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The problem with big arms is systemic. Talent scouts all know the exact same things you just stated, however, they are powerless to do anything about it. If you give a recommendation for a strong armed physically gifted QB to be drafted and they fail, you can fall back on the fact that he DID possess all the qualities you stated. If you give a recommendation for a QB who isn't a superior physical athlete, you have nothing to fall back on if they fail, because your recommendation was based on intangibles with no quantifiable property, and the scout loses his job. In essence a scout is forced to go on strictly physical properties of quarterbacks when making recommendations to their teams.
Well that sucks disease infested, open sore bull testicles. Particularly when considering there's only 32 of those jobs available.
 

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again dean you are having trouble with the kings english again so i will break it down for you . saying RR will go back to wince when he recovers doesnt mean i endorse that move or dont endorse it . and RR being stupid doesnt mean i support his stupid moves

in my opinion wince's play doesnt justify the trade and that we would be where we are right now with falco

now i will go further with the kings english dean you cant say i dont have any " proof of that " statement but yet declare wince will beat the texans and the falcons without said proof either

that is called bias , and homerism

the bottom line is we need a qb and that trade is looming as disastrous
Dean lectured me today that he is here to "talk football".

What happened today is of no consequence. According to Dean, this is all a distraction...we need to focus on the football team only.

The fact is, he is only here to push his agenda about Wentz.
 

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again dean you are having trouble with the kings english again so i will break it down for you . saying RR will go back to wince when he recovers doesnt mean i endorse that move or dont endorse it . and RR being stupid doesnt mean i support his stupid moves

in my opinion wince's play doesnt justify the trade and that we would be where we are right now with falco

now i will go further with the kings english dean you cant say i dont have any " proof of that " statement but yet declare wince will beat the texans and the falcons without said proof either

that is called bias , and homerism

the bottom line is we need a qb and that trade is looming as disastrous

He is going back to him b/c he is the better QB and wants to win. Yes it does matter that TH is playing b/c of injury. RR basically said in the offseason anybody but TH. IF he had confidence in Th, RR would have never made the Wentz trade. Doesnt matter is you support it or not that is why it was done.
 

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In a comparison, you need information from the two things being compared.

I gave you a statistical comparison of TH and CW. TH was actually superior. From there, Wentz has the ability to make all the throws; however, he is wildly inconsistent and has no pocket awareness. Wentz is a complete joke, a literal joke. When the Colts gave up what they did and then cut bait after a single season, YOU should be able to learn from that.

Sure good move from the Colts. Where are the Colts right now at QB? They thought they could have won the Super Bowl with Ryan. lol. They still gave up a 3rd to get Ryan. If Wentz is a complete joke what is Ryan or the Colts?
 

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Dean lectured me today that he is here to "talk football".

What happened today is of no consequence. According to Dean, this is all a distraction...we need to focus on the football team only.

The fact is, he is only here to push his agenda about Wentz.

NO agenda. Just common sense
 

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He is going back to him b/c he is the better QB and wants to win. Yes it does matter that TH is playing b/c of injury. RR basically said in the offseason anybody but TH. IF he had confidence in Th, RR would have never made the Wentz trade. Doesnt matter is you support it or not that is why it was done.
what you think doesnt matter or change the fact that RR 's "anybody " hasnt done any netter the what falco would have done . we need a new qb and we botched the trade
 

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what you think doesnt matter or change the fact that RR 's "anybody " hasnt done any netter the what falco would have done . we need a new qb and we botched the trade

no doubt we need a qb. I just want to see Wentz again
 

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He is going back to him b/c he is the better QB and wants to win. Yes it does matter that TH is playing b/c of injury. RR basically said in the offseason anybody but TH. IF he had confidence in Th, RR would have never made the Wentz trade. Doesnt matter is you support it or not that is why it was done.
There you go again making up stories.
Rivera never said anybody but Falco. I'd that was the case, Howell would be starting and Falco would have been cut in the off-season. You don't need 3 qbs on an active NFL roster.
 

