2012 College Football / 2013 NFL Draft

[NinerSickness]

CBS' Updated Mock. I hope all four "experts" are wrong with the 9ers projections:

2013 NFL Mock Drafts - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Ezekiel Anzah is 7th, 12th, 19th & 10th in these guys' mocks...

I've been saying all along that Jarvis Jones (healthy) & Hankins are the 2 best defensive players in this draft, but the more I've seen from Ziggy, the more I'm starting to think that nomination belings to him. I know the dude's gonna be 25 years old soon (and might even be older 'cause African / Dominican / other foreign athletes lie about their ages all the time), but he's an absolute beast.

 

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Na-Na-Na-Natorious..

anyhow.. I dunno, I think he could be in the right place with our locker room and coaching staff. Wheras you put him in Mia or Jax, could be completely the wrong environment due to no long lasting leadership already in place.

I agree that Eifert will be a good/great TE, ceiling I would say Witten-esque..However, for us it would not be the best usage of an early pick. From the last two seasons, this offense doesn't seem to cater to the TE often. Not that it doesn't, but it's not as much of an integral part as we(I say we liberally, granted) initially expected.

In terms of production? Because I don't see the similarities at all with regard to the way they play the game. Eifert is an average blocker, and his ceiling (because of his frame and strength) is going to be in the above average in line blocker. Witten is an elite blocker but lacks top end speed and agility. Both players are very good route runners (Eifert a bit better) and posess soft hands. Eifert is a poor man's version of Jimmy Graham (not as good though). Bucky Brooks compared Eifert to Jermichael Finley, which isn't a far fetched comparison if you ask me.

I agree with Sick, in that he is in the top 20 best players in this entire draft. However, we don't need "that much" help from a TE since we already have an elite TE on our current roster. With so much attention on Crabtree, Davis, and now Boldin I think I can get by with a "good" #2 TE. We don't have to get a "great" #2 TE (Eifert). Which is why with regards to the 49ers outlook only, getting Escabar in the late 2nd is much better IMO than getting Eifert with our 31st pick. Again, this #2 TE doesn't have to be "elite" just good enough to beat safeties with his size and outrun LBs with his speed. I think Escabar or Gragg can be that player in our system as a #2 TE. I'd rather use that 31st pick to target another position of need.

 

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Ezekiel Anzah is 7th, 12th, 19th & 10th in these guys' mocks...

I've been saying all along that Jarvis Jones (healthy) & Hankins are the 2 best defensive players in this draft, but the more I've seen from Ziggy, the more I'm starting to think that nomination belings to him. I know the dude's gonna be 25 years old soon (and might even be older 'cause African / Dominican / other foreign athletes lie about their ages all the time), but he's an absolute beast.

Ansah is ridiculously good! I'd love to add him on our roster to play the end. With his length and strength, and sheer speed, he could be our poor man's version of JJ Watt.

 

[NinerSickness]

getting Escabar in the late 2nd is much better IMO than getting Eifert with our 31st pick.

And we were agreeing so much this offseason. Eifert at 31 > Escabar at 61 IMO.

Gotta vote no on Escabar in the 2nd. I don't like him much at all. There are really only about 4 TE scenarios I really like in this draft.

1. Eifert
2. Chris Gragg (late-round prospect)
3. Joseph Fauria (late-round prospect)

4. Draft Terron Armstead & have him play TE. He'd be the best blocking TE in the NFL the minute he steps onto the field. And he's nimble enough to line up in the backfield like Walker did on occasion. Keep the running game dominant!

Most of the other TEs in this draft don't offer very good bang for the buck based on where they're projected IMO.

 

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Jarvis Jones - LB - Bulldogs

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports five scouts told him Georgia OLB Jarvis Jones is a mid-first round selection.

"Talked to 5 scouts on UGA's Jarvis Jones. All said similar things: We knew he'd work out poorly. But he's a football player. Think mid-1st," Rapoport tweeted. This report seems to match the thinking of many peoples thoughts on Jones' talent, as he doesn't have ideal measurables or workout numbers but the physical talent to potentially become a quality rusher. He's very heavy-handed, albeit inconsistent.
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Apr 8 - 4:11 PM

 

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Jamar Taylor - DB - Player

According to TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline, Boise State's Jamar Taylor is the "hottest name" among draft-eligible cornerbacks.

