free agency thread 2018

[Stymietee]

In fact, I'm reevaluating every player 29 years of age and older on this roster. (yes that includes Norman). To be clear, my perspective is, I would rather move a player a year or two too early than a year or so too late. In order to keep any player on this team his value must meet or exceed his performance. Even then, his age will be a factor in determining whether he's moved or not.

Now in as much as young guys are concerned, the average age coming out of school is 22. This gives them very few years to push for starting jobs, if they are still projects by year 3, we have a problem that must be addressed. Btw; there are no players worth a shit that don't have becoming a starter at the highest level in mind. Now I realize that a lot of their development relies upon having quality coaches, that too must change, even if I would have to initially overpay for top teachers. Winning costs, there's no real loyalty in this game, we love our favorites, and must be willing to part with them for the sake of paying that cost to win.

 

[Stymietee]

i wouldnt trade RK , i would try to build the team into a competitor

How?

I'm tired of chasing the goal of being a "competitor" I want to win SB's with the goal being everyone else trying to compete with me.

 

[gkekoa]

So let me get this straight...

1- we trade for a 34 year old QB by giving up a third rounder and a second year star.

2- now people are suggesting we build for the future by getting rid of our best players for questionable draft picks.

WTF is wrong with you people.

 

[gkekoa]

We have got to make some cuts to get more cap. Are there any obvious cap casualties? McClain would be one of course. I honestly think we need to cut Reed. He cannot stay healthy. Amazing player but I doubt he plays in 50% of the games next year. We need to trim some fat.

I think you need our need a better understanding of contracts. McClain costs 7 million to cut. He costs 4.7 million to keep.

We are fine cap wise. We were fine cap wise with KC.

 

[duke1861]

So let me get this straight...

1- we trade for a 34 year old QB by giving up a third rounder and a second year star.

2- now people are suggesting we build for the future by getting rid of our best players for questionable draft picks.

WTF is wrong with you people.

I think we should get rid of Reed just because he is constantly injured and I would rather get something for him now instead of having him retire due to concussions.

 

[duke1861]

I think you need our need a better understanding of contracts. McClain costs 7 million to cut. He costs 4.7 million to keep.

We are fine cap wise. We were fine cap wise with KC.

I guess I do, I never claimed to be a cap expert. That is one thing I like about Bruce.

Just out of curiosity, what is your free agent plan/wish list with players and contracts? You haven't put one up like you usually do.

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

We got Alex because Kirk was not coming back I can not wait to March 14 to see his full contract I bet is op is at 2020 that gives us 2 years to find our next QB

 

[gkekoa]

I think we should get rid of Reed just because he is constantly injured and I would rather get something for him now instead of having him retire due to concussions.

Reed’s value is extremely low right now.

His talent outshines his trade value.

 

[gkekoa]

I guess I do, I never claimed to be a cap expert. That is one thing I like about Bruce.

Just out of curiosity, what is your free agent plan/wish list with players and contracts? You haven't put one up like you usually do.

I am still pissed about the trade. I will put out one before the draft but I already know the intelligent route for this team is out the window.

I would look at Jeremy Hill and see what his price is. I can see him being anywhere from 3-8 mil per season. I would bite at the low end. That being said, I would still want RB in round 2because I expect good value there.

At WR, I believe in either getting the best or the best value. In this case, pay for Robinson or Watkins, or hope Moncrief comes at a value. If not, resign Grant and Pryor, and wait til next season.

At TE, I would look at Jenkins.

Resign Spencer Long for 5 mil or less.

Sign Trent Murphy and Kong Ealy if the price is right.

If we go big in DL, it needs to be Wilkerson. Otherwise, draft at 13...better yet, no matter what draft at 13because that is where I see the value.

 

[Stymietee]

So let me get this straight...

1- we trade for a 34 year old QB by giving up a third rounder and a second year star.

2- now people are suggesting we build for the future by getting rid of our best players for questionable draft picks.

WTF is wrong with you people.

You know better than to suggest that one is related to the other from my perspective, and you also know that the guy I wanted here as a replacement for Kirk will be a free agent in a few days.

 

[skinsdad62]

How?

I'm tired of chasing the goal of being a "competitor" I want to win SB's with the goal being everyone else trying to compete with me.

we are a 500 team , the next step is being a competitor . we dont have the team to do that now and giving away assets we have groomed doesnt help . . i have a plan i will come out with very soon but lets be clear , competing for super bowls year in and year out is the goal . sometimes we will win sometimes we wont

 

[skinsdad62]

We got Alex because Kirk was not coming back I can not wait to March 14 to see his full contract I bet is op is at 2020 that gives us 2 years to find our next QB

so grudens stability at qb is just a lie then ?

 

[Stymietee]

Just as a reference point and potential shopping list, here are the listing of top free agents this year by position:

Defense

Edge defender:

1. Julius Peppers
2. William Hayes
3. Trent Murphy
4. Pernell McPhee
5. Aaron Lynch
6. Alex Okafor
7. Adrian Clayborn
8. Kony Ealy
9. Connor Barwin
10. Jeremiah Attaochu
11. Junior Galette
12. Derrick Shelby
13. Barkevious Mingo
14. Kareem Martin
15. Erik Walden

Interior defensive line:

1. Sheldon Richardson
2. Dontari Poe
3. Muhammad Wilkerson
4. Star Lotulelei
5. DaQuan Jones
6. Beau Allen
7. Denico Autry
8. Justin Ellis
9. Tom Johnson
10. Bennie Logan
11. Chris Baker
12. Kyle Williams
13. Dominique Easley
14. Haloti Ngata
15. Alan Branch

Linebacker:

