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Impressive skill playersFinally, FIU's Jonathan Cyprien hasn't gotten much attention to this point, but scouts will be going back to the tape after his performance in Mobile. Cyprien is an aggressive safety who shows good burst and will fly downhill to deliver blows in run support.

I keep thinking he'd be a good replacement for Goldson.
 

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Per his twitter, #MississippiState CB Johnthan Banks was not 100% for the Senior Bowl. He didn't simply blow it off like some others.
 

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Am told USC pushing their pro-day back 2+ weeks to give Matt Barkley more time to recuperate...more tomorrow..
 

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Postseason shuffling has begun
New faces and more film study have NFL prospects rising, falling
Originally Published: January 30, 2013
By Todd McShay | Scouts Inc.

Bowl season is over, the deadline for eligible non-seniors to declare for the 2013 NFL draft has passed, and three college all-star games have come and gone. All of this has led to plenty of shuffling in my latest ranking of the top 32 overall prospects.

Four players debut this week, and other big names are rising and falling quickly.

A pair of offensive tackles are on the rise -- one all the way into the top five -- after strong showings at the Senior Bowl, where an under-the-radar cornerback also flashed and helped get himself into the top 32. Finally, a raw but gifted offensive lineman also makes the list for the first time.

Notre Dame ILB Manti Te'o has taken a tumble, although not for the reasons you might expect, while another inside linebacker is creating buzz and is now inside the top 32.

Finally, USC QB Matt Barkley has finally fallen off the list after he had an up-and-down senior season and his college career ended prematurely because of a shoulder injury.

Here is a look at the entire list, with draft-eligible non-seniors noted with an asterisk:
 

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1. Star Lotulelei DT
6-3 320
Analysis: Lotulelei is the most complete defensive lineman in the class in terms of physical tools. He dominates interior offensive linemen with his blend of quickness and power. He shows strong hands, nimble feet and the ability to discard blockers quickly, and he has impressive lateral range. Lotulelei needs some polish as a pass-rusher, but his natural gifts are clearly a cut above.
Previously: 1

2. Luke Joeckel*OT
6-5¾ 306
Analysis: Joeckel fared well against the likes of Alabama and LSU this season. His balance and ability to recover in pass protection stand out, and he takes good angles and is able to get to the second level in the run game. Previously: 4

3. Chance Warmack OG
6-2 325
Analysis: Warmack is a big, strong, nasty lineman with good smarts and athleticism. He shows awareness, is an easy mover in pass protection and has power as a run-blocker. The best guard I've evaluated in the past decade, Warmack is the rare interior lineman worthy of a top-10 overall pick. Previously: 3

4. Jarvis Jones*OLB
6-2 242
Analysis: Jones has been a steady performer on a defense loaded with NFL prospects. He is a good overall athlete and top-notch pass-rusher, has impressive range in pass coverage and against the run, and can line up all over the defensive formation. He's also a playmaker who closes on quarterbacks and ball carriers and looks to separate them from the ball. Durability concerns will remain a concern, but Jones is still a great player.
Previously: 6

5. Eric Fisher OT
6-7 297
Analysis: Fisher stood out at the Senior Bowl with has impressive length, nimble feet and balance in pass protection. He shows good footwork and the ability to hit moving targets when pulling, and appears to have the power to create movement at the point of attack. He could anchor more effectively at times, but he clearly has the skill set to thrive at left tackle in the NFL.
Previously: 20

6. Damontre Moore*DE
6-4 248
Analysis: He is a versatile prospect who can play outside linebacker in a 3-4, right or left end in a 4-3 and even move inside to rush the passer from the interior. Moore is quick and fluid as a pass-rusher, is able to hold up against the run and plays hard.
Previously: 2

7. Kenny Vaccaro S
6-0½ 210
Analysis: The more tape I watch, the more I'm blown away by Vaccaro's athleticism and fluidity. He is tough against the run, but he has rare movement skills for a safety and can effectively function as a third cornerback when necessary. With today's NFL offenses spreading the field so often with multiple-receiver sets, that versatility is a valuable trait.
Previously: 16