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so you are benching Wentz at 6-6? or 8-6?
we arent 6-6 or 8-6 we are 4-5 soon to be 4-6 and i am saying falco can win or lose these up coming games as wince can
 

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so you are benching Wentz at 6-6? or 8-6? RR could care less about the 2nd rounder if Wentz is winning.
Wentz should not see the field again because he sucks and puts a 2nd round pick in jeopardy.
Why did Rivera say quarterback dean?
Wentz wasn't winning before, why should he win now?
 

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NO agenda. Just common sense
That is not true and you know it.
95% of your posts are about how we need Wentz and how everybody is clueless but you.
Common sense isn't your strength dean.
11 wins, the fans will come back if we win, Turner's offense working, Wentz, etc. Half the time you misquote people or get the facts wrong.
You accused me the other day of saying we would get 6 wins. That was a lie and I showed you the post and date. You were making it up and lied. Your hall of Fame includes:

Cousins not making the playoffs
Bostic being an average player.
Other teams talking with the colts about Wentz
Tua being rated higher than burrow in the draft.

Shall I go on?


Again, you need a new hobby sir. I have no clue why you post here to be honest.
 

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we arent 6-6 or 8-6 we are 4-5 soon to be 4-6 and i am saying falco can win or lose these up coming games as wince can
This is a true statement.
 

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There you go again making up stories.
Rivera never said anybody but Falco. I'd that was the case, Howell would be starting and Falco would have been cut in the off-season. You don't need 3 qbs on an active NFL roster.

The Wentz trade proves he had no faith in TH.
 

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we arent 6-6 or 8-6 we are 4-5 soon to be 4-6 and i am saying falco can win or lose these up coming games as wince can

we will see if he makes the move. With new ownership coming you dont think RR feels that he is going to be gone? He is the one who made the trade you would think he would have confidence in him to win. lol
 

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Wentz should not see the field again because he sucks and puts a 2nd round pick in jeopardy.
Why did Rivera say quarterback dean?
Wentz wasn't winning before, why should he win now?
that was from his whole tenure here why he wasnt winning. He has had bad qb play since he got here. Are you arguing that?
 

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That is not true and you know it.
95% of your posts are about how we need Wentz and how everybody is clueless but you.
Common sense isn't your strength dean.
11 wins, the fans will come back if we win, Turner's offense working, Wentz, etc. Half the time you misquote people or get the facts wrong.
You accused me the other day of saying we would get 6 wins. That was a lie and I showed you the post and date. You were making it up and lied. Your hall of Fame includes:

Cousins not making the playoffs
Bostic being an average player.
Other teams talking with the colts about Wentz
Tua being rated higher than burrow in the draft.

Shall I go on?


Again, you need a new hobby sir. I have no clue why you post here to be honest.

my posts are saying im not giving up on Wentz. I made a typo on Tua over Broow, I meant Tua over Herbert. Bostic played well last week. lol. Do you want me to start with your predictions? lol Everyone makes predictions. You a Monday morning QB. Move on.
 
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we arent 6-6 or 8-6 we are 4-5 soon to be 4-6 and i am saying falco can win or lose these up coming games as wince can

you didn't answer my hypothetical. Does he bench Wentz in this situation?
 

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my posts are saying im not giving up on Wentz. I made a typo on Tua over Broow, I meant Tua over Herbert. Bostic played well last week. lol
I think we can both admit that we have bigger fish to fry than a lame duck QB in Carson Wentz right? Isn't the future of the entire organization , getting a new owner, navigating the law suite, re engaging the fans, and rebuilding trust more important than ifncsrson Wentz starts again?

We need to get the fans back dean and we need to develop a team that can win long term. Wentz, Rivera, and the 2022 team is all not in the big picture of where we need to go. Like you said, most of the coaches and front office will be gone once the new owner comes on board.
 
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