Taylor has official visits lined up with each team selecting 27-32 and is gaining steam as a late-first round pick. At nearly 5-foot-11, 192 pounds with 4.39 speed, Taylor is physical and athletic, adding to Boise State's reputation for producing size/speed players. He is a favorite of Rotoworld prospects guru Josh Norris, who ranks Taylor as the No. 1 senior corner in the draft.
Source: TFY Draft Insider

Apr 8 - 2:51 PM

 

[Ray_Dogg]

@RapSheet 6m

NFL teams informed #Michigan's Denard Robinson's Combine re-check was "extremely positive." See "no long-term damage" for nerve contusion

 

[EKmane]

In terms of production? Because I don't see the similarities at all with regard to the way they play the game. Eifert is an average blocker, and his ceiling (because of his frame and strength) is going to be in the above average in line blocker. Witten is an elite blocker but lacks top end speed and agility. Both players are very good route runners (Eifert a bit better) and posess soft hands. Eifert is a poor man's version of Jimmy Graham (not as good though). Bucky Brooks compared Eifert to Jermichael Finley, which isn't a far fetched comparison if you ask me.

I agree with Sick, in that he is in the top 20 best players in this entire draft. However, we don't need "that much" help from a TE since we already have an elite TE on our current roster. With so much attention on Crabtree, Davis, and now Boldin I think I can get by with a "good" #2 TE. We don't have to get a "great" #2 TE (Eifert). Which is why with regards to the 49ers outlook only, getting Escabar in the late 2nd is much better IMO than getting Eifert with our 31st pick. Again, this #2 TE doesn't have to be "elite" just good enough to beat safeties with his size and outrun LBs with his speed. I think Escabar or Gragg can be that player in our system as a #2 TE. I'd rather use that 31st pick to target another position of need.

I was reading somewhere, where they were talking about Chris Harper being a candidate to be converted to a Delanie Walker type of H-back (with way better hands).

A 6'1, 230 lb, wr,from K-State.

 

[michaelwarner]

I was reading somewhere, where they were talking about Chris Harper being a candidate to be converted to a Delanie Walker type of H-back (with way better hands).

A 6'1, 230 lb, wr,from K-State.

I have irrational Chris Harper love. He's a beast

 

[deep9er]

In terms of production? Because I don't see the similarities at all with regard to the way they play the game. Eifert is an average blocker, and his ceiling (because of his frame and strength) is going to be in the above average in line blocker. Witten is an elite blocker but lacks top end speed and agility. Both players are very good route runners (Eifert a bit better) and posess soft hands. Eifert is a poor man's version of Jimmy Graham (not as good though). Bucky Brooks compared Eifert to Jermichael Finley, which isn't a far fetched comparison if you ask me.

I agree with Sick, in that he is in the top 20 best players in this entire draft. However, we don't need "that much" help from a TE since we already have an elite TE on our current roster. With so much attention on Crabtree, Davis, and now Boldin I think I can get by with a "good" #2 TE. We don't have to get a "great" #2 TE (Eifert). Which is why with regards to the 49ers outlook only, getting Escabar in the late 2nd is much better IMO than getting Eifert with our 31st pick. Again, this #2 TE doesn't have to be "elite" just good enough to beat safeties with his size and outrun LBs with his speed. I think Escabar or Gragg can be that player in our system as a #2 TE. I'd rather use that 31st pick to target another position of need.

IMO, no problem drafting a top 20 player at the 31st spot. so IF Eifert is in fact top 20, this is solid value.

i know we have Vernon so the Need isn't HIGH, but over the course of Eifert's career, i'm sure he'll help a ton.

 

[NinerSickness]

I was reading somewhere, where they were talking about Chris Harper being a candidate to be converted to a Delanie Walker type of H-back (with way better hands).

A 6'1, 230 lb, wr,from K-State.

There's a guy who might not get drafted whom I'd like the Niners to try out in that role. Mark Harrison from Rutgers. 6'3 231; longest arms of any WR (or TE for that matter) at the combine by a decent margin. Plays like a fast TE IMO.

 

[4lifer9er]

There's a guy who might not get drafted whom I'd like the Niners to try out in that role. Mark Harrison from Rutgers. 6'3 231; longest arms of any WR (or TE for that matter) at the combine by a decent margin. Plays like a fast TE IMO.

Does he have the frame to get to 240-245? or is he maxed out at 231? like does he have broad shoulders/frame that can accept 10 lbs in a pro lifting scenario and not lose the speed?

 

[4lifer9er]

Jarvis Jones - LB - Bulldogs

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports five scouts told him Georgia OLB Jarvis Jones is a mid-first round selection.

