2012 College Football / 2013 NFL Draft

[uncfan103]

Wow I really couldn't tell he was that big. I thought he was a small guy running hard. Now I see why he isn't afraid to put his head down and try to run over people. For a man weighing 200lbs he has pretty agility. With all that said, I wouldn't draft him no earlier than the fourth round. Hasn't done enough in his career to convince me. What are your guys take on Chris Thompson of FSU? He should be a very late round pick that could be a good change of pace guy in the league. A poor man's Deangelo Williams when running off tackle.

His injuries are a major concern, but he is talented.

 

[clyde_carbon]

Wow I really couldn't tell he was that big. I thought he was a small guy running hard. Now I see why he isn't afraid to put his head down and try to run over people. For a man weighing 200lbs he has pretty agility. With all that said, I wouldn't draft him no earlier than the fourth round. Hasn't done enough in his career to convince me. What are your guys take on Chris Thompson of FSU? He should be a very late round pick that could be a good change of pace guy in the league. A poor man's Deangelo Williams when running off tackle.

Depends on how he works out in the off season. He's had two pretty significant injuries back to back, and he's not a big RB to being with.

 

[uncfan103]

Depends on how he works out in the off season. He's had two pretty significant injuries back to back, and he's not a big RB to being with.

Yeah, the more i think about it I don't see him getting drafted because i doubt there is no way he is healthy before the draft, let alone the combine.

 

[clyde_carbon]

Yeah, the more i think about it I don't see him getting drafted because i doubt there is no way he is healthy before the draft, let alone the combine.

Yeah, it's a shame. He was showing a nice comeback before his second injury. Good kid, too.

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Just to show how far I am from CBS' rankings, here's my quick top-10:

1. Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas (27)
2. Jarvis Jones, LB, Georgia (5)
3. Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M (14)
4. Geno Smith, QB, WVU (1)
5. Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama (13)
6. Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon St. (51)
7. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah (3)
8. Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee (21)
9. Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri (38)
10. Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall (93)

 

[CalamityX11]

Hunter in your top 10? not biting on that lack of production eh?

 

[BINGO]

Hunter in your top 10? not biting on that lack of production eh?

I'm scared of Hunter and the hype he had been receiving; and I predicted that he'll be draft in the mid to late 20s. And it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he ended up in the second round entirely (highly unlikely but it not's utterly impossible). I like his teammate Patterson much better than Hunter.

My top 5 WRs:
1.) Cordarelle Patterson
2.) Keenan Allen
3.) Tavon Austin
4.) Marques Wilson
5.) Justin Hunter

 

[clyde_carbon]

Hunter in your top 10? not biting on that lack of production eh?

Aaron Dobson is in my top-10, and Hunter is the one you question?

 

[Ray_Dogg]

The Vols are hitting the softer part of the schedule. Hunter will be putting up numbers from here on out. You gotta realize he isn't back to pre-injury form yet. Given the current complexion of our offense Patterson is my choice. Elite YAC. If we were a deep passing offense than I'd op for Hunter.

 

[Ray_Dogg]

Report: WR Wilson has left the Cougars

According to one report from Scout.com, junior WR Marquess Wilson has cleaned out his locker and quit the Washington State football team.
The school publicly stated that Wilson is merely suspended, but this reports cites two sources close to the team. The junior apparently left Sunday's practice during a "hell-ish" conditioning event. Wilson appears to have his sights set on the NFL, but his lack of consistency hurts.
Source: Scout.com
Nov 5 - 5:01 PM

 

[CalamityX11]

Aaron Dobson is in my top-10, and Hunter is the one you question?

LOL :rapture:

 

[clyde_carbon]

2013 NFL draft - USC's Robert Woods leads top slot WR prospects - ESPN

 

[clyde_carbon]

2013 NFL draft -- Big names moving in the latest prospect rankings - ESPN

 

[uncfan103]

2013 NFL draft - USC's Robert Woods leads top slot WR prospects - ESPN

I don't have insider, can you tell me who the five were?

 

[BINGO]

This is the most bizzare mock I've seen to date. Ezekiel Ansah makes his debut. Kid is going to be a stud, especially in that system he is drafted to play in. Clyde would have a fit if the super bowl champs (team picking at 32) landed in that squad:

2013 NFL Mock Draft: Adding Trades to the 1st Round Picture | Bleacher Report

 

[clyde_carbon]

This is the most bizzare mock I've seen to date. Ezekiel Ansah makes his debut. Kid is going to be a stud, especially in that system he is drafted to play in. Clyde would have a fit if the super bowl champs (team picking at 32) landed in that squad:

2013 NFL Mock Draft: Adding Trades to the 1st Round Picture | Bleacher Report

Weird mock.

2nd pick - DT
3rd pick - DT
4th pick - OT
5th pick - OT
6th pick - OG
8th pick - OT
10th pick - DT
11th pick - DE
12th pick - OT
13th pick - DT
14th pick - OG
15th pick - OT
16th pick - DE


This guy loves his lineman. 3 out of his top-16 are NOT lineman, and two of them are LBs. Yeah, not gonna happen.

