2017 NBA Offseason Thread

[DJ Fieri]

Bill Simmons‏Verified account @BillSimmons 4m4 minutes ago
Good litmus test for LeBron going to Lakers in a year - if LA throws KCP a lifeboat 1 year 20-22m deal so Klutch can save face with KCP.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Bill Simmons‏Verified account @BillSimmons 4m4 minutes ago
Good litmus test for LeBron going to Lakers in a year - if LA throws KCP a lifeboat 1 year 20-22m deal so Klutch can save face with KCP.

He must not be aware 17 million is about what we can offer....

 

[trojanfan12]

Bill Simmons‏Verified account @BillSimmons 4m4 minutes ago
Good litmus test for LeBron going to Lakers in a year - if LA throws KCP a lifeboat 1 year 20-22m deal so Klutch can save face with KCP.

Lol. Was just going to post that the Lakers have cap room.

 

[DJ Fieri]

KCP can't shoot at all though.....yes, I know he's a really good defender.

 

[bksballer89]

Lol. Was just going to post that the Lakers have cap room.

I can't see him doing that though if it is only a 1 year deal. Pretty sure the Nets will throw Otto Porter money at him for 3 or 4 years.

 

[bksballer89]

KCP can't shoot at all though.....yes, I know he's a really good defender.

I wouldn't say he can't shoot at all. He made 153 triples 2 of the last 3 years. He doesn't shoot it at a great % but he shot the 3 ball at 34 & 35% in the 2 of the last 3 years so saying he can't shoot is a pretty crazy statement.

 

[trojanfan12]

I can't see him doing that though if it is only a 1 year deal. Pretty sure the Nets will throw Otto Porter money at him for 3 or 4 years.

Probably. If that happens, good for him. In the meantime, if I'm the Lakers, I'm at least checking on his interest.

 

[trojanfan12]

KCP can't shoot at all though.....yes, I know he's a really good defender.

That's fine. On a 1 year deal to help the defense, I'd have no problem with it. Plus, a shot can be improved upon.

 

[bksballer89]

Probably. If that happens, good for him. In the meantime, if I'm the Lakers, I'm at least checking on his interest.

Yeah for sure. You never know so why the hell not?

 

[DJ Fieri]

That's fine. On a 1 year deal to help the defense, I'd have no problem with it. Plus, a shot can be improved upon.

True but he's been in the league 4 seasons and still sucks shooting wise...I guess a 1 year deal would be okay.

 

[CitySushi]

I can't see him doing that though if it is only a 1 year deal. Pretty sure the Nets will throw Otto Porter money at him for 3 or 4 years.

This. If I'm KCP there's only two options I'm going to look at:

1) Long term, big money deal, literally anywhere.

2) 1 Year deal, with guaranteed starting role and big minutes incoming.

If I'm KCP, I'm going to try to leverage every team with cap space to get the biggest offer he can from Brooklyn. I honestly though he would be getting closer to 18M per year somewhere around 60-70M this off-season, but I have a feeling he'll be topping out at around 50-55.

 

[bksballer89]

This. If I'm KCP there's only two options I'm going to look at:

1) Long term, big money deal, literally anywhere.

2) 1 Year deal, with guaranteed starting role and big minutes incoming.

If I'm KCP, I'm going to try to leverage every team with cap space to get the biggest offer he can from Brooklyn. I honestly though he would be getting closer to 18M this off-season, but I have a feeling he'll be topping out at around 50-55.

Guys get overpaid so much. I honestly don't see anything special about him. At most I'm offering 15 mil yearly to him. He is a role player at best. He was a part of that disgusting 2013 draft.

 

[CitySushi]

True but he's been in the league 4 seasons and still sucks shooting wise...I guess a 1 year deal would be okay.

He has decent form, so there's every reason to believe he can improve on his shooting. Defensively he's already a beast, imo. I think any team he goes to he'll need to work on shot selection and balance. A lot of times his shot looks a bit rushed or his feet aren't completely set. At least that's what my limited viewing of him tells me.