"Talked to 5 scouts on UGA's Jarvis Jones. All said similar things: We knew he'd work out poorly. But he's a football player. Think mid-1st," Rapoport tweeted. This report seems to match the thinking of many peoples thoughts on Jones' talent, as he doesn't have ideal measurables or workout numbers but the physical talent to potentially become a quality rusher. He's very heavy-handed, albeit inconsistent.
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Apr 8 - 4:11 PM

Man.. I would effing love it if he slipped to 20 and we got him.. but won't happen. He wouldn't make it past the Steelers or Cowboys.. Dude is just a baller on the field.

 

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David Quessenberry - T - Spartans

Draft insider Tony Pauline notes that San Jose State OL David Quessenberry could be selected earlier than many expect.

"The offensive lineman has been stamped as a "five position player" by a number of teams, who rank Quessenberry as a top 75 choice," Pauline writes. Quessenberry impressed during Senior Bowl week and showed off his positional versatility. We highly doubt he makes it out of the fourth-round.
Source: TFY Draft Insider

Apr 9 - 10:54 AM

 

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Shamarko Thomas - DB - Orange

Scouts Inc.'s Kevin Weidl believes Syracuse's Shamarko Thomas is the most recent S that plays the game with "no regard for his body."

Weidl recalls that current Browns safety TJ Ward was the last to share this trait. "Vicious striker," Weidl added. "This safety class is physical and plays (with) an edge near the top. You could put together a serious highlight reel of big hits between them." We love Thomas' mentality, but there are flashes of tight hips when forced to change multiple angles.
Source: Kevin Weidl on Twitter

Apr 9 - 10:37 AM

 

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Sylvester Williams - DT - Tar Heels

Draft insider Tony Pauline expects the Panthers to select a DT in the top three rounds.

Pauline notes the Panthers hosted Sylvester Williams for a visit and worked out Akeem Spence. The team also had dinner with Datone Jones, but the UCLA product fits as both an edge rusher and interior penetrator. The Panthers do not hold a third-round pick, so they might look to add one by trading down.
Source: TFY Draft Insider

Apr 9 - 11:33 AM

 

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Buzz on Tennessee's first pick
April, 9, 2013 11:49AM ET
By Tim Kavanagh | ESPN.com

Some of the NFL teams near the top of the draft order worked furiously during free agency to address needs at a variety of positions, and thus, their first-round pick can be used on the best available player on their draft board, with no positional requirements. That's not to say that these teams are without needs overall, but the glaring ones appear to have been addressed. One of the teams that fits the description this offseason is the Tennessee Titans.

With multiple interior O-linemen and defensive backs brought in, some assume that the Titans' first-rounder will be a defensive lineman, and as Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean discovered in looking at a variety of mock drafts, DEs and DTs were popular picks. In addition, interior offensive linemen -- specifically, Chance Warmack and Jonathan Cooper -- were shipped to Nashville, and this makes sense: grabbing one of them to pair with newly-signed Andy Levitre should yield a formidable front five.

One interesting idea that hasn't gained a lot of traction yet is for Tennessee to target a CB, and if all goes as expected, the Titans may have their pick of the entire class aside from Dee Milliner. In securing a player skilled at manning an outside coverage corner spot, Tennessee would be able to slide Alterraun Verner inside, an area in which he excels. We'll find out soon enough if Tennessee's front office is of the same opinion.

 

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Arizona locked in on OL at No. 7?
April, 9, 2013 11:02AM ET
By Tim Kavanagh | ESPN.com

Despite trading for Carson Palmer, the Arizona Cardinals are still in need of a long-term answer at QB, which has led to speculation that they may use their first-round pick (No. 7 overall) on a player at the position. However, having Palmer on the roster gives them the freedom to use the pick on another position of great need, and one area where they certainly could use some help is on the offensive line.

Scott Allen of Cardinals blog Raising Zona remarks that if Eric Fisher is there for the Cards at No. 7, he's a no-brainer selection. The versatile Lane Johnson could also be consideration. Should both of those gentlemen be off the board, it's possible the Cards could use the pick on one of the top OGs -- Chance Warmack or Jonathan Cooper -- or look to bolster another area, such as the pass-rush or CB (if Dee Milliner happens to fall in this scenario). Finally, the Cards could look to trade down, though that would require a team looking to move up. So if there is another club that is set on jumping ahead of Buffalo at No. 8, it could happen.

 

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OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST!!!!!!!!!

He's a Marxist, but he runs a 4.2 forty.

 

[Rvnight18]

He's a Marxist, but he runs a 4.2 forty.

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