2019 NBA Lottery And Draft

[dtgold88]

Missed a lot...guessing we at least know it's not rigged, right?

Who am I kidding. Conspiracy Guy will conspiracy.

 

[ericd7633]

Much better at what? Scoring/shooting, sure.

Ball's been below average thus far. I'd take the prospect of what Garland/White could be over what Ball could be based on his 2 years in the league.

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah, what about the Lakers??????????? Once again the NBA helps Lebron. Total fucking bs

Yep....I nailed it.

 

[dtgold88]

Well....

that fucking sucked.

No doubt...I get they want to get rid of tanking, but really what can teams in our market do to get a megastar?

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Reason #1 why he will be looking to get out of LA is the fact, he didn’t even make the playoffs this past year.

Reason #2 he isn’t young anymore and only has a few years left to chase a title and that is all that LeBron is worried about — see jumping ship from Cleveland to Miami, back to Cleveland and now to LA.

Reason #3 the coach is gone, Magic Johnson is gone and LA has no direction on where they are going. They have a hodge podge of players — none of them who fit the mold of what LeBron needs to succeed.

Reason #4 the big FA class seems to be rumored going everywhere but to the Lakers. So who knows if LA is able to sign a player, though I’ve heard rumors of Kyrie to LA, but unless LA could dump Ball on another team — it’s make no sense.

And I don’t know where ‘butthurt’ came from — I am just pointing out facts. If LAL was a contender in the West — James wouldn’t want to go anywhere. If they are unable to get one of the top FA’s to sign with them — James will be demanding a trade ASAP. He won’t be wasting the last couple years missing the playoffs or being fodder for the top teams in the West. No chance.

If you call them facts there must be some proof of it.

How about a direct quote for starters?

 

[shopson67]

Where did you read that? That would mean that trades couldn't happen until free agency since the trade deadline for the 2018-2019 season was in April.

NBA Offseason Trade Restrictions

League site doesn't show an official end of season date, just a beginning of season date, which would indicate that the season ends officially on June 30th and the new season opens on July 1st, the first day of free agency.

 

[Shanemansj13]

No doubt...I get they want to get rid of tanking, but really what can teams in our market do to get a megastar?

Draft well and hope to get lucky. All 3 of GS's picks weren't in the top 5 (dray, curry and klay). The Cavs could get the best player at 5 when it is all said and done, not likely, but you never know.

I mean they got Sexton at 8. He had a damn good rookie year.

 

[shopson67]

No doubt...I get they want to get rid of tanking, but really what can teams in our market do to get a megastar?

Get lucky in the draft. I think they may still play with the percentages a bit if we get this much movement every year. Owners could push the issue. The jump from 25% to 14% was pretty severe.

 

[dtgold88]

Draft well and hope to get lucky. All 3 of GS's picks weren't in the top 5 (dray, curry and klay). The Cavs could get the best player at 5 when it is all said and done, not likely, but you never know.

I mean they got Sexton at 8. He had a damn good rookie year.

It's definitely possible but takes more luck than skill. GS needed a team to take 2 PGs before Curry went.

 

[Black Adam]

Missed a lot...guessing we at least know it's not rigged, right?

Who am I kidding. Conspiracy Guy will conspiracy.

oh, a couple popped up here and there...

 

[shopson67]

Ball's been below average thus far. I'd take the prospect of what Garland/White could be over what Ball could be based on his 2 years in the league.

He's certainly not below average in rebounding/passing/defense.

 

[The Q]

NBA Offseason Trade Restrictions

League site doesn't show an official end of season date, just a beginning of season date, which would indicate that the season ends officially on June 30th and the new season opens on July 1st, the first day of free agency.

That’s why all those trades on draft night are listed as “proposed” trades.

 

[shopson67]

Draft well and hope to get lucky. All 3 of GS's picks weren't in the top 5 (dray, curry and klay). The Cavs could get the best player at 5 when it is all said and done, not likely, but you never know.

I mean they got Sexton at 8. He had a damn good rookie year.

Best player may be a stretch. Very valuable player, sure. We are talking about the Zion draft after all.

 

[The Q]

It's definitely possible but takes more luck than skill. GS needed a team to take 2 PGs before Curry went.

It always take luck to find those guys.

