Wide Receiver Options (Free Agency/Draft)

[PolarVortex]

I think it speaks volumes that you have to pull a Hall of Famer out as the last example of this style being sustainable.



Not unreasonable. 4 and 5 can be had in FA, probably (relatively) inexpensively. If we take the BPA from OL/WR/TE with our first two picks (depending on how FA shakes out), I'd be happy.

Has nothing to do with Tarkenton being a HOFer. People have been comparing Wilson to Tarkenton since his first mini-camp.

 

[gowazzu02]

I would love to have a nice TE in the draft, but unfortunately if we dont address Oline, the new TE will do all the old TES did. block.....

But not having Cooper Helfet catching and dropping passes will be nice next year.

 

[BHF]

Has nothing to do with Tarkenton being a HOFer. People have been comparing Wilson to Tarkenton since his first mini-camp.

Okay, how about it speaks volumes that you have to go back 40 years to find an example where that kind of passing game was sustainable?

 

[BHF]

I would love to have a nice TE in the draft, but unfortunately if we dont address Oline, the new TE will do all the old TES did. block.....

But not having Cooper Helfet catching and dropping passes will be nice next year.

True, but having a big target working underneath will give Wilson a dump off option, and will be another weapon on the scramble drills.

 

[Logicallylethal]

WRs should be about 4th or 5th on the priority list right now. The strength of the team does not necessitate a strong WR corps.

Oh I don't think WR is a dire need by any stretch at all. But it is a position that we should look to improve. We don't necessarily need an elite receiver, just someone who is reliable and gets open on crucial third downs, a game breaker, or a red zone threat.

WR is 2nd or 3rd priority for me.

I wouldn't include resigning Russell or Wagner on the list because that will take care of itself. I don't envision any scenario where John and Pete doesn't resign these guys.

1) Offensive Line
2) Wide Receiver
3) Cornerback Depth
4) Tight End
5) Kick Return/Punt Return Specialist

 

[blstoker]

I think it speaks volumes that you have to pull a Hall of Famer out as the last example of this style being sustainable.

Of course it speaks volumes, guys with great mobility and passing talent who can sustain it long term usually end up in the Hall. Tarkenton, Favre, Young just off the top of my head. Cunningham is a good example of someone who injuries caught up to him.

 

[BHF]

Of course it speaks volumes, guys with great mobility and passing talent who can sustain it long term usually end up in the Hall. Tarkenton, Favre, Young just off the top of my head. Cunningham is a good example of someone who injuries caught up to him.

Youngs career was ended by concussions, and Favre is a big reach. Wilson has already rushed for more yards in his career than he did.

 

[PolarVortex]

Okay, how about it speaks volumes that you have to go back 40 years to find an example where that kind of passing game was sustainable?

Alright, since you don't like the comparison to Tarrkenton then why don't you explain why Wilson can not sustain what he has already been doing for the first three years or his career, with a sub-average OL in two of those three years?

 

[BHF]

Alright, since you don't like the comparison to Tarrkenton then why don't you explain why Wilson can not sustain what he has already been doing for the first three years or his career, with a sub-average OL in two of those three years?

Because eventually he's going to slow down and not be able to extend the plays the way he has, because we aren't going to have this rushing attack forever, because our defense will eventually come back to Earth. So that means more passing, more running around, and (statically speaking) the constant scrambling is going to get him injured.

He's not going to be 25 forever.

 

[PolarVortex]

Because eventually he's going to slow down and not be able to extend the plays the way he has, because we aren't going to have this rushing attack forever, because our defense will eventually come back to Earth. So that means more passing, more running around, and (statically speaking) the constant scrambling is going to get him injured.

He's not going to be 25 forever.

So, you're talking about a skill/strength he currently possesses that might be gone 6 or 7 years from now. That's what you mean be not sustainable? Yeah, obviously, but we aren't talking about the 2021 or 2022 season. We are talking about next season.

 

[Logicallylethal]

I don't doubt that Russell can be productive well into his 30s, my only concern (and I'm sure others share the same sentiments as well) is that his body won't be able to handle it.

If this is going to be our franchise quarterback then we're going to have to protect him and keep him injury free. Russell was hit hard quite a few more times than I'd like to see him hit this season. Of any of those many, many, many hits he has absorbed he could have easily come up hobbled, sprained something, or hurt in some way.

He has been and we have been very fortunate to have had Russell injury free (*knock on wood). We can't keep playing with fire and expecting Russell to be superhuman. One small injury could mean missing the playoffs. 1-2 games in a season could be the difference between home field or no home field.

 

[BHF]

So, you're talking about a skill/strength he currently possesses that might be gone 6 or 7 years from now. That's what you mean be not sustainable? Yeah, obviously, but we aren't talking about the 2021 or 2022 season. We are talking about next season.

