Vikings post game

[Breed]

Yeah, fucked up thing is if BSJ was gonna hold/hold up a WR that 47 yarder would've been the time to do it.

I gotta pay attention next game to see if he's a regular on the XP block team. Cuz what Ridgeway did it looked like he had NO idea you can't hit the long snapper on any special teams.

Hmm, maybe on Jackson far as the improved defense. Still, a terrible move by GM Rivera

Far as Payne goes and a reality check. Yeah he's deserving of a big payday, but so will Sweat n Chase coming right up. I just don't see having 60 mill+ tied up in a front four. Hiss trade value should be sky high right now. That might be the most prudent path for the Skins to take. We'll see.

 

[skinsdad62]

Studs and duds from Week 9 as Commanders collapse late vs Vikings

The Commanders blew a 10-point fourth quarter lead against the Vikings on Sunday. Here are Washington's studs and duds from the Week 9 loss.

riggosrag.com

 

[Sportster 72]

BSJ grabs every week. It seems he gets away with one or two every week as well. As you stated not the fastest guy, but I like him. I'd like him a lot more as my #2 and not my #1. Looked like he was traveling yesterday. That says a lot.

Ridgeway fkd up, but someone has to tell them if anyone gets a penalty this game is over. Just stand up.

Not sure on Holcomb. Hoping a ownership and coaching change can make Payne priority number one. I don't think he is that with this current staff.

Good point with JDR, but I really think WJ3 may have been the Fly in the ointment. Can't underestimate the job Zgonina (ska-neena) has done. Mills had obviously lost the D-Line room.

Bullsear!! JDR is playing zone match. Early in the year they were playing straight zone. Jackson should have done better in zone match. They missed Curl early.

They need to keep Payne.

 

[kbso83432]

Bullsear!! JDR is playing zone match. Early in the year they were playing straight zone. Jackson should have done better in zone match. They missed Curl early.

They need to keep Payne.

Keim on the Junkies made it sound like it may hinge on Wentz and that 28m.

Adding Mathis and Chase to this line is really gonna free up Allen and Payne. I hope Ron sees that.

 

[duke1861]

Keim on the Junkies made it sound like it may hinge on Wentz and that 28m.

Adding Mathis and Chase to this line is really gonna free up Allen and Payne. I hope Ron sees that.

So signing Payne depends on the Wentz contract? Is it even a debate?
I guess I thought it was a forgone conclusion that Wentz would be released in the offseason. Maybe Rivera believes in him and wants to keep him around?

 

[Sportster 72]

Sweat is on pace for 6 sacks. I am paying Payne. No clue about Young until he gets healthy.

 

[kbso83432]

So signing Payne depends on the Wentz contract? Is it even a debate?
I guess I thought it was a forgone conclusion that Wentz would be released in the offseason. Maybe Rivera believes in him and wants to keep him around?

Keim didn't say that everything hinged on that. He did bring up Chase and Sweat being due. Combed the 2023 free agent list. Would you rather bring back Payne or sign Quinten Nelson the stud guard from Indy?

 

[Sportster 72]

I'd rather not have to pay Jackson $9 million in dead cap money.

Nelson and Payne are about the same age.

Who are you going to have at QB next year? Take away two YOLO balls and it is not close who the better QB has been. I might add I don't really want either of them.

 

[kbso83432]

I'd rather not have to pay Jackson $9 million in dead cap money.

Nelson and Payne are about the same age.

Who are you going to have at QB next year? Take away two YOLO balls and it is not close who the better QB has been. I might add I don't really want either of them.

You watch more college football than me. I know Duke is down on Hooker. What are your thoughts on Hooker and Richardson?

 

[duke1861]

You watch more college football than me. I know Duke is down on Hooker. What are your thoughts on Hooker and Richardson?

As a Vols fan, I love Hendon Hooker.

That being said, he is a college QB in a gimmick offense from Josh Heupel. I do not see him as an NFL QB.

 

[skinsdad62]

So signing Payne depends on the Wentz contract? Is it even a debate?
I guess I thought it was a forgone conclusion that Wentz would be released in the offseason. Maybe Rivera believes in him and wants to keep him around?

no it isnt , what it is , is that they wont be able to go on a FA signing spree, the cap will increase a lot

 

[Breed]

Sweat is on pace for 6 sacks. I am paying Payne. No clue about Young until he gets healthy.

Sweat doesn't have a lotta sacks, but only Nick Bosa, 20 QB hits, has more hits on QBs than Sweat who's tied with the Pats Judon with 19 QB hits. Payne is 11th n Allen 21st in the ranking. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/defense.htm#defense::sacks

NFL leaders in tackles for a loss. Allen is 3rd, Payne 4th and Sweat 31st. NFL Football Player Stats & Stats Leaders - Tackles For Loss

 

[skinsdad62]

Sweat doesn't have a lotta sacks, but only Nick Bosa, 20 QB hits, has more hits on QBs than Sweat who's tied with the Pats Judon with 19 QB hits. Payne is 11th n Allen 21st in the ranking. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/defense.htm#defense::sacks

NFL leaders in tackles for a loss. Allen is 3rd, Payne 4th and Sweat 31st. NFL Football Player Stats & Stats Leaders - Tackles For Loss

so lets break that up ? that is what people advocate

 

[kbso83432]

so lets break that up ? that is what people advocate

I really want to see how this plays out. I want to see what this defense looks Iike with Chase on the outside, Mathis in-between Allen and Payne, and a corner taken in the 2nd round. I'm actually good moving forward with Davis and Cole.

 

[gkekoa]

Give Wentz the defense that TH has been given

The defense doesn’t mysteriously make Wentz overcome his shortcomings.

 

[deanpet21]

The defense doesn’t mysteriously make Wentz overcome his shortcomings.

no but it will put him in better situations. Not have to come from behind every game.

 

[gkekoa]

no but it will put him in better situations. Not have to come from behind every game.

He wouldn’t have to come from behind if he scored before the second half.

 

[duke1861]

He wouldn’t have to come from behind if he scored before the second half.

It is pointless gkekoa. Dean blamed the receivers and OLine when Wentz lost. They have mailgically played better under Falco now.

 

[skinz2winz]

I really want to see how this plays out. I want to see what this defense looks Iike with Chase on the outside, Mathis in-between Allen and Payne, and a corner taken in the 2nd round. I'm actually good moving forward with Davis and Cole.

Good moving forward with Davis & Holcomb? My goodness we need an absolute upgrade at ILB.

 

[skinz2winz]

no but it will put him in better situations. Not have to come from behind every game.

The closets thing we have to a QB on this roster is Howell. Wentz is done and happy feet cannot see over the LOS. 5 batted balls Sunday. That is 5 dead plays with zero result. TH is limited as we all know, decent story and back up material. IF this team had a REAL QB we would see a better functioning offense all around. Give that REAL QB an inovative OC and you have something. Something we still need going into year 4 of RR & Co.