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I would like to see some proof of that. Miami is not Notre Dame. They fell off the map and do not have the national appeal to hold them afloat. This is why the Hokies are asked to play in things like the Chick fil A classic, and the season opener against Boise last year. This is why, if we are an also-ran in the ACC, we are immediately snatched up by the bowl with the first choice. Miami is not as impactful as you think they are. If you have some numbers to prove me wrong, and show Miami being "10x as much of a draw" as the Hokies, I will happily concede your point.

If I am not mistaken in ESPNs history of broadcasting CFB, Miami has been in 5 or 6 of the top 10 rated games. It seems that more often than not when Miami comes to town an attendance record is set (even though we don't set any records in our stadium).
 

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If I am not mistaken in ESPNs history of broadcasting CFB, Miami has been in 5 or 6 of the top 10 rated games. It seems that more often than not when Miami comes to town an attendance record is set (even though we don't set any records in our stadium).

I guess this is somewhat besides the point, but Miami actually returned some of its ticket allotment to VT for this year's game. I can't ever remember Miami doing that for a game in Blacksburg. Might be fan malaise because of the scandal?
 

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I guess this is somewhat besides the point, but Miami actually returned some of its ticket allotment to VT for this year's game. I can't ever remember Miami doing that for a game in Blacksburg. Might be fan malaise because of the scandal?

That sucks. I got four tickets for the VT game for a friend of mine.. I did my part ;-)
 

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To be fair, VT hasn't exactly drawn national names in BCS bowls with Kansas and Cincy. Big deal. So you're telling me you'd rather have a few more people watch you go 6-6, 7-5 every year versus having a few less people watch you win 10 games seven straight seasons?

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More people have watched Miami win National Champioships.
Thing is Miami draws alot of attention...why?

Because when Miami did dominate, They were not getting beat by teams like James Madsion. They were not losing 3 or 4 games a year and still winning a championship. No, When Miami Dominated, they DOMINATED.

I give Virginia Tech all the credit and the respect they deserve. I love when we play but heres some facts about your "dominance"

2010: Won the ACC and lost to James Madison U. Alot of heat gets drawn here because of the fact that you "dominated" the ACC but yet lost to a FCS school AT HOME.

2009: Lost to ACC schools UNC and GT, GT went on to win the ACC

2008: Won the ACC, Lost to East Carolina, lost to ACC schools Miami, Boston College and Florida St. Even with a bad ooc loss and 3 losses in the ACC VT won the conference. Sorry thats not dominating, thats called everyone beating the shit out of everyone else.

Yes VT has done very good in the ACC. I just dont see them dominating as you say.

You want to run off to the SEC?

Go

run

see how well you can DOMINATE in the SEC
 

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on tv they do. most likely becAuse most wAnt to wAtch them lose? either wAy, A much bigger drAw thAn VT.

PS: how mAny NCs you guys got? pretty sure 2 teAms in the ACC from floridA hAve more now thAn VT will ever hAve. keep cArrying thAt flAg, tho

LOL! How about some more of your "facts" CM.
 

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Army's got one too while we're talking about ancient history. :brick:

ok, current history. the cAnes hAve one in the 2000s (As well As the 90s And 80s....thAts 3 decAdes strAight). how 'bout them hokie pokies?
 

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Fact #1

More people have watched Miami win National Champioships.
Thing is Miami draws alot of attention...why?

Because when Miami did dominate, They were not getting beat by teams like James Madsion. They were not losing 3 or 4 games a year and still winning a championship. No, When Miami Dominated, they DOMINATED.

I give Virginia Tech all the credit and the respect they deserve. I love when we play but heres some facts about your "dominance"

2010: Won the ACC and lost to James Madison U. Alot of heat gets drawn here because of the fact that you "dominated" the ACC but yet lost to a FCS school AT HOME.

2009: Lost to ACC schools UNC and GT, GT went on to win the ACC

2008: Won the ACC, Lost to East Carolina, lost to ACC schools Miami, Boston College and Florida St. Even with a bad ooc loss and 3 losses in the ACC VT won the conference. Sorry thats not dominating, thats called everyone beating the shit out of everyone else.

Yes VT has done very good in the ACC. I just dont see them dominating as you say.

You want to run off to the SEC?

Go

run

see how well you can DOMINATE in the SEC

Fact -- VT could win just as many national titles as Miami if it had boosters like Nevin Shapiro and Luther Campbell.

