The Golden State Warriors are NOTHING Without.....

[Yo Tee]

STEVE KERR.

Yes, The Golden State Warriors are not 3 time NBA Champions without their Head Coach, Steve Kerr.

Stephan Curry joined the Warriors in 09-10. Klay Thompson in 11-12 and Draymond Green in 12-13. In the years from 09-10 until Steve Kerr joined as head coach in 2014-15, which was 6 seasons, the Golden State Warriors had 2 playoff appearances, 1 playoff series win and 2 years with more than 40 wins. But, since Steve Kerr joined in 2014-15, the Warriors have gone to 4 straight NBA finals, won 3 of them and have had no less than 58 wins in each of the last 4 years.

Every last bit of the success the Warriors have had as of late belongs to Steve Kerr. Yes, Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and the rest of the Warriors starters are key players, but the Warriors had Steph for 5 years and Klay for 2 years before they started winning anything substantial. Without Steve Kerr, the Golden State Warriors are still meddling in the 6th, 7th and 8th seed of the Western Conference.

 

[Gman]

 

[CitySushi]

In other news: Water is wet.

 

[Yo Tee]

In other news: Water is wet.

Well, if you speak with some people, Steph Curry is the godsend of Golden State Basketball. I just think that's media fed and uneducated to say the least. The Warriors were a bottom of the barrel team the first 3 years Steph was in the league. Most people forget that.

 

[msgkings322]

Well, if you speak with some people, Steph Curry is the godsend of Golden State Basketball. I just think that's media fed and uneducated to say the least. The Warriors were a bottom of the barrel team the first 3 years Steph was in the league. Most people forget that.

Yep, and Michael Jordan wasn't worth a shit until Phil Jackson got him some rings.

 

[tlance]

Well, if you speak with some people, Steph Curry is the godsend of Golden State Basketball. I just think that's media fed and uneducated to say the least. The Warriors were a bottom of the barrel team the first 3 years Steph was in the league. Most people forget that.

Just about every superstar gets drafted by a bottom feeder. It takes time to turn that around. Kerr has played a large role in making this team what it is, but he is much easier to replace than any of Curry, Klay or Dray. And that is fact.

 

[Yo Tee]

Yep, and Michael Jordan wasn't worth a shit until Phil Jackson got him some rings.

Incorrect. As soon as Michael Jordan was drafted by the Bulls, he turned that Bulls team into a perennial Playoff team. The Bulls went from 27-55 the last year without MJ, to a 38 win team and a team that was a playoff guarantee for the next 14 years. MJ was an MVP 2 years before Jackson showed up. The Bulls were going to Conference finals before Jackson showed up. It was the hire of Phil Jackson that pushed the Bulls up to that next level. The Warriors weren't shit, could barely win a playoff series, before Steve Kerr.

 

[msgkings322]

Incorrect. As soon as Michael Jordan was drafted by the Bulls, he turned that Bulls team into a perennial Playoff team. The Bulls went from 27-55 the last year without MJ, to a 38 win team and a team that was a playoff guarantee for the next 14 years. MJ was an MVP 2 years before Jackson showed up. The Bulls were going to Conference finals before Jackson showed up. It was the hire of Phil Jackson that pushed the Bulls up to that next level. The Warriors weren't shit, could barely win a playoff series, before Steve Kerr.

Oh dear. Um, sure.

 

[CitySushi]

Well, if you speak with some people, Steph Curry is the godsend of Golden State Basketball. I just think that's media fed and uneducated to say the least. The Warriors were a bottom of the barrel team the first 3 years Steph was in the league. Most people forget that.

Yes, but you also forget that he had a major ankle injury that affected him for nearly two years. Steph Curry is the godsend of Warriors basketball. Without him Steve Kerr could not have built the offense he runs. Without Curry bringing the defense 5 feet beyond the 3 point line every time he has the ball, the dynamic of the offense changes entirely. Look at his on/off splits even to this day.

