams that took WRs or do not need WRs that are ahead of the Pats not just the Dirty Birds

 

[nefansince75]

I mentioned in my mock yesterday the Pats should target Elijah Moore Slot Receiver Ole Miss. There was all sort of talk about the Pats working with the Falcons and Julio for Gilmore and Harry etc. BB has not issues working deals with non conference teams, Can you all see a scenario that would allow him to move up in round two to make that move?

Simple answer: Yes.

HaHa, the real answer is no because of the way the question is phrased. I think some of us can see it, but I do not believe we ALL can see it.

 

[Yankee Traveler]

Did you all know Boobytrap spelled backward is Partyboob?

I do now.

 

[BigKen]

Patriots trade#46 and two 4th Rounders to move up to #38.

Patriots are on the clock.

 

[BigKen]

With the #38 pick the Patriots select......................

DT Christian Barmore

 

[BigKen]

Barmore is widely regarded as the best interior defensive lineman in the class, something McGinn and the anonymous scouts he quotes readily acknowledge. He’s still a young player, just 21 years old, and flashed some dominant moments as a pocket-collapsing presence for the Crimson Tide.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

The Vince Wilfork of the future?

 

[NWPATSFAN]

A quicker and younger version. Maybe the pick of the 2nd round? But after restocking in FA was this a position of need.

 

[cheerupcharlie]

Love this pick too! Good job Patriots.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

What does NE do in the 3rd?
WR?
S?
CB?
LB?

Who would you realistically like to see them pick?
CB Benjamin St-Juste, Minn if he is still available. Nice to bring in a tall CB with good speed.
WR I like Shi Smith from SC shifty after the catch. Could be a good replacement for JE11.
S Damar Hamlin, Pitt maybe a stretch at this point? Could possibly be had later? Good size, speed and run stop supporter.

Or I'm ok if BB goes with an OL? Can never have enough. Not sexy but has kept NE competative for 20 years taking OL early and often.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Barmore is widely regarded as the best interior defensive lineman in the class, something McGinn and the anonymous scouts he quotes readily acknowledge. He’s still a young player, just 21 years old, and flashed some dominant moments as a pocket-collapsing presence for the Crimson Tide.

Well was all spoke about the Pats rebuilding and it was widely agreed BB would be likely to build his defense first. Getting Judon was a big FA pick up to add Barmore was a great move. The Pats have not been able to get pressure up the middle I now feel they can get pressure up the middle and off the edge.

Great round 3 moves IMO

 

[YankeeRebel]

Damn Walter Football blasted the Mac Jones pick

 

[BigKen]

Damn Walter Football blasted the Mac Jones pick

You have to expect that. They had him going to the 49ers at #3.
A couple of "coaches" stated that Barmore pretty much sucked and will be a bust because he couldn't do well under a very disciplined coach.
Bad mouthing historically is a "Shit, I was way off on that one, I need to make the kid look worse than me."

 

[BigKen]

In the 3rd Round the Patriots took Ronnie Perkins LB/Edge Okla. I love this pick. He smoked some weed and got caught. Suddenly he's "average" after being called a definite first round pick. This kid has a Cummins Diesel for an internal engine and platys three downs.

Ronnie Perkins​

RONNIE PERKINS​

OKLAHOMA
EDGE

Prospect Info​

COLLEGE
Oklahoma
HOMETOWN
CLASS
St. Louis, MO
Junior

6' 2 1/2"
253 lbs
ARM -32 7/8"
HANDS - 9"

Perkins, a native of St. Louis, arrived in Norman in 2018 as a consensus blue-chip recruit on the defensive line. He wasted no time claiming a spot in the rotation along the defensive front during his freshman season and appeared in all 14 games, starting seven of them. He managed to lead the team in sacks that season with five, which says a lot about the quality of OU’s defense in ‘18. Perkins’ freshman campaign also offered him a chance to showcase his versatility by shifting from a hand-in-the-dirt defensive end to JACK outside linebacker late in the season.


A year later, Perkins solidified his future as a five-tech DE in the one-gap scheme installed by new defensive coordinator Alex Grinch. He tallied 13.5 tackles for loss and six sacks on the season, both of which ranked second on the team. In what seemed to be a theme throughout his college career, Perkins put together arguably his best performance of the season in a must-win game at Baylor that saw him ring up three sacks.

Unfortunately for Perkins, a positive drug test for marijuana late in the season meant he didn’t get the privilege of being on the field to get smashed by LSU in the College Football Playoff, OU’s final game of 2019. Moreover, failing the NCAA-administered test knocked Perkins out of the first half of the 2020 season, too. A promising effort to get his suspension reduced in ‘20 stalled out when he reportedly failed to meet the requirements to regain his eligibility.


Perhaps motivated by the possibility of declaring early for the draft, Perkins played superb football when he finally did get back on the field for OU’s final six games of the season. He notched 5.5 sacks and 10.5 tackles for loss in that stretch, which included stellar performances versus Oklahoma State, Iowa State and Florida. It’s not a stretch to say his progress played an instrumental part in elevating OU’s defense to one of the better units in the nation by the end of the year.

Pro Day Results


Perkins did receive an invitation to the modified NFL Scouting Combine, and he went through actual testing at OU’s pro day in March. He gave a solid performance, but far from spectacular.

Perkins ran the 40-yard dash in 4.71 seconds, which would compare favorably with the better performers at the EDGE position who participated in the NFL’s 2020 combine. His 25 reps in the bench press won’t blow scouts away. His broad jump (32 inches) and vertical leap (125 inches) would have put him around the middle of his peers at the ‘20 combine. Meanwhile, a shuttle drill time of 4.69 seconds doesn’t scream “physical freak.”

Analyst Lance Zierlein of NFL.com describes Perkins as a “very average athlete” who owes most of his production to his motor and knack for finding the ball. That seems like a fair evaluation.

Draft Projections

Despite the early buzz that Perkins was rocketing up draft boards, you won’t find many of the professional speculators who expect to see Perkins go in round one. Zierlein gave him a third-round grade, for instance. Daniel Jeremiah of the NFL Network seems fairly positive about Perkins, ranking him 44th among the top 150 prospects in this class. ESPN’s Todd McShay has Perkins at 38th overall, while his partner in auditory crime, Mel Kiper, ranks Perkins 40th on the ol’ Big Board and third among defensive ends.

Reading the tea leaves here, the odds that a team will pick Perkins on Thursday seem poor. More likely, he will get a call early-ish on Friday night from a team that takes the former OU standout with a selection in the second round.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Love the pics.
Jones falling to NE at 15 was a blessing. He should do well in our system.

Going DT and DE was all about value. These two graded out much higher. Almost couldn't allow them to slip by even though they weren't position of needs. But this makes NE front 7 formidable. Look for BB to send a lot more pressure then we're use to seeing. Should be exciting. But a little worrired about the back end. We may be fine this year depending on Gilmore and JCs attitudes.

So where does BB go next?

WR?
S?
CB?

We need another great late round pick or UDFA find by BB and this year will be a lot of fun.

As long as they can Cam.