8. Barkevious Mingo* DE
6-5 240
Analysis: Mingo's production (8.5 TFL, 4.5 sacks) did not live up to expectations in 2012, but he was still disruptive at times. His long frame, elite first step and outstanding speed for his size make him a major weapon off the edge and give him plenty of upside. He also has great range and closing burst against the run.
Previously: 5

9. Dee Milliner* CB
6-0¾ 197
Analysis: Milliner's instincts, recognition skills and discipline stand out, and he is reliable in run support. He's not elite in man coverage but is excellent in zone, and his good top-end speed and short-area quickness help make him the clear No. 1 corner on the board.
Previously: 11

10. Bjoern Werner* DE
6-4 255
Analysis: Werner burst onto the scene early in the season with improved pass-rush skills that complement his ability to set the edge against the run. His production tailed off some late in the year, but Werner's quickness and strong hands are impressive, and he can convert speed to power when rushing the passer.
Previously: 8

11. Sylvester Williams DT
6-2 320
Analysis: Williams' standout showing at the Senior Bowl backed up a strong regular season, when he played faster than ever after shedding weight and getting fully healthy. He has the power to press blockers into the backfield, pop at the point of attack as a tackler, and instincts and quick hands to get off blocks.
Previously: 10

12. Dion Jordan DE
6-6⅛ 239
Analysis: Jordan dealt with a nagging shoulder injury late in the season, but he is long and athletic and has explosive upper-body power despite his lean frame. He can rush the passer from a two- or three-point stance, holds up in space and has the versatility to play multiple roles along the front seven.
Previously: 12

13. Sharrif Floyd* DT
6-3 298
Analysis: Floyd lined up at end in 2011, but truly thrived after moving inside to tackle in 2012. He moves well and is comfortable in tight spaces, and Floyd has made a huge improvement in terms of upper-body power and how he uses it to jar blockers. He is able to locate the ball, shed blockers and flow to the ball as quickly as any defensive tackle in this year's class. Previously: 24

14. Alec Ogletree* ILB
6-3 237
Analysis: Ogletree is a raw prospect in terms of instincts, but he is a freakish athlete who chases plays from sideline to sideline and shows good potential as a pass-rusher. He needs to get more stout at the point of attack, though, and there are some character flags.
Previously: 15

15. Jonathan Cooper OG
6-3 320
Analysis: Cooper's quickness, mobility, explosive power, good feet and balance all jump out on film. He is the best blocker in the class in space, shows awareness in pass protection and plays with an edge. He's a good fit in a zone-blocking scheme, and Cooper is making a solid case as an early first-round pick.
Previously: 14

16. Lane Johnson OT
6-6 305
Analysis: Johnson is shooting up the board after a strong week at the Senior Bowl and more in-depth film study. His experience on the offensive line is limited -- he started his career as a junior college quarterback, then played tight end and defensive end early in his career at OU -- but Johnson has the athleticism and movement to be a good starting left tackle in the NFL. He needs to get stronger and improve his hand placement, but Johnson's game tape shows a first-round talent.
Previously: NR
 

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17. Manti Te'o ILB
6-1 248
Analysis: Te'o sliding down the board has nothing to do with the recent off-field issues he has dealt with and everything to do with questions arising from film study and other inside linebackers moving up. We need to further evaluate his movement skills before solidifying his grade.
Previously: 7

18. Sheldon Richardson DT
6-2⅞ 290
Analysis: Richardson was clearly the best player on a bad Missouri defense, and he played hard despite additional attention from offense and his team's overall struggles. Richardson can penetrate with a quick first step and has excellent straight-line speed, good range and power as a bull rusher.
Previously: 21

19. Johnathan Jenkins DT
6-4⅛ 363
Analysis: A massive two-gap nose tackle with a good combination of size, strength and short-area quickness to control the inside and occasionally contribute as a pass-rusher. Jenkins' range is limited, but he is an asset as an interior plugger.
Previously: 17