 

[shopson67]

True but he's been in the league 4 seasons and still sucks shooting wise...I guess a 1 year deal would be okay.

He's about 2-3% behind Devin Booker in both overall and 3 pt %s but can defend. If he is willing to take a one year deal, Lakers should be on that quickly.

 

[trojanfan12]

True but he's been in the league 4 seasons and still sucks shooting wise...I guess a 1 year deal would be okay.

At this point, it's getting down to someone like him or Rondo. My guess is, that we are more likely to get Rondo. I agree with @bksballer89 that KCP will likely get offered a multi-year deal and take that over the Lakers 1 year deal.

If they do get him, you bring him in, get Keefe working on his shot with him and appreciate the defense he brings. If things go well, maybe he gets invited back. If not, no big deal, it's not as if you were counting on him to get you to the playoffs.

 

[bksballer89]

He has decent form, so there's every reason to believe he can improve on his shooting. Defensively he's already a beast, imo. I think any team he goes to he'll need to work on shot selection and balance. A lot of times his shot looks a bit rushed or his feet aren't completely set. At least that's what my limited viewing of him tells me.

Yeah this guy DJ is out here acting like he is Andre Roberson or something. The guy isn't shooting 25% from 3. 35% from 3 is solid and he has done that 2 of the last 3 years. As you stated shot selection seems to be an issue. If you're shooting 35% from 3 then no way in hell should your overall shooting % be under 40. I think it should be in the low 40's which tells me he is shooting either too many 3's or most of his shots are contested.

 

[CitySushi]

Guys get overpaid so much. I honestly don't see anything special about him. At most I'm offering 15 mil yearly to him. He is a role player at best. He was a part of that disgusting 2013 draft.

15M sounds about right for 3 and D players these days which is what KCP's peak will be.

That THJ contract is a joke, but Knicks gonna Knicks.

I think this off season for the most part we've seen a ton of restraint from teams. There really hasn't been any contract out there that I've been like "HOLY SHIT WTF". Even last year I said that with Tyler Johnson, who's looked like one of the few to be worth the money he signed for. I laughed at HB and his max, but he's earned it so far.

Last year the Blazers went crazy and regret it. Knicks signed Noah. Hawks signed Bazemore. I have no idea wtf Orlando was doing when they signed Biyombo when they had Vucevic.

This off-season I really haven't seen anything crazy unless I missed one or two here or there. I've been kind of distracted at home with a new baby.

 

[shopson67]

I can't see him doing that though if it is only a 1 year deal. Pretty sure the Nets will throw Otto Porter money at him for 3 or 4 years.

Nets are pretty much capped out with that Porter offer. They would have to wait and see if it isn't matched first.

 

[bksballer89]

15M sounds about right for 3 and D players these days which is what KCP's peak will be.

That THJ contract is a joke, but Knicks gonna Knicks.

I think this off season for the most part we've seen a ton of restraint from teams. There really hasn't been any contract out there that I've been like "HOLY SHIT WTF". Even last year I said that with Tyler Johnson, who's looked like one of the few to be worth the money he signed for. I laughed at HB and his max, but he's earned it so far.

Last year the Blazers went crazy and regret it. Knicks signed Noah. Hawks signed Bazemore. I have no idea wtf Orlando was doing when they signed Biyombo when they had Vucevic.

This off-season I really haven't seen anything crazy unless I missed one or two here or there. I've been kind of distracted at home with a new baby.

Yeah there's been nothing real crazy. I think the Nets overpaid for Otto Porter which will probably hurt the Wizards in the long run but outside of that nothing too crazy.

 

[Sparhawk]

Guys get overpaid so much. I honestly don't see anything special about him. At most I'm offering 15 mil yearly to him. He is a role player at best. He was a part of that disgusting 2013 draft.

Best take so far.

Below-average to average 3P shooter (career 33.4% on 1435 3PA).

Thought to be an elite defender, but maybe not :
NBA Real Plus-Minus - National Basketball Association - ESPN

Let somebody else pay for him....