The Golden State Warriors are NOTHING Without.....

[Yo Tee]

Actually, the Warriors have 1 title without Steve Kerr.

Well I was talking recent success. And if you wanna go back in the day, they actually have 2 NBA titles without Kerr. 55-56 and 75-75.

 

[Yo Tee]

They also blew a commanding 3-1 lead w/o KD. And while KD needed the Warriors to get that 1st elusive ring if they would have had him for the '16 Finals they wouldn't have let that lead slip right through their fingers.

Agreed. KD definitely makes it much easier for the Warriors to win an NBA title. No doubt about it.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Busted...all in good fun I assume...lol

Yep. I just enjoy busting balls. What can I say? I'm an asshole.

No, I think he really hates me lol.

Not true.

Really? You think so...huh.

He might hate on your online persona, and you've ruffled some feathers around here on occasion, but he doesn't even know you.

I'm not sure I can think of someone I hate in real life. That takes a lot of energy. I can't imagine anyone online eliciting hate from me.

Well, by hate me I mean the online persona that he interacts with lol

I'm sure if we shared some brews in a bar or something we'd be fine.

Oh yeah, we'd be fine. Much better than on tHoop. Unless, of course, you have as much difficulty expressing your your thoughts with the spoken word as you do the written. . .

 

[Wamu]

Agreed. KD definitely makes it much easier for the Warriors to win an NBA title. No doubt about it.

I just want someone to dethrone the Warriors. Sadly I don't see that happening.

 

[Yo Tee]

I just want someone to dethrone the Warriors. Sadly I don't see that happening.

I do as well. I honestly don't care who it is. I'd like it to be somewhere LeBron isn't but I don't see that happening either.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

My only point was that Steve Kerr owns a lot of the success that this current Warriors team has. Jackson did the grunt work but wasn't able to do anything with the same talent that Kerr has. That's all that I'm saying. Steve Kerr comes around and so do the titles.

Honestly, idk if the Warriors win the 3 they have without KD. They won 1 without him so that makes me think they can win another without him. That's a good question.

For the most part I agree with this...but I don't think that comment lines up with the thread title.

I'm with you on Kerr vs Jackson, I don't think anyone is disputing that. The star players had a little more experience when Kerr took over but he got a LOT more out of them than Jackson did.

Where I push back on this thread is that Kerr was the be all, cure all for the 3 titles they have.

KD...imo, he changed the Warriors from primarily a 3 shooting team, to a squad that can win in a variety of ways. If you take him off the roster they are still a very good team, Klay's scoring would probably increase, but KD was money in the playoffs averaging nearly 30 a gm.

Because the east is so weak, I think they could win a title without KD, but I'm not sure if they could get out of the west especially if KD joins LJ in LA.

 

[logic]

Well I was talking recent success. And if you wanna go back in the day, they actually have 2 NBA titles without Kerr. 55-56 and 75-75.

And while I somewhat agree with you that Steve Kerr does deserve some credit for the Warriors success, I don't think it is as huge as you make it.

Is he head and shoulders over Mark Jackson--sure, he got more out of his players.

But could many other good coaches have done the same? Probably.

You think, Pop couldn't have won a ring with this talent? Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, Larry Brown?

Even with Kerr out Luke was able to continue his success as others have pointed out.

I agree Kerr is a good coach, but like all the rings Phil has, it certainly helps you look like a great coach when you have top talent.

 

[Wamu]

I do as well. I honestly don't care who it is. I'd like it to be somewhere LeBron isn't but I don't see that happening either.

The LeBron led Lakers goal this year should be to get back to the playoffs, maybe win a series depending where they finish in the standings. I don't see them challenging the Warriors this year though.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Actually, the Warriors have 1 title without Steve Kerr.

Al Attles (sp) right?

 

[Wamu]

Anyone else think Melo will be an All Star this year?