Kawhi was projecred consistently To go top 7ish and dropped last even the analytics heavy rockets, which no one saw coming.

Paul pierce was mocked consistently at 3 and fell to 10.

Same draft rashads Lewis was invited to the green room and didn’t even go round 1, which is nuts.

 

[Shanemansj13]

It's definitely possible but takes more luck than skill. GS needed a team to take 2 PGs before Curry went.

Yeah well part of drafting is lucky. Most of the time you aren't going to get the pick right, in any sport. I mean Klay was at 11. It takes skill to scout players but unless they are a sure #1 destined to be a star, gotta have a little luck.

If the Cavs make the right pick at 5 they can get an All-Star caliber player. There are gems/underrated players in every draft, almost every one, it's just about finding them, especially at 5. Some drafts are just better than others.

Players not in top 5 or at 5 in recent drafts
2018 draft - Sexton at 8, SGA at 11
2017 draft - Mitchell at 13 (AS caliber), Kuzma at 27, Derrick White at 29
2016 draft - Hield at 6, Murray at 7, LeVert at 20
2015 draft - Booker at 13
2014 draft - Randle at 7 (he is becoming a nice player)
2013 draft - McCollum at 10, Giannis at 15 (star)
2012 draft - Lillard at 6 (star),
2011 draft - Kemba at 9, Klay at 11, Kawhi at 15 (star), Vucevic at 16, Tobias Harris at 19, Butler at 30
2010 draft - Cousins at 5, Hayward at 9, PG at 10 (star)

 

[Shanemansj13]

Best player may be a stretch. Very valuable player, sure. We are talking about the Zion draft after all.

Yeah we wont know until we see them on the court, like I said not likely, but it's possible. A guy like Kawhi developed and became the best player in a loaded 2011 draft and he was at 15. Obviously all drafts are different but you really just never know.

I will say Deandre Hunter reminds me a lot of Kawhi Leonard.

 

[lebron23james]

No doubt...I get they want to get rid of tanking, but really what can teams in our market do to get a megastar?

The NBA is doing this to help prop up the larger markets. Smaller markets already have the disadvantage to sign the mega stars and now they have less of a chance to build through the draft. I see why they did it tbh

 

[shopson67]

Yeah we wont know until we see them on the court, like I said not likely, but it's possible. A guy like Kawhi developed and became the best player in a loaded 2011 draft and he was at 15. Obviously all drafts are different but you really just never know.

I will say Deandre Hunter reminds me a lot of Kawhi Leonard.

Yep, have heard that comparison a few times. Hunter seems a little bigger to me, but they are listed at almost identical height/weight.

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah well part of drafting is lucky. Most of the time you aren't going to get the pick right, in any sport. I mean Klay was at 11. It takes skill to scout players but unless they are a sure #1 destined to be a star, gotta have a little luck.

If the Cavs make the right pick at 5 they can get an All-Star caliber player. There are gems/underrated players in every draft, almost every one, it's just about finding them, especially at 5. Some drafts are just better than others.

Players not in top 5 or at 5 in recent drafts
2018 draft - Sexton at 8, SGA at 11
2017 draft - Mitchell at 13 (AS caliber), Kuzma at 27, Derrick White at 29
2016 draft - Hield at 6, Murray at 7, LeVert at 20
2015 draft - Booker at 13
2014 draft - Randle at 7 (he is becoming a nice player)
2013 draft - McCollum at 10, Giannis at 15 (star)
2012 draft - Lillard at 6 (star),
2011 draft - Kemba at 9, Klay at 11, Kawhi at 15 (star), Vucevic at 16, Tobias Harris at 19, Butler at 30
2010 draft - Cousins at 5, Hayward at 9, PG at 10 (star)

All the guys you mentioned, I think only Lillard is capable of being the #1 guy on a title team. A few others maybe if you had 2 guys like them.

 

[Shanemansj13]

All the guys you mentioned, I think only Lillard is capable of being the #1 guy on a title team. A few others maybe if you had 2 guys like them.

Kawhi and Giannis are both #1's on great teams. The point is there are still AS caliber players past that top 5 in every draft, it's just about finding them. Klay is still a huge part of the Warriors dynasty, you need those type of players on your team regardless.