Curry has revolutionized the game. What Kerr has done was help maximize his efficiency and the spots he puts him in to succeed. Also it was actually Mark Jackson that untapped Curry's potential too. I give Jackson shit because I think he was a terrible coach, but I always give him his due with Curry and Klay. He allowed them to go out and make mistakes and to give them the confidence they have today to play.

Everyone thinks Curry is a product of the system, when in fact he IS the system.

 

[CitySushi]

Incorrect. As soon as Michael Jordan was drafted by the Bulls, he turned that Bulls team into a perennial Playoff team. The Bulls went from 27-55 the last year without MJ, to a 38 win team and a team that was a playoff guarantee for the next 14 years. MJ was an MVP 2 years before Jackson showed up. The Bulls were going to Conference finals before Jackson showed up. It was the hire of Phil Jackson that pushed the Bulls up to that next level. The Warriors weren't shit, could barely win a playoff series, before Steve Kerr.

Except you're wrong. The Warriors made the playoffs in 2013 and 2014, both without Kerr as a coach. The Warriors in 2013 actually went to the 2nd round of the playoffs as a 6th seed and won 2 games against the Spurs who lost that year in 7 games in the finals.

In 2014 they lost in the first round to a Clippers team in 7 games after suffering major injuries to their team, most notably David Lee and Andrew Bogut.

Steph was hurt in the 2011-12 season with a major injury. The following year he lead them to the 2nd round of the playoffs. So Curry was winning already, despite having a shit coach. That actually helps his case more than it hurts it.

 

[Ojb81]

STEVE KERR.

Yes, The Golden State Warriors are not 3 time NBA Champions without their Head Coach, Steve Kerr.

Stephan Curry joined the Warriors in 09-10. Klay Thompson in 11-12 and Draymond Green in 12-13. In the years from 09-10 until Steve Kerr joined as head coach in 2014-15, which was 6 seasons, the Golden State Warriors had 2 playoff appearances, 1 playoff series win and 2 years with more than 40 wins. But, since Steve Kerr joined in 2014-15, the Warriors have gone to 4 straight NBA finals, won 3 of them and have had no less than 58 wins in each of the last 4 years.

Every last bit of the success the Warriors have had as of late belongs to Steve Kerr. Yes, Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and the rest of the Warriors starters are key players, but the Warriors had Steph for 5 years and Klay for 2 years before they started winning anything substantial. Without Steve Kerr, the Golden State Warriors are still meddling in the 6th, 7th and 8th seed of the Western Conference.

mmmmmyeah. Kerr is great and all, but you're ridiculous if you think the Warriors would still be a "middling 6th or 7th seed team" with the team as it is now assembled, minus Kerr, after all these seasons. Maybe they don't win 3 titles out of four, but theyre definitely still going to be one of the best teams in the league. Let's not forget that it was Mark Jackson who was the one to originally reverse the culture of garbage that Golden State was accustomed to, for decades.

 

[Yo Tee]

Just about every superstar gets drafted by a bottom feeder. It takes time to turn that around. Kerr has played a large role in making this team what it is, but he is much easier to replace than any of Curry, Klay or Dray. And that is fact.

Tell that to teams like the Sacramento Kings. 12 straight years with a pick in the first 8 spots and they haven't gotten any better. They are no better now than what they were 10-12 years ago. Same with the Phoenix Suns. 3 straight years with a top 4 draft pick and they've gotten progressively worse each year. Sometimes it doesn't matter what talent you have on the court, but what talent you have coaching the talent you have on the court.

 

[CitySushi]

Incorrect. As soon as Michael Jordan was drafted by the Bulls, he turned that Bulls team into a perennial Playoff team. The Bulls went from 27-55 the last year without MJ, to a 38 win team and a team that was a playoff guarantee for the next 14 years. MJ was an MVP 2 years before Jackson showed up. The Bulls were going to Conference finals before Jackson showed up. It was the hire of Phil Jackson that pushed the Bulls up to that next level. The Warriors weren't shit, could barely win a playoff series, before Steve Kerr.