 

[trojanfan12]

The LeBron led Lakers goal this year should be to get back to the playoffs, maybe win a series depending where they finish in the standings. I don't see them challenging the Warriors this year though.

Exactly. This team will likely be good enough to hang around with the Warriors and maybe even steal a game if they were to meet in the playoffs.

But actually having a shot at beating them? They've got a ways to go for that.

 

[logic]

Anyone else think Melo will be an All Star this year?

Why settle for allstar? Melo for MVP!

 

[Wamu]

Exactly. This team will likely be good enough to hang around with the Warriors and maybe even steal a game if they were to meet in the playoffs.

But actually having a shot at beating them? They've got a ways to go for that.

The only person that doesn't understand what the Lakers wanna accomplish this year is wiggy. And I hope he doesn't say all season long LeBron's legacy will take a hit if he doesn't return to the Finals.

 

[Wamu]

Why settle for allstar? Melo for MVP!

 

[Wamu]

@SlinkyRedfoot

I miss Rizzi's. Can you send me a pepperoni & mushroom pizza?

 

[Yo Tee]

For the most part I agree with this...but I don't think that comment lines up with the thread title.

I'm with you on Kerr vs Jackson, I don't think anyone is disputing that. The star players had a little more experience when Kerr took over but he got a LOT more out of them than Jackson did.

Where I push back on this thread is that Kerr was the be all, cure all for the 3 titles they have.

KD...imo, he changed the Warriors from primarily a 3 shooting team, to a squad that can win in a variety of ways. If you take him off the roster they are still a very good team, Klay's scoring would probably increase, but KD was money in the playoffs averaging nearly 30 a gm.

Because the east is so weak, I think they could win a title without KD, but I'm not sure if they could get out of the west especially if KD joins LJ in LA.

I do think all of the recent success falls on Steve Kerr. However, if you were to take Steph or KD away right now, I do think that the Warriors would not be as good as they are right now. BUT! Steph being as good as he is, Klay being as good as he is and the fact that KD joined the Warriors is, in my opinion, all in part to Steve Kerr's coaching and the quick success he brought to the team.

KD and LeBron in LA are unstoppable. Arguably the best 2 players in the league right now on the same team? Holy shit dude, can you imagine?

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

@SlinkyRedfoot

I miss Rizzi's. Can you send me a pepperoni & mushroom pizza?

Holy shit! You are not going to believe this, buddy...

I was just on the phone with Mrs. Redfoot discussing if we wanted to grill tonight. We're both kind of tired so she said, what it we just order pizza?

Slinky: I'd do pizza for sure. We haven't gotten Rizzi's in a while.

Mrs Redfoot: That sounds great.

Then I check you post and couldn't believe it.

Rizzi's is pretty damn good. There's also a place that opened up at the corner of Market and Sand Run called Pavona's that is really good, but it doesn't travel well so we only eat it there and we're lazy today.

 

[Wamu]

However, if you were to take Steph or KD away right now, I do think that the Warriors would not be as good as they are right now.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

@SlinkyRedfoot

I miss Rizzi's. Can you send me a pepperoni & mushroom pizza?

I wonder if I ordered one, froze it and then FedEx'ed to you in the winter if it would work.

 

[Wamu]

Holy shit! You are not going to believe this, buddy...

I was just on the phone with Mrs. Redfoot discussing if we wanted to grill tonight. We're both kind of tired so she said, what it we just order pizza?

Slinky: I'd do pizza for sure. We haven't gotten Rizzi's in a while.

Mrs Redfoot: That sounds great.

Then I check you post and couldn't believe it.

Rizzi's is pretty damn good. There's also a place that opened up at the corner of Market and Sand Run called Pavona's that is really good, but it doesn't travel well so we only eat it there and we're lazy today.

The pizza & fried chicken places out here suck. And for some odd reason people piss themselves w/ happiness every year because the leaves turn yellow. One fucking color? Well whoop-de-do.