20. Blidi Wreh-Wilson CB
6-0⅜ 189
Analysis: I'm impressed with Wreh-Wilson's overall skill set after additional film work and a strong week at the Senior Bowl. He plays with balance and body control in man coverage, and he supports the run effectively.
Previously: NR

21. Geno Smith QB
6-2¾ 208
Analysis: Smith's stock took a hit late in the season because of inconsistency and some poor decisions. When he's at his best, though, Smith's confidence, footwork and mechanics all stand out, and that's what puts him atop this year's quarterback class.
Previously: 23

22. Kawann Short DT
6-3⅛ 325
Analysis: Short showed more consistency, better effort and impressive production in 2012. He displayed explosiveness and the ability to penetrate and disrupt along the interior, giving himself a chance to be in the first-round mix.
Previously: 27

23. Ezekiel Ansah DE
6-6 273
Analysis: Ansah is a raw prospect, and his rare combination of size, speed and athleticism failed to show up during Senior Bowl practices. He flashed his skills during the game, though, and his hand use and discipline improved over the course of the season. He also showed the versatility to line up at nose tackle, end and outside linebacker in BYU's 3-4 scheme.
Previously: 19

24. Johnathan Hankins* DT
6-3 335
Analysis: Hankins shows the size and strength to occupy multiple blockers against the run and doesn't back down at the point of attack, and he has a top-20 skill set. He's falling, though, because the demand for a two-gap run-stuffer is simply not as great as it used to be in the NFL.
Previously: 9

25. Cordarrelle Patterson*WR
6-3 205
Analysis: Patterson, who has played one season with the Volunteers after arriving from junior college, has scored touchdowns four ways: receiving, rushing, punt return and kickoff return. He averaged 27.7 yards on kickoff returns and had a school-record 1,858 all-purpose yards this season. He's raw as a route-runner and in terms of reading coverages, but his physical skills are undeniable.
Previously: 30

26. Sam Montgomery* DE
6-4 245
Analysis: Montgomery is not as athletic as his teammate Mingo, but his power as a pass-rusher stands out, and he holds the point well against the run.
Previously: 16

27. Keenan Allen* WR
6-3 206
Analysis: Allen was consistently productive during the regular season thanks to a good combination of size and speed, excellent hands and solid body control. He lacks the elite speed to run past NFL defenders, but his size and strength allow him to win one-on-one battles down the field.
Previously: 28

28. Johnthan Banks CB
6-2⅛ 185
Analysis: A tall corner with good length, Banks has quick feet and is at his best in press coverage. He flashes good ball skills and some punt-return ability, and he is active and willing in run support.
Previously: 27

29. Kyle Long OG
6-6⅞ 311
Analysis: Long is inexperienced, but his physical tools are as good as those of any other lineman in the class. He has good length, moves well, shows some inline power and has played both guard and tackle. He needs to improve his awareness and instincts, but that should come with more reps. Previously: NR

30. Kevin Minter* ILB
6-2 244
Analysis: He could get off blocks more quickly at times, but Minter is a tackling machine who's capable of playing from sideline to sideline. His overall talent level is that of a first-rounder, but he might slide into the second with the likes of Ogletree and Te'o ranking just ahead of him at inside linebacker. Previously: NR

31. Zach Ertz* TE
6-6 249
Analysis: Ertz showed off his ball skills and body control in the Cardinal's upset win over Oregon, coming down with a jump ball in the back of the end zone for the game-tying touchdown late in regulation. He's a solid route-runner who can create mismatches with his size and separates from coverage, shows speed to stretch the seam and is an effective wall-off blocker.
Previously: 29

32. Justin Hunter* WR
6-4 205
Analysis: Hunter's smooth routes and body control on tape earned him a top-10 grade going into the season, but his production didn't match his potential and his ball skills were inconsistent. He appears to be fully recovered from a torn ACL suffered in 2011 and his physical tools are impressive, but he needs to be more consistent.
Previously: 25

Out of the rankings: Auburn DE Corey Lemonier, Notre Dame TE Tyler Eifert, USC QB Matt Barkley, Michigan OT Taylor Lewan (returned to school)

Todd McShay is the director of college scouting for Scouts Inc. He has been evaluating prospects for the NFL draft since 1998.

