2019 Offseason Thread

[TurnUpTheHeat]

You only had one job to do......






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[msgkings322]

This is true......Cannot recall many who spurned max deals from their own team before Lebron did.

Yep, he started the idea of not caring about max money if it meant playing with specific other stars to get a ring.

 

[dtgold88]

Of course not.

But also consider that Cleveland had the #1 pick and the rights to Wiggins. There was literally no other team out there that could check all these boxes for Love:

1) had the young assets to make the deal while still having enough left over to be a good team
2) were willing to part with those assets
3) was facing pressure to make the win now move

There weren’t many other viable options for Love. Both teams were highly incentivized to make this trade work, and Love wanted to out. He wanted to be just about anywhere but Minnesota.

But you ignore the idea Lebron was hardly ever here with room for a stud FA. Only time they had cap space with him when asked by potential FAs he would not tell them he would stay.

 

[msgkings322]

Knew about Malone but figured needed something a bit more current.

I thought if Lebron cared about winning as #1 priority last offseason he'd either stay or go to Philly.

I think LeBron cared about winning but only in LA, and was clearly willing to punt a year if they missed out on FAs year one.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

No chance they get Love if they pick 2? Or 3? No way at that time Minny would have taken Parker or Embiid?

I agree.

 

[dtgold88]

That was my point....LOL.

You can LOL all you want but in Minnesota he was as good there as Butler is now.

Curry considered a 1-way player. Has he also never been as good as Butler? Before you take the usual road and say I'm comparing Curry and Love I am not. I am saying one not need to be a 2-way player to be considered on Butler's level.

 

[dtgold88]

Philly FAs: best ones have probably been Moses Malone, Elton Brand, and just this summer Al Horford

Holy shit...can't believe I forgot Horford.

 

[dtgold88]

I think LeBron cared about winning but only in LA, and was clearly willing to punt a year if they missed out on FAs year one.

Clearly

 

[Heatles84]

Only a big hairy snatch would put a poster on ignore.

Thank you for your insight. You can go suck dtgold's dick now.

 

[dtgold88]

Can't really buy that, they were playing at home to close it out, that's motivation by itself.

Right.....And what was the reason for losing Games 3, 6 and 7 without Green.

 

[dtgold88]

Thank you for your insight. You can go suck dtgold's dick now.

Still mentioning me while ignoring me.

#noselfcontrol

 

[dtgold88]

What's hard to understand (actually not by reading many of your posts) is that you somehow think the same number equates to the same success, when one team had 17 more chances to succeed, but didn't.

If we are talking about both teams from 1988-89 to present (to compare apples/apples) how does one team have 17 more chances?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Thank you for your insight. You can go suck dtgold's dick now.

And cheat on Wiggy?

 

[dtgold88]

But let's not consider, IN THAT SAME TIME FRAME, the Heat started as expansion franchise where it is standard to struggle for awhile so what you are trying to convince yourself of, is pretty fucking stupid.

OK...so maybe the Cavs had a 3 year head start whoop-de-hell. Neither has had much success without its star.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

If we are talking about both teams from 1988-89 to present (to compare apples/apples) how does one team have 17 more chances?

I never was only focusing on that specific time frame.
I was comparing franchise history.

Do you really NEED to do this shit every fucking day?

 

[dtgold88]

No.
More like I usually don't always feel the need to go back and read pages I missed.
I only usually go back and look and alerts and base comments on poster and not post.

FIFY

 

[dtgold88]

I never was only focusing on that specific time frame.
I was comparing franchise history.

Do you really NEED to do this shit every fucking day?

OK, but pretty clear I was not talking about seasons where there was no Heat as I did not include series wins from those times.

If you mean correct your mistakes and explain when you are off base, yeah, it's tiring for me. Agreed.

 

[Black Adam]

Thank you for your insight. You can go suck dtgold's dick now.

by the same logic, wouldn't a poster be a "big , hairy snatch" for CALLING someone a "big, hairy snatch" from the safety of his computer...?

#askingforafriend

 

[dtgold88]

Did Miami trade him for Westbrook? No, so OKC went a different direction. They valued Herro. No denying it now.

They didn't trade anyone wor Westbrook. Guess they value entire roster as much?

You get it's possible they offered Herro and Miami wanted more?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

OK, but pretty clear I was not talking about seasons where there was no Heat as I did not include series wins from those times.

If you mean correct your mistakes and explain when you are off base, yeah, it's tiring for me. Agreed.

The topic was comparing success of franchises, then, turned into how many Heat series wins without Wade vs Cavs series wins without LeBron.
The answer might be 3 to both, but the Cavs played 17 more seasons, therefore their % is much worse.

Let me guess.
You aren't married.