 

[clyde_carbon]

And yes, yes I would Bingo. Especially for Vaccaro? Yuk.

 

[BINGO]

I don't have insider, can you tell me who the five were?

NFL Draft 2013
Commentary
Pair of Aggies on the rise
Productive pass-rushers are on the move; RB and QB look thin
Originally Published: November 7, 2012
By Todd McShay | Scouts Inc.

The No. 1 spot in my ranking of the top 32 overall prospects for the 2013 NFL draft is still on lockdown, but big names are on the move elsewhere.

The shuffling begins near the top, with Texas A&M DE Damontre Moore jumping seven spots to No. 5. Teammate OT Luke Joeckel moved up seven spots into the top 10 this week.

The biggest riser is Oregon DE Dion Jordan, who has gone from unranked to the top 15 in a matter of weeks. Stanford TE Zach Ertz has worked his way back into the top 32, while USC QB Matt Barkley continues to slide and is on the verge of falling out of the top 20.

From a positional standpoint, linemen on both sides of the ball continue to dominate. Twenty interior players are in this week's rankings, and while only two of those are guards, both land in the top 10.

Meanwhile, there are still no running backs or centers in the first-round mix. Safety (1), quarterback (2) and cornerback (2) are also lacking elite talent at this point.

Here is a look at the entire list, with draft-eligible non-seniors noted with an asterisk:

 

[BINGO]

1. Star Lotulelei DT 6-3 320
Analysis: Lotulelei continues to dominate interior offensive linemen with his blend of quickness and power. He has strong hands, nimble feet, the ability to quickly discard blockers and impressive lateral range.
Previously: 1

2. Jarvis Jones* OLB 6-2 242
Analysis: Jones is a steady performer on a defense loaded with NFL prospects. He is a good overall athlete and top-notch pass-rusher, has impressive range in both pass coverage and against the run, and can line up all over the defensive formation.
Previously: 4

3. Manti Te'o ILB 6-1 248
Analysis: Te'o is a three-down linebacker who is strong at the point and delivers a solid hit against the run. He has good range and playmaking ability in underneath coverage. Te'o has impressive movement skills for a player his size, and he sets the tone for his teammates with his leadership and focus.
Previously: 6

4. Chance Warmack OG 6-2⅜ 325
Analysis: Warmack is a big, strong, nasty lineman with good smarts and athleticism. The best guard I've evaluated in the past decade, Warmack is the rare interior lineman worthy of a top-10 overall pick.
Previously: 5

5. Damontre Moore* DE 6-4 248
Analysis: A versatile prospect who can play outside linebacker in a 3-4, right or left end in a 4-3 and even move inside to rush the passer from the interior. Moore is quick and fluid as a pass-rusher, is able to hold up against the run and plays hard. He has at least one sack in eight of nine games this season and is tied for the lead nationally with 11.5 overall.
Previously: 12

6. Bjoern Werner* DE 6-4 255
Analysis: Werner has risen up the board this season thanks to improved pass-rush skills and his ability to set the edge against the run. His quickness and strong hands are impressive, and Werner can convert speed to power when rushing the passer.
Previously: 3

7. Barkevious Mingo* DE 6-5 240
Analysis: Mingo's long frame, elite first step as a pass-rusher and outstanding speed for his size make him a major weapon off the edge. He has great range and closing burst against the run.
Previously: 2

8. Luke Joeckel* OT 6-5¾ 306
Analysis: Joeckel showed well against LSU's talented defensive line earlier in the season. His balance and ability to recover in pass protection stand out, and he takes good angles and is able to get to the second level in the run game.
Previously: 15

9. Geno Smith QB 6-2¾ 208
Analysis: Smith got off to a hot start in 2012 and shot up the draft board as a result, but he has cooled off in recent weeks. Still, his confidence, footwork and mechanics stood out early in the season, and he is one of the smartest, hardest-working quarterbacks in the nation.
Previously: 8

10. Jonathan Cooper OG 6-3 320
Analysis: Cooper's quickness, mobility, explosive power, good feet and balance all jump out on film. He has good awareness in pass protection and plays with an edge overall. Cooper is making a solid case as an early first-round pick.
Previously: 9

11. Sylvester Williams DT 6-2 320
Analysis: Williams is a space-eater when he stays low and continues to flash the ability to make plays down the line of scrimmage. He needs to play with more consistent pad level, but he shows effective pass-rush moves at times.
Previously: 7

12. Johnathan Hankins* DT 6-3 335
Analysis: Hankins can occupy multiple blockers against the run, won't back down at the point of attack and will make plays with his effort as a pass-rusher.
Previously: 10

13. Dion Jordan DE 6-6⅛ 239
Analysis: Jordan is long and athletic, and he has explosive upper-body power despite his lean frame. He can rush the passer from a two- or three-point stance, holds up in space and has the versatility to play multiple roles along the front seven.
Previously: 25

14. Dee Milliner* CB 6-0¾ 197
Analysis: Milliner's instincts, recognition skills and discipline stand out, and he is reliable in run support. His overall game, including good top-end speed and short-area quickness, makes him the top-rated corner on the board.
Previously: 11