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Where are all the quarterbacks? Mel Kiper has zero of them inside the top 25
Originally Published: January 30, 2013
By Mel Kiper Jr. | ESPN Insider

Nick Saban loses top corner Dee Milliner, but a team drafting in the top 10 will benefit.

I did make a few moves after Senior Bowl week, but I also think a lot of what took place in Mobile confirmed some things we knew. A guy like Eric Fisher turned heads, but he was already a top-10 player for me. The next big phase is the NFL combine, and this is a year where the onus is really on some offensive players to show well there. The draft class is lacking skill-position talent at the top.

Remember, the scouting perspective below will remain similar week to week unless my evaluation of a player really shifts, but I'll note recent observations and opinions as the draft process continues. Please also see my rankings of the top 5 draft prospects at every position. Juniors and draft-eligible sophomores are noted with an asterisk.
 

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1 Jarvis Jones *
AGE: 23 DOB: 10/13/89 HT: 6-3 WT: 241
POS: OLB Tkl 85 Sack 14.5 Int 1

Jones should do well at the combine, displaying a wide range of skills. His performance and positional value reflect this ranking, because he combines explosiveness, discipline, relentless pass-rushing ability and great intangibles and effort. He profiles as a 3-4 OLB, but he's also strong against the run and can really cover.
LAST WEEK: 1 |


2 Damontre Moore *
AGE: 20 DOB: 9/11/92 HT: 6-4 WT: 248
POS: DE Tkl 80 Sack 12.5 Int 0

Moore can really rush the passer. He's an athlete, but the production really jumps out. Consistent performer. Adjusted well to playing as a defensive end in a 4-3 scheme. Excels as a pass-rusher, able to dip hips, turn the corner and use quickness and length to beat tackles.
LAST WEEK: 2 |

3 Luke Joeckel *
AGE: 21 DOB: 11/6/91 HT: 6-6 WT: 310
POS: OT GP 12 GS 12

Joeckel has the ability to take away good pass-rushers. There's very little to not like. He has a ton of experience, starting on the left since his freshman season. He can really drive people in the run game, even if he gets questions on how nasty he is as a finisher. The feeling now is he's a safe bet to be the first OT taken.
LAST WEEK: 3 |

4 Star Lotulelei
AGE: 23 DOB: 12/20/89 HT: 6-4 WT: 325
POS: DT Tkl 42 Sack 5.0 Int 0

You can't block him with one guy. He's ready to be an impact NFL DT. He absorbs so much blocking help and frees up others, but he's not just a clogger, because he can show off a great burst and the ability to destroy plays. Has a great sense for disrupting the run game. Quick off the ball with great upper- and lower-body strength. Coaches rave about him.
LAST WEEK: 4 |

5 Chance Warmack
AGE: 21 DOB: 9/14/91 HT: 6-3 WT: 320
POS: OG GP 14 GS 14

Warmack was the best O-lineman at Alabama, which says a lot considering how stacked that O-line was. He simply takes defenders where he wants them to go, utilizing great power and quickness at his size. A dominant run-blocker, Warmack isn't just massive, but also moves well, with initial power in tight spaces and the ability to seek out LBs on the second level.
LAST WEEK: 5 |

6 Dee Milliner *
AGE: 21 DOB: 9/14/91 HT: 6-1 WT: 199
POS: CB Tkl 54 Sack 1.5 Int 2
Evaluators have really gotten on board. Milliner is a quick study; questions on his cover skills have largely been put to rest. He got better and better as the season progressed. Milliner's raw football skills are exceptional. His physical prowess is a step above that of other corners. He hits receivers and isn't shy in run support, but with that, he is fluid, reads the game well and can turn and run with wideouts. High floor.
LAST WEEK: 13 |

