10 Reasons why an Appeal Overturns TB12 Suspension

[Thumper]

As a Giants Fan, I'm prouder now than ever about those 2 title wins over the Pats

Is there any doubt they cheated in some way in those games? And
And still lost?

Awesome

As a Redskin's fan, I'm proud that you beat the Patriots too!




:-0

 

[BoBlake]

Now lying and covering up, that's another matter. This is why he's suspended. Has nothing to do with the actual tampering of the balls.

This is the only reason why I care about it, for example. I don't suspect that the deflated balls have much impact on the game.

That being said, I am curious to see next year if the fumble numbers and/or dropped pass numbers start to increase back to the league average. That could change some things.

 

[NEPatsfan]

You have a problem with firearms?

Why is the combo an issure for him? Once you finish the JD you get to target shoot the bottle and glasses.

 

[WizardHawk]

This is the only reason why I care about it, for example. I don't suspect that the deflated balls have much impact on the game.

That being said, I am curious to see next year if the fumble numbers and/or dropped pass numbers start to increase back to the league average. That could change some things.

We don't know what the impact is, and never will. Those stats you speak of weren't so far off that they wouldn't have returned anyway.

No one knows how long this has been going on. And unless one of the twits involved in doing this comes clean, we never will. His fans will ALWAYS believe he's entirely innocent and nothing ever happened. It's a witch hunt and misunderstandings at most. The haters will believe he's dirty and always has been. Nothing but a dirty cheater and shouldn't be considered one of the greats because of it. He's the NFL's Barry Bonds.

And nothing that happens over the coming months is going to change that for either side. He may get his suspension dropped down a game or two and who knows what will come of the rest of it, but there is no resolution that changes what both sides believe now. It's been shown up here that facts don't matter. And that goes for both sides.

Fun to watch as someone who don't care either way. Great entertainment.

 

[Broncosr0k]

Pats fans had better hope this special lawyer makes better arguments than they do. I don't think "nope" is going to work well during the appeal.

 

[bigred472]

Feel free to list that long list you speak of. Take your time.

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Are you on drugs seriously? What list in my post #15 are you referring to?

 

[NEPatsfan]

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Are you on drugs seriously? What list in my post #15 are you referring to?

In your post #14 you stated,

"But there is a reasonably long list of "improper" activity by this team that goes way back."

 

[bigred472]

In your post #14 you stated,

"But there is a reasonably long list of "improper" activity by this team that goes way back."

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There is a list. If you're in denial about it, like all your arguments so be it.

 

[NEPatsfan]

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There is a list. If you're in denial about it, like all your arguments so be it.

And like most things with you, you proclaim something then can't post it.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Pats fan to Brady....just tell them it wasn't me. That's our line and we are sticking to it.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Pats fan to Brady....just tell them it wasn't me. That's our line and we are sticking to it.

So do you see any reason the entire investigation shouldn't be made public? Notes, transcripts, etc?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

So do you see any reason the entire investigation shouldn't be made public? Notes, transcripts, etc?

I think every thing should be public, including whatever was on Tom Brady phone. Can't wait for the equipment guys to start singing. Who knows what kind of dirt they have on the Pats.

 

[NEPatsfan]

I think every thing should be public, including whatever was on Tom Brady phone. Can't wait for the equipment guys to start singing. Who knows what kind of dirt they have on the Pats.

How about we just start with what they already have? I mean think about it, they don't want to release it. I wonder what they are hiding?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

How about we just start with what they already have? I mean think about it, they don't want to release it. I wonder what they are hiding?

Funny, I wonder what Tom is hiding. Isn't he the one being investigated?

 

[NEPatsfan]

Funny, I wonder what Tom is hiding. Isn't he the one being investigated?

Nope. He was investigated, past tense.

Now the league should make the entire investigation public for us all to have a look at.

 

[bigred472]

And like most things with you, you proclaim something then can't post it.

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I back up everything unlike you. But let's make this easy. YOU google "infractions/fines imposed" on the New England Patriots over the last 20 years and come back here and show everyone your answers--not by number but by issue.

 

[NEPatsfan]

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I back up everything unlike you. But let's make this easy. YOU google "infractions/fines imposed" on the New England Patriots over the last 20 years and come back here and show everyone your answers--not by number but by issue.

It comes out to about average compared to every other team in the NFL. In fact in the last 8 years they happen to be one of the least penalized.

Maybe you should actually look shit up first.

 

[bigred472]

Funny, I wonder what Tom is hiding. Isn't he the one being investigated?

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If he wasn't "hiding" why didn't he turn over all his football related texts/emails/conversations?

 

[bigred472]

It comes out to about average compared to every other team in the NFL. In fact in the last 8 years they happen to be one of the least penalized.

Maybe you should actually look shit up first.

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Nope the onus is on you. No generalities, I askd you to provide specific issues. Surely you can be honest with that

 

[NEPatsfan]

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If he wasn't "hiding" why didn't he turn over all his football related texts/emails/conversations?

Not sure, you would have to ask him. It's his personal phone and not his work phone so my guess is that is the position he, and his legal team, are taking.

Now I'm wondering why won't the league release then entire investigation so we can all review it?