2017 NBA Offseason Thread

[DJ Fieri]

Lonzo over Melo? #NBArank enters the top 75

The disrespect is real.

Ball 63rd before playing a game.

Melo? 64th.

They had Danny fucing Green over him too.....ha ha ha.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Bleacher Report‏Verified account @BleacherReport 9h9 hours ago
Brandon Ingram has grown two inches and is now 6’11, per @LakersReporter http://ble.ac/2y2h8LI

 

[DJ Fieri]

I'm bringing all the great off-season news you crave and deserve.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Is everybody in off-season hibernation?

Yes

 

[Black Adam]

Yes

preseason starts soon, though...

 

[DJ Fieri]

Josh Childress and the Nuggets agreed to a deal.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Josh Childress and the Nuggets agreed to a deal.

Talk about the life of a vagabond NBA career.

 

[DJ Fieri]

"Since being the sixth overall pick by the Hawks in the 2009 NBA Draft, Childress, 34, has bounced from Atlanta to Greece, back to the NBA with the Suns, Nets and Pelicans before playing in Australia and Japan.

In four NBA stops, he averaged 9.1 points and 4.7 rebounds while being paid some $38 million."

 

[shopson67]

Talk about the life of a vagabond NBA career.

Bringing that fro back to the NBA!

 

[bksballer89]

 

[Heatles84]

Man's going to make $42 mil over 4, not bad. Good pay day for someone who was a 2nd round pick a few years ago.

 

[bksballer89]

Man's going to make $42 mil over 4, not bad. Good pay day for someone who was a 2nd round pick a few years ago.

Yea and he may be our starting sf this year. Not a bad deal for either side.

 

[Black Adam]

Yea and he may be our starting sf this year. Not a bad deal for either side.

bet Wiggy says different...

 

[DJ Fieri]

Is Chef Curry the new fucking Peyton Manning? Seeing him all over the TV in these commercials.

 

[Heatles84]

Is Chef Curry the new fucking Peyton Manning? Seeing him all over the TV in these commercials.

Dude's capitalizing on the spotlight he's gotten over the last 3 years. Can't blame him.

 

[bksballer89]

Sources: NBA to vote on draft lottery reform

 

[trojanfan12]

Sources: NBA to vote on draft lottery reform

Just did a quick read. I don't know. The lottery proposal seems like the league is just going further down the lottery rabbit hole. I don't see it doing much about tanking.

It seems like the just want to keep the lottery because it has become a tv show for them.

Ok with what they want to do re: players resting. It'll be interesting to see if teams just get better and pretending guys are out for injuries. Probably start seeing more guys listed as "day to day."

 

[Sparhawk]

Just did a quick read. I don't know. The lottery proposal seems like the league is just going further down the lottery rabbit hole. I don't see it doing much about tanking.

It seems like the just want to keep the lottery because it has become a tv show for them.

Tanking wouldn't have much of an advantage.
Let's look at the numbers.

In the current system, the worst team is at 25%, 2nd worst at 19.9%, and 3rd worst at 15.6%. If you're the third worst team, you would increase your chances of getting the #1 pick by roughly 27.5% by losing games to move to the #2 spot. (19.9-15.6)/15.6

In the new system, the bottom three teams all have a 14% shot at the #1 pick. And then it should drop roughly 1% for each team below.

In the current system, the gap between 1 and 5 is 16.2% and the gap between 1 and 10 is 23.9%.
With the reform system, the gap between 1 and 5 might be just 2% and the gap between 1 and 10 might be 7%.

The current system offers incentives to tank. The fans understand that.
The reform system, not so much.
Yes, you could tank to gain a 1 or 2% advantage, but you also risk losing fans and revenue, because fans will know that tanking in the reform system doesn't offer that much of a statistical advantage compared to the current one.

 

[trojanfan12]

Tanking wouldn't have much of an advantage.
Let's look at the numbers.

In the current system, the worst team is at 25%, 2nd worst at 19.9%, and 3rd worst at 15.6%. If you're the third worst team, you would increase your chances of getting the #1 pick by roughly 27.5% by losing games to move to the #2 spot. (19.9-15.6)/15.6

In the new system, the bottom three teams all have a 14% shot at the #1 pick. And then it should drop roughly 1% for each team below.

In the current system, the gap between 1 and 5 is 16.2% and the gap between 1 and 10 is 23.9%.
With the reform system, the gap between 1 and 5 might be just 2% and the gap between 1 and 10 might be 7%.

The current system offers incentives to tank. The fans understand that.
The reform system, not so much.
Yes, you could tank to gain a 1 or 2% advantage, but you also risk losing fans and revenue, because fans will know that tanking in the reform system doesn't offer that much of a statistical advantage compared to the current one.

True and hopefully you're right. I just know that the lottery was supposed to fix or at least curtail tanking and it didn't. We'll have to see if teams find a loophole.

 

[tlance]

True and hopefully you're right. I just know that the lottery was supposed to fix or at least curtail tanking and it didn't. We'll have to see if teams find a loophole.

The problem with tanking reform is that short of making lottery odds equal for every team in the NBA, someone will always be incentivized to tank. The worse the odds get for the worst teams, the harder it will be for bad teams to get good again.

They are over thinking. Tanking isn't bad for the league. The NBA just needs to do away with the lottery and stop trying so hard to fix a problem that isn't that big a deal. With no lottery, there would have been little reason for anybody to tank last year (aside from the Lakers). Nets were far and away the worst team. The difference between 3 and 5 usually isn't worth tanking for.