Fact -- Miami's "domination" in its last championship year included a 26-24 win over VT that included a dropped 2-point pass at the end. That was with a team of paid professionals barely beating a team with Grant Noel at quarterback, who completed more passes to Miami than Virginia Tech that day.

Fact -- Miami hasn't brought anything to the ACC other than a name.
 

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Fact #1

More people have watched Miami win National Champioships.
Thing is Miami draws alot of attention...why?

Because when Miami did dominate, They were not getting beat by teams like James Madsion. They were not losing 3 or 4 games a year and still winning a championship. No, When Miami Dominated, they DOMINATED.

I give Virginia Tech all the credit and the respect they deserve. I love when we play but heres some facts about your "dominance"

2010: Won the ACC and lost to James Madison U. Alot of heat gets drawn here because of the fact that you "dominated" the ACC but yet lost to a FCS school AT HOME.

2009: Lost to ACC schools UNC and GT, GT went on to win the ACC

2008: Won the ACC, Lost to East Carolina, lost to ACC schools Miami, Boston College and Florida St. Even with a bad ooc loss and 3 losses in the ACC VT won the conference. Sorry thats not dominating, thats called everyone beating the shit out of everyone else.

Yes VT has done very good in the ACC. I just dont see them dominating as you say.

You want to run off to the SEC?

Go

run

see how well you can DOMINATE in the SEC

the only teAm thAt would bug me leAving the ACC would be FSU.

do you suppose the hokies will sue miAmi AgAin if they dont get An ehCC invite? I meAn their progrAm cAme to life on the coAt tAils of the U. thAts sue worthy, no?
 

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We came to life on the tail end of your Luther Campbell generation, in spite of you, not because of you. You won a few titles with a team making more than the Bills di. Fantastic...

Our success has zero to do with you. Try and stay above .500 in the ACC if you can, ok.

National titles of the past do not legitimize the garbage that you put on the field nowdays. You are NOT Notre Dame.
 

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the only teAm thAt would bug me leAving the ACC would be FSU.

do you suppose the hokies will sue miAmi AgAin if they dont get An ehCC invite? I meAn their progrAm cAme to life on the coAt tAils of the U. thAts sue worthy, no?

It's funny that you say that considering the SEC has shown zero interest in your dead program.
 

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I wish the SEC could get VT & FSU, but drop A&M.

14 teams are enough.
 

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Fact -- VT could win just as many national titles as Miami if it had boosters like Nevin Shapiro and Luther Campbell.

Fact -- Miami's "domination" in its last championship year included a 26-24 win over VT that included a dropped 2-point pass at the end. That was with a team of paid professionals barely beating a team with Grant Noel at quarterback, who completed more passes to Miami than Virginia Tech that day.

Fact -- Miami hasn't brought anything to the ACC other than a name.

FACT miAmi couldnt win An NC with shApiro either, mAroon. he cAme Around 1 yeAr AFTER our lAst NC

FACT: you hAve no fActs

FACT; miAmis dominAtion includes undefeAted seAsons And NCS. VT?

FACT: you still whining About thAt gAme is worse thAn UM fAns WhInIng abOUt thE Rain
 

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FACT miAmi couldnt win An NC with shApiro either, mAroon. he cAme Around 1 yeAr AFTER our lAst NC

FACT: you hAve no fActs

FACT; miAmis dominAtion includes undefeAted seAsons And NCS. VT?

FACT: you still whining About thAt gAme is worse thAn UM fAns WhInIng abOUt thE Rain

Good Point.....

Your 2LiveCrew booster was better than Nevi Shapiro. How many national titles and undefeated season are you actually proud of.
 

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FACT miAmi couldnt win An NC with shApiro either, mAroon. he cAme Around 1 yeAr AFTER our lAst NC

FACT: you hAve no fActs

FACT; miAmis dominAtion includes undefeAted seAsons And NCS. VT?

FACT: you still whining About thAt gAme is worse thAn UM fAns WhInIng abOUt thE Rain

Laughing would be more appropriate than whining. Just think about it. The fact that the national champion, and by most accounts one of the best teams in college football history, limped off the field with a 2-point win against an 8-4 VT team with Grant Noel at QB is akin to Mike Tyson in his prime needing a split decision to beat a 12-year-old crippled kid.

And lots of players from that team were included in the yahoo report. You really think Miami was dirty as hell throughout the 80s and 90s, and from 2002-2010, but took a break to be squeaky clean during the Butch Davis/Larry Coker days? Allllllllllllllll-righty then.
 
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