7 Bjoern Werner *
AGE: 22 DOB: 9/30/90 HT: 6-4 WT: 255
POS: DE Tkl 42 Sack 13.0 Int 0

Indy is a big opportunity for him. Has great awareness, both as a pass-rusher and as a guy who defends the pass with his hands in the air. Strong, but can really dip to turn the corner, showing great balance. Werner finds a way to disrupt. Reads the game really well, eyes up, which isn't easy to do when you play so fast.
LAST WEEK: 12 |

8 Alec Ogletree *
AGE: 21 DOB: 9/25/91 HT: 6-3 WT: 232
POS: LB Tkl 111 Sack 3.0 Int 1

Will end up ahead of Te'o based on versatility and a high ceiling. Led Georgia in tackles by 13 even though he missed four games. Ogletree has great instincts and flies to the ball all over the field. Able to attack gaps against the run, stretches wide and moves well in coverage. Reads passers well. Draft process could be interesting.
LAST WEEK: 7 |

9 Eric Fisher
AGE: 22 DOB: 1/5/91 HT: 6-8 WT: 305
POS: OT GP 12 GS 12

Shined in Senior Bowl evaluations. He uses that length really well. He gets in a wide base, uses his arms to absorb pass-rushers and simply doesn't allow guys to get around him often. He often can make it look easy in the MAC but also looked great when Central Michigan faced top competition; not a newcomer for scouts.
LAST WEEK: 9 |

10 Jonathan Cooper
AGE: 23 DOB: 1/9/90 HT: 6-3 WT: 302
POS: G GP 12 GS 12

It's getting hard to find real flaws with these top guards. Williams has started since his redshirt freshman season, doesn't miss blocks, hits moving targets and has a great punch. Cooper is powerful and quick for his size and dictates matchups. Moves extremely well, particularly in tight spaces, allowing him to beat defenders to spots, move them to a side and get downfield.
LAST WEEK: 8 |

11 Barkevious Mingo *
AGE: 22 DOB: 10/4/90 HT: 6-5 WT: 242
POS: DE Tkl 33 Sack 4.0 Int 0

Not ready to drop him until the chorus gets too loud. Mingo is so gifted athletically that he misses some "football skills" coaches want but still gets by. He has survived without taking on a lot of blocks, for instance. Leverage was an issue all season, and there's a little boom-or-bust feel with him right now. Uses length and a great first step to turn the corner. High ceiling.
LAST WEEK: 11 |

12 Manti Te'o
AGE: 22 DOB: 1/26/91 HT: 6-2 WT: 255
POS: LB Tkl 113 Sack 1.5 Int 7

More of a sense now that Te'o is certain to drop some on positional value, a bigger issue than anything to do with the hoax. He has exceptional football instincts, a ton of experience and can both attack the backfield to make stops as well as get to the edges. Was second nationally in INTs, an impressive mark for a LB.
LAST WEEK: 6 |

13 Sheldon Richardson *
AGE: 21 HT: 6-4 WT: 295
POS: DT Tkl 75 Sack 4.0 Int 0

A good one in a deep class at the position. Great awareness and highly versatile, he nearly led Mizzou in tackles as an interior lineman, which would've been pretty remarkable. Love his effort level and potential to fit in any scheme. He's got great burst, uses his hands well and gets off blocks quickly. He's a penetrator who plays physically and piles up tackles. Locates well.
LAST WEEK: 10 |
 

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14 Lane Johnson
AGE: 22 DOB: 5/8/90 HT: 6-7 WT: 303
POS: OT GP 13 GS 11

Steadily rising. He has really long arms, and can absorb rushers. He's pretty technically sound with his feet given a relative lack of experience on the O-line, and he plays relaxed as a pass-blocker. In terms of natural skills, he grades high, but he'll pick up some tricks as he gains more reps against better talent.
LAST WEEK: 18 |