15. Cornellius Carradine DE 6-4½ 255
Analysis: He has stepped in for the injured Brandon Jenkins and turned plenty of heads. Carradine displays explosive upper-body power when rushing the passer, along with the flexibility to bend the edge. He is tough with a good motor, can lock out blockers against the run and can play left or right end in a 4-3 scheme.
Previously: 18

16. Johnathan Jenkins DT 6-4⅛ 363
Analysis: A massive two-gap nose tackle with a good combination of size, strength and short-area quickness to control the inside and occasionally contribute as a pass-rusher. Jenkins' range is limited, though.
Previously: 13

 

[BINGO]

17. Alec Ogletree* ILB 6-3 237
Analysis: Ogletree is a raw prospect in terms of instincts, but he is a freakish athlete who chases plays from sideline to sideline and shows good potential as a pass-rusher. He made a splash when he returned from suspension and recorded 14 tackles against Tennessee and has been a solid performer since.
Previously: 16

18. Sam Montgomery* DE 6-4 245
Analysis: Montgomery is not as athletic as Mingo, but his power as a pass-rusher stands out and he holds the point well against the run.
Previously: 20

19. Matt Barkley QB 6-1⅞ 228
Analysis: Barkley's lack of elite size and physical tools are showing up more in 2012, and he is struggling with his decision-making. He is a smart, accurate passer who can handle the blitz, though, and his ability to throw in rhythm would fit well in a West Coast offense.
Previously: 14

20. Sheldon Richardson DT 6-2⅞ 290
Analysis: Richardson is Missouri's best defensive player and continues to show effort as his team struggles overall. He can penetrate with a quick first step and has excellent straight-line speed, good range and power as a bull-rusher.
Previously: 19

21. Corey Lemonier* DE 6-4 242
Analysis: Lemonier is far and away the best player on the Auburn defense. Opposing offenses pay him extra attention, but he continues to produce. His first step is explosive, and he shows an impressive closing burst. He holds up well against the run and plays with a relentless motor.
Previously: 17

22. Justin Hunter* WR 6-4 205
Analysis: Hunter's smooth routes and body control on tape earned him a top-10 grade going into the season, but his production hasn't matched his potential and he has had some key drops. He remains the top receiver on the board, though, thanks to his size and overall physical tools.
Previously: 22

23. Kenny Vaccaro S 6-0½ 210
Analysis: Vaccaro has rare movement skills for a safety, showing balance, explosiveness and the ability to flip his hips and run with receivers. He has good instincts and solid ball skills in coverage.
Previously: 23

24. Dallas Thomas OT 6-5⅛ 297
Analysis: Thomas needs to improve his overall awareness, but he fared well recently against early-round Alabama DT Jesse Williams, has the versatility to line up at tackle or guard and possesses the size and strength to be effective in tight quarters.
Previously: 21

25. Robert Woods* WR 6-1 190
Analysis: Woods lacks elite size but is willing to work the middle of the field and is an effective, decisive runner after the catch. A sudden athlete who explodes off the line, Woods can eat up a defender's cushion and tracks the ball well down the field, though he has had some issues with drops this season.
Previously: 26

26. Zach Ertz* TE 6-6 249
Analysis: A solid route-runner who can create mismatches with his size and separate from coverage, Ertz shows strong hands and the speed to stretch the seam. There is room for improvement as a blocker, but he gets in solid position and can wall defenders off.
Previously: NR

27. Kawann Short DT 6-3⅛ 325
Analysis: Short is playing with more consistency, effort and explosiveness in 2012, disrupting offenses from the interior and giving himself a chance to be in the first-round mix.
Previously: 24

28. Keenan Allen* WR 6-3 206
Analysis: Allen has a good combination of size and speed, excellent hands and body control. He lacks the elite speed to run by defenders at the next level, but his size and strength allow him to win one-on-one battles down the field.
Previously: 27

29. Johnthan Banks CB 6-2⅛ 185
Analysis: A tall corner with good length, Banks has quick feet and is at his best in press coverage. He flashes good ball skills and some punt-return ability, and he is active and willing in run support.
Previously: 32

30. Bennie Logan* DT 6-3 290
Analysis: Logan is tough to block one-on-one in the run game, has great range and manhandles ball carriers. He is an impressive natural athlete with good upside as a pass-rusher.
Previously: 28

31. Shariff Floyd* DT 6-3 298
Analysis: Floyd doesn't have ideal size for a defensive tackle, but he is versatile enough to line up at end and shows quick hands, good lateral mobility and the power to walk blockers back to the quarterback.
Previously: 29

32. Taylor Lewan* OT 6-7 302
Analysis: Lewan has good length and protects the edge well, and he flashes the ability to drive defenders off the ball as a run-blocker. He is a tenacious player who gets under the skin of defenders.
Previously: 31

Out of the rankings: Georgia S Shawn Williams


Todd McShay is the director of college scouting for Scouts Inc. He has been evaluating prospects for the NFL draft since 1998.

 

[ChrisPozz]

USC fined for deflating footballs during game against Oregon

USC coach Lane Kiffin says manager deflating footballs acted alone - ESPN Los Angeles