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guess that means the kid's definitely gonna have to prove he can take it...
I think he can.

I have been on the Lonzo hype train longer than most.

He's gonna take his lumps like every other rookie.

Westbrook, Cp3, Wall, Kyrie , Curry are elite.

They torch each other and everyone else.

So, no shame in them beating him.

But, he's gonna have a good rookie year and will be a stud in short order.
 

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I see the Lakers between 25-29 wins unless they make a few more moves tbh

I disagree. That's literally zero improvement. The young guys will benefit from the experience of last season and having had a full year in Luke's system. Also, Lopez is a big improvement over Mozgov. That alone should get them to 30 wins.
 

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Mid 30ish if Randle can take a step.

Brook gets buckets.

But, everyone else needs to elevate their play too.

I just don't see any improvement in their defense. Ball is not known for his defense and neither is Lopez. I think a lot needs to go right (with the current roster) for them to win 30+IMO. Also think a guy like Ingram needs to make a big jump from where he was last year. I believe they finished last in DEF EFF. Need to be top 20 at least if they want to win 30+ games
 

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I also read that Swaggy's defense was much better last year under Walton. Can you confirm?

I think Swaggy fits the Warriors because Ron Adams has been getting guys like Ian Clark and Leandro Barbosa to be servicable defensive players. If Swaggy can become a halfway decent defender, at 6'7, that's going to be huge in the Warriors being able to continue their defensive strategies and switching everything.

The biggest thing to me about the two signings is the Warriors got their bench depth and shooters, being 6'7 and 6'9" respectively. Lots of flexibility with lineups.
It was.

Dray is not gonna let Swag get to out of hand.

You have a good culture and he can guard and hit the long ball.

#SwagSplashPad
 

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I disagree. That's literally zero improvement. The young guys will benefit from the experience of last season and having had a full year in Luke's system. Also, Lopez is a big improvement over Mozgov. That alone should get them to 30 wins.

26 to 29 wins is an improvement though.
 

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I disagree. That's literally zero improvement. The young guys will benefit from the experience of last season and having had a full year in Luke's system. Also, Lopez is a big improvement over Mozgov. That alone should get them to 30 wins.

If Lopez can stay healthy, he's going to thrive in Walton's system. The biggest thing for me will be if Ingram and Randle can take that next step. I think Lonzo will have a really strong rookie year. Clarkson is what he is.
 

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I just don't see any improvement in their defense. Ball is not known for his defense and neither is Lopez. I think a lot needs to go right (with the current roster) for them to win 30+IMO. Also think a guy like Ingram needs to make a big jump from where he was last year. I believe they finished last in DEF EFF. Need to be top 20 at least if they want to win 30+ games
You might be right.

The West is gonna be brutal.

Maybe getting a Tony Allen type, on a 1 yr deal, might help a bit in the backcourt.
 

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You might be right.

The West is gonna be brutal.

Maybe getting a Tony Allen type, on a 1 yr deal, might help a bit in the backcourt.

Yeah that's another thing. The West got tougher. I mean I guess I can see low 30's if a lot of things go well. Like 33 or 34 but I think they're closer to 29-31
 

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If Lopez can stay healthy, he's going to thrive in Walton's system. The biggest thing for me will be if Ingram and Randle can take that next step. I think Lonzo will have a really strong rookie year. Clarkson is what he is.

Agree. I do agree with @bksballer89 that the defense needs to improve. Randle has improved every season, so that trend should continue, especially if the work I've heard about him putting in the off-season is real. Apparently, Ingram has been spending most of the off-season working as well.

If Lonzo has a solid rookie year, the Lakers should be able to break 30 wins (which I think is necessary to truly attract top FA's). I like Clarkson, I think he has a good future as a Lou Williams type.
 

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I disagree. That's literally zero improvement. The young guys will benefit from the experience of last season and having had a full year in Luke's system. Also, Lopez is a big improvement over Mozgov. That alone should get them to 30 wins.
The fact that Teams like Denver, Minny and Sacto got better and the Clippers, Utah got worse, makes it tough to evaluate until we see how guys fit together on the court.
 

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Agree. I do agree with @bksballer89 that the defense needs to improve. Randle has improved every season, so that trend should continue, especially if the work I've heard about him putting in the off-season is real. Apparently, Ingram has been spending most of the off-season working as well.

If Lonzo has a solid rookie year, the Lakers should be able to break 30 wins (which I think is necessary to truly attract top FA's). I like Clarkson, I think he has a good future as a Lou Williams type.

Is Clarkson staying though? Thought he was on the trade block
 

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You might be right.

The West is gonna be brutal.

Maybe getting a Tony Allen type, on a 1 yr deal, might help a bit in the backcourt.

i can see that point. still i think L.A.'s better than last season. how much better of course will have to be played out...
 
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