15 Cordarrelle Patterson *
AGE: 21 DOB: 3/17/91 HT: 6-3 WT: 205
POS: WR Rec 46 Yds 778 Avg 16.9 TD 5

Carrying the flag for skill-position players. Combine will be huge for him. Patterson could be the top WR available on draft day, but must perform well in workouts because of a small sample size against top competition. Great size and leaping ability, strong hands, with explosiveness as a runner with the ball in his hands. Can go up and get it.
LAST WEEK: 14 |

16 Sharrif Floyd *
AGE: 20 DOB: 5/28/92 HT: 6-3 WT: 303
POS: DT Tkl 41 Sack 1.0 Int 0

Guys really do get better over a season, and Floyd is a case. Improved all year after a positional change. He started slowly after switching back from DT, but he still led the Gators' D in TFL, so he created problems for offenses. A star coming out of high school, Floyd has quickness for his size, a powerful lower half and strong hands.
LAST WEEK: 22 |

17 Kenny Vaccaro
AGE: 21 DOB: 2/15/91 HT: 6-1 WT: 218
POS: S Tkl 96 Sack 0 Int 2

A good bet right now to be the first safety drafted. Vaccaro played well behind a struggling defense. Adept in coverage and against the run, he has the size to attack the line of scrimmage like an extra linebacker but can line up in coverage inside or out wide and hold his own. Makes good reads and big plays.
LAST WEEK: 21 |

18 Tyler Eifert *
AGE: 22 DOB: 9/8/90 HT: 6-6 WT: 251
POS: TE Rec 50 Yds 685 Avg 13.7 TD 4

Was a decent bet to be the first TE off the board when he declared, but he's being pushed now. Has pass-catching skills of a natural receiver and can be split out. Eifert is a former WR, catches the ball with ease and can stretch the seams, but he's not an exceptional blocker. Top TE in the class heading into the draft process.
LAST WEEK: 15 |

19 Dion Jordan
AGE: 22 DOB: 3/5/90 HT: 6-7 WT: 243
POS: DE Tkl 44 Sack 5.0 Int 0

Didn't participate at the Senior Bowl because of a shoulder injury, and that could nibble at his grade a bit. There's some projection left if you see Jordan as a guy who should bulk up and move to 4-3 DE, but I think he's pretty good where he is. He went to Oregon with the possibility of playing either offense (TE) or defense (DE), but has emerged as an athletic, long pass-rusher.
LAST WEEK: 16 |

20 Zach Ertz *
AGE: 22 DOB: 11/10/90 HT: 6-5 WT: 245
POS: TE Rec 69 Yds 898 Avg 13.0 TD 6

The more you watch, the more you like Ertz. Can really stretch the field up the seam, but has shown a really good ability to work the sidelines. He's a hands catcher; he goes out to get the ball, keeping defenders at bay. A willing blocker. Could be the second tight end taken if the draft were tomorrow, and might push Eifert.
LAST WEEK: 17 |

21 Kevin Minter *
AGE: 22 DOB: 12/3/90 HT: 6-2 WT: 245
POS: LB Tkl 130 Sack 4.0 Int 1

A tackling machine, Minter plays like Les Miles would pull him off the field if he didn't get to the ball first. He has great instincts, diagnoses well and attacks the line of scrimmage to stop the run. Offensive linemen have a tough time lining him up -- he slips blocks and makes plays.
LAST WEEK: 23 |

22 Johnathan Hankins *
AGE: 21 HT: 6-3 WT: 335
POS: DT Tkl 55 Sack 1.0 Int 0

One likely first-rounder I thought could have come back and raised his value, but he'll stay in the first. Just 4.0 TFL in 2012 will lead to questions about his explosiveness and ability to penetrate, and Hankins isn't much of a pass-rusher. What he can do is eat up blockers, flow well down the line and and free up everyone around him.
LAST WEEK: 22 |

