2014 Offseason Plans Thread Pt2

[romeo212000]

agree but part of me thinks he will be the next JD signing

Maybe, but again I don't see him signing on to dh

 

[jta4437]

FWIW he has played 7 games at DH each of the last couple of seasons. I'm sure it was just rest days, but still

Andrus DH'd 10 games last year, not really a relevant point

 

[terpsfball09]

At least with morales he evens out all the righties in a row a little bit. I think at this point I'd rather have him. I like nelly, but Morales is just a good hitter. Go for the cheaper option and make a trade. Screw tanaka and whoever lands him. I've read as many scouting reports as I can about the guy and I'm still not impressed. Average fastball with no plane but a great splitter. Succeeded in japan because the style of hitting is different. The hitters in the mlb are gonna lift his flat fastball in the air and muscle it out of the ball park. They wont try to slap it on the ground something

 

[DT LUNA]

He wasnt quite that bad, but I get what you mean.

If they are looking at Cruz to sign, it has to be at DH and Cruz knows that I'm sure and he won't get his 75 mil. If he wants to play he probably won't sign. Morales looks like the better choice to me.

 

[romeo212000]

At least with morales he evens out all the righties in a row a little bit. I think at this point I'd rather have him. I like nelly, but Morales is just a good hitter. Go for the cheaper option and make a trade. Screw tanaka and whoever lands him. I've read as many scouting reports as I can about the guy and I'm still not impressed. Average fastball with no plane but a great splitter. Succeeded in japan because the style of hitting is different. The hitters in the mlb are gonna lift his flat fastball in the air and muscle it out of the ball park. They wont try to slap it on the ground something

Texas scouts may be seeing the same things if they're not intent on going after him.

 

[terpsfball09]

I just don't really understand what the hype is about the guy besides his numbers. His scouting report screams mistake. The guy won a ton of ball games sure, but there is an entirely different philosophy to hitting in japan. Darvish is different. He's so tall that he can afford to have that long stride and still have tilt. Plus he throws it freakin 95, not 90.

 

[romeo212000]

I just don't really understand what the hype is about the guy besides his numbers. His scouting report screams mistake. The guy won a ton of ball games sure, but there is an entirely different philosophy to hitting in japan. Darvish is different. He's so tall that he can afford to have that long stride and still have tilt. Plus he throws it freakin 95, not 90.

Some of the hype may be coming from Darvish's success. Nobody wants to miss out on the next Darvish, thus the hype.

 

[jamesx122]

I just don't really understand what the hype is about the guy besides his numbers. His scouting report screams mistake. The guy won a ton of ball games sure, but there is an entirely different philosophy to hitting in japan. Darvish is different. He's so tall that he can afford to have that long stride and still have tilt. Plus he throws it freakin 95, not 90.

Darvish also gets downward plane on his fastball. From what I've read about Tanaka his fastball will need to be located well otherwise MLB hitters will send it flying, he has a very good splitter and other off-speed pitches so I don't think he's going to be a bust. I just don't think he's going to be near Darvish's level, he'll probably be a good #3 pitcher posting numbers a bit worse than Hiroki Kuroda's in my opinion.

I'd like him on our team to fill out the rotation, but not at the price he's going to command. Also his declining strikeout numbers are a cause for concern.

 

[jamesx122]

Some of the hype may be coming from Darvish's success. Nobody wants to miss out on the next Darvish, thus the hype.

That might be it, but they're different pitchers when you get past the fact that they both played in the NPB and posted good numbers. Just like how smart baseball fans had to point out that Darvish was different than all the other pitchers that came to the MLB to the dumb fans who just said "But he's Japanese so he's just like the others!"

 

[romeo212000]

Darvish also gets downward plane on his fastball. From what I've read about Tanaka his fastball will need to be located well otherwise MLB hitters will send it flying, he has a very good splitter and other off-speed pitches so I don't think he's going to be a bust. I just don't think he's going to be near Darvish's level, he'll probably be a good #3 pitcher posting numbers a bit worse than Hiroki Kuroda's in my opinion.

I'd like him on our team to fill out the rotation, but not at the price he's going to command. Also his declining strikeout numbers are a cause for concern.

I'd say for the money he'll command, we're better off filling out the back end of our rotation in other ways.

 

[romeo212000]

That might be it, but they're different pitchers when you get past the fact that they both played in the NPB and posted good numbers. Just like how smart baseball fans had to point out that Darvish was different than all the other pitchers that came to the MLB to the dumb fans who just said "But he's Japanese so he's just like the others!"

Yeah, no more dice-k comparisons finally

 

[terpsfball09]

I think he'll be a number 3 as well. They wanna give this guy 120 million? fuckin serious? I'd rather have signed ricky nolasco or MG or hiroki kuroda. That's absurd. Thats 20 million less than what zack greinke got, and he was one of the best pitchers in baseball last year. Someone must be batshit crazy

 

[jta4437]

He'll get more that Darvish contract wise, just b/c Darvish's contract was such a steal... and the lower posting fee plays a part in that

 

[romeo212000]

Terps, any word on what our original offer was versus what we settled on? How much did we give?

 

[jta4437]

I just don't really understand what the hype is about the guy besides his numbers. His scouting report screams mistake. The guy won a ton of ball games sure, but there is an entirely different philosophy to hitting in japan. Darvish is different. He's so tall that he can afford to have that long stride and still have tilt. Plus he throws it freakin 95, not 90.

Couple things, he pitches a bit faster than 90, more like 92-93 and hitting 96 from everything I've read, but the issue remains, he has a flat fastball, but he doesn't rely on it either

He's also not that small, actually a pretty good size at 6-2

Other than that, the Kuroda and other comparisons I agree with wholeheartedly

 

[ESPN Refugee]

Damn I had to catch up on the 23 pages I've missed since earlier in the day.

 

[terpsfball09]

Terps, any word on what our original offer was versus what we settled on? How much did we give?

Original was 6 for 114. So a tad bit lower AAV for an extra year.

 

[ESPN Refugee]

Cespedes isn't nearly as good as done seem to think he is.

And it's not like they got him on the cheap. Still took 36 million big ones if I remember correctly.

 

[ESPN Refugee]

I saw that. He still can't take padmy's dick out of his ass.

Forgive me for my lack of interweb lingo but what is padmy?

 

[jta4437]

Forgive me for my lack of interweb lingo but what is padmy?

Past A Diving Michael Young:ballchain: