The unofficially official offseason thread

[podsox]

2022: The Year That Broke White Sox Fans. The White Sox have stopped trying to sell themselves

 

[Mingo]

The Road to The Show™: Oscar Colas

Each week, MiLB.com profiles an elite prospect by chronicling the steps he's taken toward achieving his Major League dream. Here's a look at second-ranked White Sox prospect Oscar Colas. For more stories about players on The Road to The Show, click here. There are few players in the Minor...

www.milb.com

This kid is talented.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

The Road to The Show™: Oscar Colas

Each week, MiLB.com profiles an elite prospect by chronicling the steps he's taken toward achieving his Major League dream. Here's a look at second-ranked White Sox prospect Oscar Colas. For more stories about players on The Road to The Show, click here. There are few players in the Minor...

www.milb.com

This kid is talented.

Hope to see him in Spring Training. At the present, I'm planning to attend at least one game down there, depending on the schedule and such. If he does well then it might be reasonable in expecting him to bust a move up to the bigs at some point this coming season. You never know.

 

[Mingo]

Hope to see him in Spring Training. At the present, I'm planning to attend at least one game down there, depending on the schedule and such. If he does well then it might be reasonable in expecting him to bust a move up to the bigs at some point this coming season. You never know.

I think he starts game one and hopefully does well enough to hold down the job all year.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

Home

Home Page

www.nbcsports.com

I guess any time you can avoid arbitration, it's a good thing. Yeah, it's a business, everyone knows this, but you can't help but wonder that whenever the situation requires arbitration, there might be some leftover animosity.

 

[Mingo]

White Sox add former Nationals assistant GM to staff, enjoy uneventful arbitration deadline

Sam Mondry-Cohen will serve as an offensive complement to Rod Larson with the White Sox, blending analytics with old-school concepts.

theathletic.com

James Fegan @ The Athletic - with more internal Sox changes:

"
It is through this prism that the White Sox hiring former Washington Nationals assistant general manager Sam Mondry-Cohen, confirmed by the team, is best understood for now. Mondry-Cohen spent the past year as a consultant for the National League champion Philadelphia Phillies, an executive in residence at a biomechanics company called Reboot Motion and as a senior fellow for Wharton’s sports analytics and business initiative at the University of Pennsylvania. But Mondry-Cohen is best known for his time with the Washington Nationals, where he was credited with effectively creating their research and development department and developing their internal statistical database, beginning as an intern with the team in 2009 until he left after the 2021 season.

The White Sox roughly summarized Mondry-Cohen’s role as an offensive complement to Larson’s. And despite all the fancy front office titles and responsibilities, Mondry-Cohen’s experience with the Nationals is rooted in trying to distill analytical information into actionable takeaways for players on the field. That figures to also be the thrust of a role that per a source, will also involve traveling with the team throughout the season. As will also be the case with the White Sox, Mondry-Cohen’s time with the Nationals was an effort in blending advanced metrics into the process of a franchise that maintains an open reverence for old-school baseball concepts, and it culminated in a World Series championship in 2019.

Coincidentally or not, this staff addition comes as new manager Pedro Grifol has preached the importance of Sox hitters having their own baseline level of analytical competence, to better understand the nature of pitching that they will be facing every night. Grifol’s incoming hitting coaches have echoed the same message. For what it’s worth, the information Mondry-Cohen will handle is proprietary enough that the White Sox politely declined an interview request for him, as they do not typically make analytical staff members available to media."

---

 

[idseer]

White Sox add former Nationals assistant GM to staff, enjoy uneventful arbitration deadline

Sam Mondry-Cohen will serve as an offensive complement to Rod Larson with the White Sox, blending analytics with old-school concepts.

theathletic.com

James Fegan @ The Athletic - with more internal Sox changes:

"
It is through this prism that the White Sox hiring former Washington Nationals assistant general manager Sam Mondry-Cohen, confirmed by the team, is best understood for now. Mondry-Cohen spent the past year as a consultant for the National League champion Philadelphia Phillies, an executive in residence at a biomechanics company called Reboot Motion and as a senior fellow for Wharton’s sports analytics and business initiative at the University of Pennsylvania. But Mondry-Cohen is best known for his time with the Washington Nationals, where he was credited with effectively creating their research and development department and developing their internal statistical database, beginning as an intern with the team in 2009 until he left after the 2021 season.

The White Sox roughly summarized Mondry-Cohen’s role as an offensive complement to Larson’s. And despite all the fancy front office titles and responsibilities, Mondry-Cohen’s experience with the Nationals is rooted in trying to distill analytical information into actionable takeaways for players on the field. That figures to also be the thrust of a role that per a source, will also involve traveling with the team throughout the season. As will also be the case with the White Sox, Mondry-Cohen’s time with the Nationals was an effort in blending advanced metrics into the process of a franchise that maintains an open reverence for old-school baseball concepts, and it culminated in a World Series championship in 2019.

Coincidentally or not, this staff addition comes as new manager Pedro Grifol has preached the importance of Sox hitters having their own baseline level of analytical competence, to better understand the nature of pitching that they will be facing every night. Grifol’s incoming hitting coaches have echoed the same message. For what it’s worth, the information Mondry-Cohen will handle is proprietary enough that the White Sox politely declined an interview request for him, as they do not typically make analytical staff members available to media."

---

all of this doesn't matter as long as reinsdork is calling the shots. isn't this clear to you yet?