23 John Jenkins
AGE: 23 DOB: 7/11/89 HT: 6-3 WT: 358
POS: DT Tkl 50 Sack 1.0 Int 0
People are surprised when they realize how big Jenkins is, because he moves pretty well. He's steady in terms of finding ways to impact the game because he's either eating up blocks or overwhelming a blocker one-on-one. He opens up space for LBs to attack and can occasionally push the pocket himself, even against double-teams.
LAST WEEK: 20 |

24 Ezekiel Ansah
AGE: 23 DOB: 5/29/89 HT: 6-6 WT: 272
POS: DE Tkl 62 Sack 4.5 Int 1

A raw player with a track background, he got better and better this season. His draft value could be defined by whether teams think he can help immediately. He needs a lot of coaching, but has physical gifts that can't be coached. A potentially dynamic 4-3 DE pass-rusher, and maybe even a five-tech.
LAST WEEK: 24 |

25 Sylvester Williams
AGE: 24 DOB: 11/21/88 HT: 6-3WT: 315
POS: DT Tkl 42 Sack 6.0 Int 0

Great, great week in Mobile. Really quick off the ball, Williams often looks like he knows the snap count, and the burst is significant. The TFL pile up because of it. He has a lot of natural gifts; really quick at this size, he has good feet, a strong punch to get defenders off-balance and great energy. Will chase down plays.
LAST WEEK: NR |


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Hankins dropping down the ranks....

HA!

He'd be a steal at that spot IMO. Ansah though would be too tempting to pass up on. He's the player we need to groom behind Justin for a year or two. Add 10 more pounds to him and he'd be an absolute monster.
 

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He'd be a steal at that spot IMO. Ansah though would be too tempting to pass up on. He's the player we need to groom behind Justin for a year or two. Add 10 more pounds to him and he'd be an absolute monster.

they deleted my post? really?

Idk, I was just never sold on Hankins and its primarily due to him being from OSU... that sounds bad but I do not believe in OSU defenders...

Ansah is such a NYG pick... lol... for real. You think Ansah can hold down a 34 DE spot for 3 downs?
 

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they deleted my post? really?

Idk, I was just never sold on Hankins and its primarily due to him being from OSU... that sounds bad but I do not believe in OSU defenders...

Ansah is such a NYG pick... lol... for real. You think Ansah can hold down a 34 DE spot for 3 downs?

Hell yeah. He has played NT this year for BYU in multiple games. It's one thing to play it just to fill a body in there, but from what I saw and read, he played that position very well for them. In other games he would stand up and play as a rush lb. He is that strong that coaches put faith in him to play nose for them in a lot of their games. He was very stout playing that position. Furthermore, he is athletic enough to develop as a LB if need be, but I'd much prefer to develop him as a 5technique end instead. That's a far bigger need at the moment in compare to what we want from the other OLB position opposite Aldon.
 

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He'd be a steal at that spot IMO.

Hankins might be 2nd on my overall wish list this year. At this point, Warmack is 1 & Hankins is 2 (this could easily change though). I think he's a better prospet than Star Lotulelei. Plus who wants to spell that name over & over?

Did you know Hankins is 2 years younger than Lotulelei? I didn't even know that until after I typed my opinion above. The real baby of the draft is Moore at age 21 (if memory serves).
 

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Hankins might be 2nd on my overall wish list this year. At this point, Warmack is 1 & Hankins is 2 (this could easily change though). I think he's a better prospet than Star Lotulelei. Plus who wants to spell that name over & over?

Did you know Hankins is 2 years younger than Lotulelei? I didn't even know that until after I typed my opinion above. The real baby of the draft is Moore at age 21 (if memory serves).

Hankins would fill a probable need too. He's the type of nt that Fangio prefers, a nt that can not only clog the lane, one that can also get pressure on the qb.

We can only hope that he falls, or that a move is made if he falls far enough.
 

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So ya'll are saying, I should root for the buckeye?

Unfortunately, yes! at least make an exception for him. He's really a very good player.
 
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