No, his mobility could be gone tomorrow with one bad break. That defense and running game should start to degrade in another season or two.

Listen, Wilson can't consistently operate out of the pocket. And it's not because of any lack of ability on his part, but because our WRs can't get open unless it's a broken play. The book is out on our passing game. Rush four, spy one, man up the receivers, and drop the safeties (or flood the short zone with LBs and use the safeties in coverage). None of our WRs can beat that, and the passing numbers fell through the floor. That's just going to continue, and we can't count on miraculous plays from #3 each week.

 

[PolarVortex]

No, his mobility could be gone tomorrow with one bad break. That defense and running game should start to degrade in another season or two.

Listen, Wilson can't consistently operate out of the pocket. And it's not because of any lack of ability on his part, but because our WRs can't get open unless it's a broken play. The book is out on our passing game. Rush four, spy one, man up the receivers, and drop the safeties (or flood the short zone with LBs and use the safeties in coverage). None of our WRs can beat that, and the passing numbers fell through the floor. That's just going to continue, and we can't count on miraculous plays from #3 each week.

Any player could lose his mobility with one bad break, you don't plan for it beyond gathering a complimentary set of 2nd string players who can step in when needed. Otherwise, you don't build a team on theory of injuries you think might happen. That is called fear. Wilson's running and elusiveness, among other factors, has resulted in the best three-year stretch in Seahawk history. To veer away from that now, out of fear of injury, is asinine. It will happen soon enough, when Lynchn is either gone or no longer an elite RB. But as long as he is, you stay the course that has gotten you to two consecutive SBs.

 

[MKHawk]

Any player could lose his mobility with one bad break, you don't plan for it beyond gathering a complimentary set of 2nd string players who can step in when needed. Otherwise, you don't build a team on theory of injuries you think might happen. That is called fear. Wilson's running and elusiveness, among other factors, has resulted in the best three-year stretch in Seahawk history. To veer away from that now, out of fear of injury, is asinine. It will happen soon enough, when Lynchn is either gone or no longer an elite RB. But as long as he is, you stay the course that has gotten you to two consecutive SBs.

They're not going to scrap Wilson's scramble drills from the playbook, but they do have a responsibility to build a balanced team, including a balanced offense, including a non-scramble-drill-functioning passing game.

 

[BHF]

They're not going to scrap Wilson's scramble drills from the playbook, but they do have a responsibility to build a balanced team, including a balanced offense, including a non-scramble-drill-functioning passing game.

*golf clap*

When a huge chunk of your passing strategy is "And then the play breaks down, and Russ pulls a miracle out of his ass..." you have a problem.

You don't remove that feature from the offense. You stop relying on it. Two very different things.

 

[ehwq]

I hoping the Hawks get an OL with the #31 but if Dorial Green-Beckham is still on the board he would be too hard to pass up. Hoping the Hawks can steal him that late.

 

[seattlefan75]

I hoping the Hawks get an OL with the #31 but if Dorial Green-Beckham is still on the board he would be too hard to pass up. Hoping the Hawks can steal him that late.

hell yeah Dorial Green Beckham would be great for this offense but im like 100% sure he isnt going to be on the board when were up after what the rookie WRs have done this season I feel that rookie WRs stock have gone up and teams that are in need to WR talent wouldnt pass up a shot to get the next kelvin benjamin, beckem Jr or Landry.

but having a 6 foot 5 presense for wilson to throw up the ball when matched up against a smaller corner like in the SB would be outstanding. We need another WR I read somewhere that Paul rich might not be ready for the opening season game and I doubt this is the last time he will get hurt again.

 

[RegentDenali]

Kipers 2.0 Mock projects the Seahawks taking WR Phillip Dorsett (Miami - FL) with our 31st pick. He'a burner at 5'10". Not a prototype WO. But still a big play threat.

 

[WizardHawk]

Expected to come in around 4.29 at the combine in the 40. He's fast as shit, but another small/light dude not likely to make it for 16 games plus playoffs without being hurt.

I'm all for verticle threats, but between Richardson and this kid you can't tie up valuable roster spots with so many kids that are this fragile. Can you?

 

[Logicallylethal]

I'm okay with the Seahawks drafting a 4.29 40 speed guy if they sign a Kenny Britt in free agency for a cheap/moderate price.

However if we pass on wrs in free agency then I won't be happy if we go for another frail receiver under 6 foot. A big receiver (or a receiver 6'1 or 6'2 that plays big) is a must for us this off season. Our red zone scoring needs to be a lot better. Giving Russell a serious big threat will help alleviate our red zone issues.