Also LOL, Jordan didn't even have a winning record until his 4th year in the league. Go check out the first year Steph Curry had a winning year in the NBA? Guess what, it was his 4th year.

Dude do a little research first, lol.

 

[Yo Tee]

Except you're wrong. The Warriors made the playoffs in 2013 and 2014, both without Kerr as a coach. The Warriors in 2013 actually went to the 2nd round of the playoffs as a 6th seed and won 2 games against the Spurs who lost that year in 7 games in the finals.

In 2014 they lost in the first round to a Clippers team in 7 games after suffering major injuries to their team, most notably David Lee and Andrew Bogut.

Steph was hurt in the 2011-12 season with a major injury. The following year he lead them to the 2nd round of the playoffs. So Curry was winning already, despite having a shit coach. That actually helps his case more than it hurts it.

The Warriors were nothing until Steve Kerr entered the building. Steph Curry was winning? You call winning 1 playoff series already winning? What about the 3 years prior? Yes, the Warriors got much better when Steph came back from injury, but they were nowhere near as good before Kerr came into town. Let me also be clear and say that I am in no way shape or form saying that Steph or Klay or Draymond are not good or anything like that. All I'm saying is that in my opinion, Steve Kerr is the most important person to the success of the Golden State Warriors.

 

[Ojb81]

Oh dear. Um, sure.

 

[Yo Tee]

Also LOL, Jordan didn't even have a winning record until his 4th year in the league. Go check out the first year Steph Curry had a winning year in the NBA? Guess what, it was his 4th year.

Dude do a little research first, lol.

MJ was making the playoffs in his rookie year and for EVERY single year after that, including reaching an Eastern Conference final. Steph wasn't making the playoffs til his 4th year and still wasn't winning shit until Kerr came in. No Kerr, No Championships. Steph's rookie year, the Warriors win 3 less games than the year before. MJ comes in and does a 11 win turnaround in his rookie year.

 

[Yo Tee]

mmmmmyeah. Kerr is great and all, but you're ridiculous if you think the Warriors would still be a "middling 6th or 7th seed team" with the team as it is now assembled, minus Kerr, after all these seasons. Maybe they don't win 3 titles out of four, but theyre definitely still going to be one of the best teams in the league. Let's not forget that it was Mark Jackson who was the one to originally reverse the culture of garbage that Golden State was accustomed to, for decades.

The Golden State Warriors maybe win 1 title without Steve Kerr. MAYBE.

 

[CitySushi]

MJ was making the playoffs in his rookie year and for EVERY single year after that, including reaching an Eastern Conference final. Steph wasn't making the playoffs til his 4th year and still wasn't winning shit until Kerr came in. No Kerr, No Championships. Steph's rookie year, the Warriors win 3 less games than the year before. MJ comes in and does a 11 win turnaround in his rookie year.

Well ok, Jordan made the playoffs with a 30-52 record. Seriously. 30 Wins. You call that successful? Steph's team actually won more games in his 2nd year than Jordan did in his second year.

 

[Yo Tee]

Well ok, Jordan made the playoffs with a 30-52 record. Seriously. 30 Wins. You call that successful? Steph's team actually won more games in his 2nd year than Jordan did in his second year.

MJ's before Phil Jackson: 3 losing seasons, 5 playoff appearances, 3 playoff series wins, 1 Conference Final, 1 MVP
Steph's before Steve Kerr: 3 losing seasons, 2 playoff appearances, 1 playoff series win

Wins and losses don't really matter. What matters is the success that they have brought to their teams and MJ brought a hell of a lot more success to the Bulls before Jackson than Steph was able to do before Kerr. The real success of the Warriors didn't start until Kerr was the coach. The Warriors couldn't make it past the 6th seed in the West or the 2nd round of the playoffs before Kerr was the coach.

 

[Ojb81]

The Golden State Warriors maybe win 1 title without Steve Kerr. MAYBE.

We get it, Terry. You can only go so long in between your "hot takes". You wanna be the board's Skip Bayless. Whatever gets you by, man.