2021 Patriots and the NFL Draft

[redseat]

Value should also mean $ to Kraft and BB... You get no name guys (because "value") no one shows up to watch them play.... Get guys like Surtain, Pitts, Waddle etc and money starts pouring in

 

[nefansince75]

Value should also mean $ to Kraft and BB... You get no name guys (because "value") no one shows up to watch them play.... Get guys like Surtain, Pitts, Waddle etc and money starts pouring in

Would you rather win with no-names or lose with brand-names? I realize they aren't mutually exclusive but the Pats have always taken actions based on a principle: wins move the needle more than any other action.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I'm going to hold out and hope BB surprises us. But this time he moves up in the draft and the player selected actually starts the season on the active roster not IR. That player also contributes.

Hell I'd give up all 10 picks to see that happen.

Seriously, get us a real starter and trade a bunch of picks away for future picks. The roster is full.

 

[redseat]

Would you rather win with no-names or lose with brand-names? I realize they aren't mutually exclusive but the Pats have always taken actions based on a principle: wins move the needle more than any other action.

Oh I know... That is there philosophy but sometimes "value" actually truly is dollars and sense

I just hope he doesn't trade out of 15 and go down and pick nobody's that "value" would work well on the team

 

[BigKen]

Seriously? Bolding and increasing the font on a word used more often around here than skill? It's like me saying to my kid "don't be surprised if you get a gift for Christmas".

Don't you mean, "Don't be surprised if you don't get a gift for Christmas"?

Take an Exlax. Seems things have already backed up this morning.

 

[BigKen]

Oh I know... That is there philosophy but sometimes "value" actually truly is dollars and sense

My point about 'value' is that he's always been picking in the late twenties or early thirties in the first round. When he's had an early pick, he's always gone defense and usually has hit the mark. It has been said, he has 'values' on certain players and they generally have had some kind of surgery or injury. He took a chance on Gronk after back surgery and nailed it. He saw value in Hernandez and it blew up in his face.

For once, he has a decent pick and there are a bunch of quality players in a difficult year to pick. This is where I'm nervous and could see him taking Caleb Farley who has 'Superstar" written all over him. Problem is that he's had the same back surgery as Gronk. Speed, cover corner, 6'2"/205. He's exactly the kind of player that BB has taken at 31 or 32.

If Kraft is making sure that all of the staff is involved, then common sense should prevail. problem is this...Considering the lack of playing, no combine, not allowed to have personal visits with players, can common sense be the right way to draft? Or is 2021 a "Shoot from the hip" year?

 

[nefansince75]

Don't you mean, "Don't be surprised if you don't get a gift for Christmas"?

Take an Exlax. Seems things have already backed up this morning.

No, That statement would be a shock. Telling my kid they will get "a gift" is absolutely of no value to them because it's an 100% known statement.

You post these things that everyone already know, then want to take a bow for being the smartest one here.

 

[redseat]

My point about 'value' is that he's always been picking in the late twenties or early thirties in the first round. When he's had an early pick, he's always gone defense and usually has hit the mark. It has been said, he has 'values' on certain players and they generally have had some kind of surgery or injury. He took a chance on Gronk after back surgery and nailed it. He saw value in Hernandez and it blew up in his face.

For once, he has a decent pick and there are a bunch of quality players in a difficult year to pick. This is where I'm nervous and could see him taking Caleb Farley who has 'Superstar" written all over him. Problem is that he's had the same back surgery as Gronk. Speed, cover corner, 6'2"/205. He's exactly the kind of player that BB has taken at 31 or 32.

If Kraft is making sure that all of the staff is involved, then common sense should prevail. problem is this...Considering the lack of playing, no combine, not allowed to have personal visits with players, can common sense be the right way to draft? Or is 2021 a "Shoot from the hip" year?

I wasn't directing my comment towards you just saying that it should be looked at in two different ways. Obviously it doesn't in Bill's mind but still. Also, I do think Kraft is somewhat putting his foot down in this years draft

 

[BigKen]

You post these things that everyone already know, then want to take a bow for being the smartest one here.

Like I said, take an Exlax.

You post is total bullshit. I certainly can't do anything about the way you interpret or feel.

Your the one who seems to take exception to everything anyone writes.

You have your opinions and they have theirs.

 

[nefansince75]

Like I said, take an Exlax.

You post is total bullshit. I certainly can't do anything about the way you interpret or feel.

Your the one who seems to take exception to everything anyone writes.

You have your opinions and they have theirs.

I think its time for me to leave this board for a while since nobody likes me...

 

[sharkymcwrath]

I think its time for me to leave this board for a while since nobody likes me...

I like you.

 

[nefansince75]

I like you.

Aw shucks, I'm blushing . Hopefully you recognize my green font as sarcasm.

 

[sharkymcwrath]

Aw shucks, I'm blushing . Hopefully you recognize my green font as sarcasm.

Oh shit! There's that green font again.

Maybe I need to stay away from this board until I start recognizing the green font as representing sarcasm.

 

[YankeeRebel]

 

[YankeeRebel]

My most recent mock above

 

[Carnzo]

I'm going out on a limb and say I have no clue what will happen.
Just hope for the best.

 

[sharkymcwrath]

I'm going out on a limb and say I have no clue what will happen.
Just hope for the best.

That's where I'm at too. Like, absolutely no idea.

 

[nefansince75]

I'm going out on a limb and say I have no clue what will happen.
Just hope for the best.

The only difference between you and anyone who thinks they have a clue is you are not in denial

 

[Yankee Traveler]

My most recent mock above

Yeah...uhm...Where is Jacob Harris?

 

[nefansince75]

My most recent mock above

If that happens I'd grade it that way too.