1. Nigel Bradham
2. NaVorro Bowman
3. Zach Brown
4. Preston Brown
5. Anthony Hitchens
6. Demario Davis
7. Paul Posluszny
8. Avery Williamson
9. Tahir Whitehead
10. Todd Davis
11. Derrick Johnson
12. Brian Cushing
13. Devon Kennard
14. Jon Bostic
15. Karlos Dansby

 

[Stymietee]

Just as a reference point and potential shopping list, here are the listing of top free agents this year by position:
Defense: Part #2​

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Cornerback:

1. Trumaine Johnson
2. Malcolm Butler
3. Bashaud Breeland
4. E.J. Gaines
5. Morris Claiborne
6. Aaron Colvin
7. T.J. Carrie
8. Patrick Robinson
9. Nickell Robey-Coleman
10. Prince Amukamara
11. Brent Grimes
12. Rashaan Melvin
13. Ross Cockrell
14. Tramon Williams
15. Johnathan Joseph

Safety:

1. Eric Reid
2. Morgan Burnett
3. Tre Boston
4. Kenny Vaccaro
5. Bradley McDougald
6. Tyvon Branch
7. Marcus Gilchrist
8. Corey Graham
9. Reggie Nelson
10. Darius Butler
11. Quintin Demps
12. T.J. Ward
13. Ron Parker
14. Michael Thomas
15. Tavon Wilson

 

[Stymietee]

Just as a reference point and potential shopping list, here are the listing of top free agents this year by position:

Offense

Quarterback:

1. Kirk Cousins
2. Drew Brees
3. Case Keenum
4. A.J. McCarron
5. Sam Bradford
6. Teddy Bridgewater
7. Colin Kaepernick
8. Josh McCown
9. Mike Glennon
10. Drew Stanton
11. Jay Cutler
12. Chase Daniel
13. Ryan Fitzpatrick
14. Brock Osweiler
15. Tom Savage

Running back:

1. Dion Lewis
2. Carlos Hyde
3. Jerick McKinnon
4. Isaiah Crowell
5. Rex Burkhead
6. Frank Gore
7. Orleans Darkwa
8. Alfred Morris
9. Jeremy Hill
10. Doug Martin
11. LeGarrette Blount
12. Jonathan Stewart
13. Chris Ivory
14. Darren Sproles
15. Andre Ellington

 

[Stymietee]

Just as a reference point and potential shopping list, here are the listing of top free agents this year by position:

Offense Pt#2

Wide receiver:

1. Allen Robinson
2. Sammy Watkins
3. Marqise Lee
4. Danny Amendola
5. Terrelle Pryor
6. Paul Richardson
7. Jordan Matthews
8. Donte Moncrief
9. Jaron Brown
10. John Brown
11. Mike Wallace
12. Taylor Gabriel
13. Albert Wilson
14. Brice Butler
15. Kendall Wright
16. Eric Decker
17. Deonte Thompson

Tight end:

1. Trey Burton
2. Jimmy Graham
3. Tyler Eifert
4. Austin Seferian-Jenkins
5. Virgil Green
6. Antonio Gates
7. Ed Dickson
8. Darren Fells
9. Levine Toilolo
10. Ben Watson
11. Lee Smith
12. Luke Willson
13. Niles Paul
14. Clay Harbor
15. Richard Rodgers

 

[Stymietee]

Just as a reference point and potential shopping list, here are the listing of top free agents this year by position:

Offense Pt. 3

Fullback:

1. Anthony Sherman
2. Zach Line
3. Mike Tolbert
4. John Kuhn
5. Derrick Coleman

Offensive tackle:

1. Nate Solder
2. Cameron Fleming
3. Justin Pugh
4. Chris Hubbard
5. LaAdrian Waddle
6. James Hurst
7. Andre Smith
8. Austin Pasztor
9. Jeremiah Sirles
10. Sam Young

Interior offensive line (guard/center):

1. Andrew Norwell
2. Josh Sitton
3. Jack Mewhort
4. Josh Kline
5. Matt Slauson
6. Weston Richburg (C)
7. Ryan Jensen (C)
8. Joe Berger (G/C)
9. Shawn Lauvao
10. Zach Fulton
11. Senio Kelemete
12. Brandon Fusco
13. D.J. Fluker
14. Jonathan Cooper
15. Kevin Pamphile
16. Spencer Long (C)
17. Evan Smith (G/C)
18. John Sullivan (C)
19. Travis Swanson (C)

 

[skinsdad62]

good work sty

 

[Skins2021]

Some interesting points

-Spencer Long being ranked 16th on this list is interesting... maybe he is more affordable then we think?
-Paul Richardson below Pryor
-Colvin ranked #6 at corner
-Bennie Logan ranked #10 behind Beau Allen, Justin Ellis
-Trent Murphy ranked #3 and Junior Galette ranked #11

If I was playing madden I'd resign Spencer Long and Galette
Sign Colvin, Bennie Logan, Allen Robinson (would settle for Richardson), and Rex Burkhead

Draft an ILB, S, RB, Lines

 

[gkekoa]

Some interesting points

-Spencer Long being ranked 16th on this list is interesting... maybe he is more affordable then we think?
-Paul Richardson below Pryor
-Colvin ranked #6 at corner
-Bennie Logan ranked #10 behind Beau Allen, Justin Ellis
-Trent Murphy ranked #3 and Junior Galette ranked #11

If I was playing madden I'd resign Spencer Long and Galette
Sign Colvin, Bennie Logan, Allen Robinson (would settle for Richardson), and Rex Burkhead

Draft an ILB, S, RB, Lines

Players coming off of injury are very hard to put a value on. Long and Murphy will both be paid less than they would have got and may have to take a one year deal to get their value back.