2019 Offseason Thread

[TurnUpTheHeat]

I really hope we don't trade for CP3.

On the surface seems like a bad idea.

Somethings up though for OKC to trade for him, when there were other options.

We’ll see soon enough.

 

[dtgold88]

oh God, if they got him theyd be whacking eachother off right now, but because he slipped through their fingers because of some guy they never heard of a month ago they are downplaying it.

Pretty much cements their mediocrity this year so i get it. Its July 11th and we know the Cavs and Heat will win the same amount of playoff series this year. LOL.

Last year I'd agee was likely we knew. This year? My guess, too, but think a better chance to at least win a series.

 

[shopson67]

View attachment 210234
This image is the epitome of douche bag

I said before there are two people that just by their looks you want to punch in the face / kick their ass:
Adam Silver
Justin Bieber

Well add Grayson Allen to that list

If you look quick, the Nike swoosh looks like a cig in Grayson's hands. Feeds the image even more, lol.

 

[dtgold88]

Didn't read

Then why comment?

Were you one of those who would call 900 polls and vote "no comment"?

 

[dtgold88]

Shaq
Kevin Love
Kyrie Irving
Half of Miamis teams when Lebron left...Mike Miller, James Jones, Dwayne Wade, Birdman
Want me to contiune?

A couple were trades. Miami players not exactly all star caliber (Wade, but well past prime).

look at me basing comment on post and not poster.

 

[dtgold88]

Irving and Love both resigned. Love was an unretricted free agent after year 1 so it was a gamble, but he stayed.
Shaq wasn't bad had a few good runs left when we had him.
Signing older lesser stars happens...See Jimmy Butthole

Fair point about Love, but Kyrie really had to sign. Despite all the movement, still rare a stud does not sign his second deal with his own team as a RFA.

Pretty sure Shaq was a trade.

 

[shopson67]

Expecting a team with Blake and DJ (as the 2nd best player) to make the finals or be final contenders is pretty stupid TBH

And holding something like that against Blake is pretty sad

DJ is third best behind CP3 and Blake. That 2011 team also had Billups, Bledsoe, Kaman, Caron Butler, Foye, Aminu, Baron Davis, Eric Gordon, Reggie Evans, etc. Obviously, a few of those were near the end and depth only, but this was not a barren squad. 2012 had Barnes, Nick Young, Kenyon Martin, Odom, Crawford, and Grant Hill. They were still trying hard to fill out the roster with vets. 2013 brings Dudley, Stephen Jackson, Jamison, Collison, Redick, and Bullock. Some of the players from previous years played all 3 years, or the later 2, etc.

The Clips loaded up those rosters as much as they could around those 3.

 

[dtgold88]

You traded for Love, you fucking twat.

And yes, Butler's regarded as a top 20 player. Love isn't.

Fabulous, but you said Butler is better than Love has ever been. Love was not considered top 20 in Minnesota?

 

[thunderc]

On the surface seems like a bad idea.

Somethings up though for OKC to trade for him, when there were other options.

We’ll see soon enough.

Main reason is they were doing Westbrook a solid.

 

[shopson67]

Stephen A hitting the nail on the head right now. The thunder never had a coach to make the talent play the way they should have.

That coach would have to crack into Westbrook's noggin. Not sure that's doable.

 

[thunderc]

Thunder playing it coy saying they are fine running with what they got now.

 

[dtgold88]

Tough to compare the 2 because they play different positions but Butler isn't nearly as injury prone so if you needed both positions that they play.....I wouldn't think the person that chose Butler made the wrong decision.....he plays very well on offense and defense.

I do think Butler is better now, but heatles saying he's better than Love ever was is off I think.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[shopson67]

one of the more interesting things with these future picks is the likely elimination of the 1 and done rule.

I have read articles that indicate many teams think that the 1 and done rule will be ended and that 2023 will be an effective "double draft".

It will be a year where you DONT want to be missing a pick. Effectively it will be 2 draft classes in one year.

The 6th pick is basically like the 3rd pick, and so on and so forth.

So, if your team is missing its 2023 pick, thats not good.

if your team has EXTRA 2023 picks, thats pretty damn valuable.

While potentially true, that also means you're going to have a lot of players pushed out of the draft that would normally get drafted. There will also be a bunch of 18 year olds either flaming out with their first teams or even going in the 2nd or undrafted, as they weren't really strong enough to go straight to the NBA. That is going to be one MESS of a draft to sort through...

 

[dtgold88]

SMH.

You said he was untradeable.....we all know.

Pretty silly to say anyone is untradeable....hell Mozgov seems to get moved every other week.

But the idea a guy with an expiring deal had to be attached to a 1st and only returned middling players does say something.

 

[shopson67]

CP3 wasn't there in 2011.

Traded to the Clips Dec 15, 2011.

 

[dtgold88]

It's the apotheosis of what LeBron started when he recruited the superteam in Miami

This is true......Cannot recall many who spurned max deals from their own team before Lebron did.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Main reason is they were doing Westbrook a solid.

Thunder playing it coy saying they are fine running with what they got now.

The intent to keep him would be way above and the definition of doing a solid.
3 years at that price, with a player whose proven to be a problem/headache with past players and coaches is a terrible idea with a team that is rebuilding.

 

[shopson67]

Yes, but your scouting is what you think about a player. Other teams don't tell you what they think. You are suggesting this guy must be some player not to include him in a potential deal for an elite player. If you love him that much you don't just hope he makes it to the teens.

Did Miami trade him for Westbrook? No, so OKC went a different direction. They valued Herro. No denying it now.

 

[Bart]

I put that man on ignore. It's bad enough when I get nagged at by my significant other. I don't need the same shit on a sports forum.

Only a big hairy snatch would put a poster on ignore.