 

[Mingo]

Adding Former Nationals Assistant GM Could Be White Sox Best Pickup This Offseason

The addition of Sam Mondry-Cohen to the White Sox could be one of the most impactful moves the organization has made this offseason.

www.sportsmockery.com

I like the idea of being prepared to play and this fellow appears to have a great track record.

 

[podsox]

. Great scouting department

 

[Mingo]

. Great scouting department

Meanwhile, the international signings are well represented on the roster and add up to half of the top 10 prospects. They should transfer Marco Paddy stateside.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

. Great scouting department

I knew our HS track record hadn't been all that good, but I had no idea it was THAT bad. Let's hope Colson Montgomery can break the spell. I also had really high hopes at one point for Jared Kelley to bust into the lineup, but it's not looking so great these days.

 

[Jiddy]

. Great scouting department

And yet...Hahn still has a job. The question is...Why?

Dude's claim to fame is trading away our good players for prospects, denouncing the fans for not "seeing the big picture," then failing miserably against all the actually good teams when it was time to cash in on those years of suffering and the Sox finally have a shot.

I mean...WHAT THE F*CK ELSE DOES THIS GUY HAVE TO DO TO GET CANNED? The story is kind of written. I would love to believe that the White Sox are going to have this miraculous turnaround this upcoming season. But does anyone think there's a higher ceiling than possibly a first round playoff exit?

Dipsh*t's plans, by his own admission, should have had us a WS contenders by now...He failed by his own metrics as far as I'm concerned.

Toss his ass out of Comiskey like DJ Jazzy Jeff in Bel Aire.

 

[idseer]

And yet...Hahn still has a job. The question is...Why?

Dude's claim to fame is trading away our good players for prospects, denouncing the fans for not "seeing the big picture," then failing miserably against all the actually good teams when it was time to cash in on those years of suffering and the Sox finally have a shot.

I mean...WHAT THE F*CK ELSE DOES THIS GUY HAVE TO DO TO GET CANNED? The story is kind of written. I would love to believe that the White Sox are going to have this miraculous turnaround this upcoming season. But does anyone think there's a higher ceiling than possibly a first round playoff exit?

Dipsh*t's plans, by his own admission, should have had us a WS contenders by now...He failed by his own metrics as far as I'm concerned.

Toss his ass out of Comiskey like DJ Jazzy Jeff in Bel Aire.

i hear that you're upset with hahn. your question is ... why is he still employed by the sox? not sure i understand why you can't see the obvious answer. hahn is NOT the problem!

 

[Jiddy]

i hear that you're upset with hahn. your question is ... why is he still employed by the sox? not sure i understand why you can't see the obvious answer. hahn is NOT the problem!

Jerry will be gone the minute he dies for the estate taxes. He's a shrewd CPA. So there's nothing we can do there until that happens. Hoping Jerry sells during his lifetime is a pipe dream. So the two are not really equal propositions. Hahn getting canned is legitimately possible. Jerry gonna die when Jerry gonna die and the team won't be moved a moment sooner. No reason worrying about it until it happens.

However, when it happens I'm just hoping at the same time some gajillionaire is looking for a baseball team and a new hobby to waste their endless money on. We deserve years of just reckless dumbass overspending on all the best players. Let me have this when Jerry dies combined with 2005 and my White Sox fandom will be complete and I can die happy.

 

[podsox]

i hear that you're upset with hahn. your question is ... why is he still employed by the sox? not sure i understand why you can't see the obvious answer. hahn is NOT the problem!

He's definitely part of the problem

 

[idseer]

He's definitely part of the problem

well, everyone is "part" of the problem ... but THEE problem is the head of the beast. HE is the reason we have the same problems. hahn is a symptom . reinsdorf is the disease. replace hahn and we still have the same problem.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

I think he (Colas) starts game one and hopefully does well enough to hold down the job all year.

You just may get your wish brutha!!

Home

Home Page

www.nbcsports.com

 

[Mingo]

You just may get your wish brutha!!

Home

Home Page

www.nbcsports.com

Colas plays good defense and has a rocket arm. On top of that he is a left-handed power bat. Colas has spent the winter in Miami with the Sox hitting guru Tobias - he strikes out too much and chases the outside slider. If he fixes the swing and miss and shows more patience with the slider - he could contend for ROY. A lot of ifs here, but that's not unusual kind of risk for these Sox to take.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

Things that make you go hmmmm.......

Which Teams Make The Most Sense For Elvis Andrus?

This offseason's crop of free agents featured a clear top four in the shortstop category. Carlos Correa, Trea Turner, Xander …

www.mlbtraderumors.com

A return to the White Sox would also make sense, even though Anderson should be back in the shortstop position. The second base spot is less clear, with Josh Harrison a free agent and Danny Mendick having signed with the Mets. Romy González, Leury García, Lenyn Sosa and non-roster invitee Hanser Alberto are some of the options that will be in camp next month, though none of those options are particularly inspiring. Andrus already said he’d be willing to play second next to Anderson and perhaps that would be a better option for the Sox than anything else currently on hand.

So why isn't Hahn at least calling his agent to talk some shit over?

 

[Mingo]

Puzzle????? Grifol thinks he is a communicator - Eloy thinks he will be playing the OF more than DHing. Hmmm...

The only thing that explains this discrepancy is that Eloy will be the 4th outfielder - playing LF and RF, but the outfield ABs should not exceed his DH ABs.