Your Top 25 MLB Players of All-Time

[broncosmitty]

Goodness gracious. I'm not saying that Jackson had as good a career as Koufax. I'm saying they both had raw and greater potential than their careers realized. How hard is this really?

Bo Jackson might've made a couple more AllStar games, had his hip stayed intact. Maybe. That's it.

Koufax was a great player who had a short career. A great player. He's not in my Top 3 lefties, but he's a rare great.

Bo was a great athlete, no chance of being a great player. None. Football was a different story.

 

[Omar 382]

Bo Jackson might've made a couple more AllStar games, had his hip stayed intact. Maybe. That's it.

Koufax was a great player who had a short career. A great player. He's not in my Top 3 lefties, but he's a rare great.

Bo was a great athlete, no chance of being a great player. None. Football was a different story.

Bo Jackson had no chance of being a great player when he put up a 140 wRC+ in a full season?

 

[broncosmitty]

Bo Jackson had no chance of being a great player when he put up a 140 wRC+ in a full season?

That's a make believe stat, so I don't really care what it signifies.

The dudes career high in doubles was 17. He'd hit his athletic peak prior to the injury. He wasn't going to turn some corner and become something he wasn't. And I'm a guy who grew up with Bo Jackson posters on my wall.

He was nowhere close to a great baseball player.

Sandy was a great player who hung it up in his prime. Bo didnt have a prime of any substance.

 

[broncosmitty]

Bo Jackson had no chance of being a great player when he put up a 140 wRC+ in a full season?

What season do you even consider his best? The one time he drove in 100? Or the one time he had an SLG over .500?

 

[Omar 382]

That's a make believe stat, so I don't really care what it signifies.

The dudes career high in doubles was 17. He'd hit his athletic peak prior to the injury. He wasn't going to turn some corner and become something he wasn't. And I'm a guy who grew up with Bo Jackson posters on my wall.

He was nowhere close to a great baseball player.

Sandy was a great player who hung it up in his prime. Bo didnt have a prime of any substance.

No, it's not a make-believe stat. Your acknowledgement of it is insignificant to it's importance. Again, a guy who hit .272/.342/.523 in 456 PA with 28 home runs, is a player who has a chance to be great. A player who hit 141 home runs in 2,626 PA has a chance to be great.

 

[Liberal Icon]

You are right I don't care a hoot. Not sure your point about Ruth he was a pitcher who became a hitter and started blasting home runs at age 24. Barry Bonds was an already excellent player who over the first 14 years of his career hit 40+ three times, he sees the attention McGwire and Sosa get during their historic run and bam he hits the most home runs the season in which he turned 37 he hits 73 home runs and all of a sudden he hits 45+ five years in a rohe has ever had at age 35 then in the year he turns 37 he hits 73 home runs, let me say that again in w in his late 30's something he had done once in his first 14 seasons.

Look, I get it you're a Giants fan trying to disguise yourself as a baseball fan first and as I said I don't completely disregard Bonds, his records will always have an * for me as they should for every real fan of the game.

I don't hold Aaron over anything, I used his name simply to point out Bonds would not have passed him if not for the juice. Babe Ruth is the home run king and always will be!

Hmmmm. In 1935 at age 40 Babe Ruth hit 3 home runs at Forbes Field one of which went out of the ball park, the first time anyone had hit a fair ball out of the ball park. Yes at age 40! And he didn't have any greater physical condition like the modern athlete. Even other athletes who worked with Bonds attest to his grueling physical workout, yes even at age 37. I am sure Barry Bonds has a special steroids that made him hit more than any other athlete. All of a sudden? Did it coincide with change in ball park and others? When George Mitchell was asked whether he believed steroids made players hit homeruns he said it is complicated! Of course it is. I gave some well researched papers on the effect of "Juice" on baseball especially home runs, but you refuse to read it because, like most baseball fans who hate Barry Bonds and pretend they use to like him, you hate facts while appealing to emotions.

 

[StanMarsh51]

Yeah, Koufax was overrated...just like MJ, Montana, Gretzky, Ali....

One can be overrated and still be an all-time great. I mean, it's hard to justify putting Koufax as a top 5-7 pitcher all time, but if someone's putting him at top 1-3, then they're overrating him.

 

[UK Cowboy]

One can be overrated and still be an all-time great. I mean, it's hard to justify putting Koufax as a top 5-7 pitcher all time, but if someone's putting him at top 1-3, then they're overrating him.

The OP made the overrated comment with Bo Jackson as the comparison. The OP also expanded what I had said about Koufax being the best lefty ever to being one of the three best ever period. In other words, it's the OP being the OP

 

[JohnU]

Wins is the most meaningless stat ever, it really shows how much you know lol

I think wins have been devalued by the change in how pitching is managed. During Johnson's time, pitchers threw all 9 innings, 3 days a week. Wins mattered then a lot more. In ancient times, it is not a meaningless stat.

 

[JohnU]

Are you comparing Bo Jackson and Sandy Koufax!?!

Bo wasn't even great before he got hurt.

That's a horrible comparison.

Bo Jackson was an incredible athlete. A lot of incredible athletes are not the greatest in their sport. I'd say Jackson is in the top 25 or so in football, but not in baseball.

 

[Voltaire26]

Are you comparing Bo Jackson and Sandy Koufax!?!

Bo wasn't even great before he got hurt.

That's a horrible comparison.

Bo had some great moments no doubt, Kirk Gibson had some Amazing Hall of Fame moments, but neither should be brought up in this thread. Great call!!

 

[Iffster]

Your Top 25 MLB Players of All-Time

No particular order:

1. Norm Cash
2. Al Kaline
3. Coot Veal
4. Bo Belinsky
5. Vic Power
6. Frank Larry
7. Don Mossi
8. Ted Lepcio
9. Dave Sisler
10. Charlie Maxwell
11. Rusty Kuntz
12. Jim Gilliam
13. Billy Ripken
14. Frank Bolling
15. Mickey Stanley
16. Ozzie Virgil
17. Bill Mazeroski
18. Gus Zernial
19. Ryan Raburn
20. Ty Cobb
21. Schoolboy Rowe
22. Bob Lemon
23. Steve Zimmerman
24. Ron Flanagan
25. Red Rufensore

Don't like my list? Let me "re-accommodate" you....punk!

 

[Chewbaccer]

Bo Jackson was an incredible athlete. A lot of incredible athletes are not the greatest in their sport. I'd say Jackson is in the top 25 or so in football, but not in baseball.

In college football, definitely, but not in the NFL.

 

[JohnU]

Your Top 25 MLB Players of All-Time

No particular order:

1. Norm Cash
2. Al Kaline
3. Coot Veal
4. Bo Belinsky
5. Vic Power
6. Frank Larry
7. Don Mossi
8. Ted Lepcio
9. Dave Sisler
10. Charlie Maxwell
11. Rusty Kuntz
12. Jim Gilliam
13. Billy Ripken
14. Frank Bolling
15. Mickey Stanley
16. Ozzie Virgil
17. Bill Mazeroski
18. Gus Zernial
19. Ryan Raburn
20. Ty Cobb
21. Schoolboy Rowe
22. Bob Lemon
23. Steve Zimmerman
24. Ron Flanagan
25. Red Rufensore

Don't like my list? Let me "re-accommodate" you....punk!

Gee. thanks

Signed
-- Ted

 

[BallsOfFurry]

In college football, definitely, but not in the NFL.

Even in college Bo only had the one truly great season.
Durability counts when evaluation a career, as it should.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

In college football, definitely, but not in the NFL.

Even in college Bo only had the one truly great season.
Durability counts when evaluation a career, as it should.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

And I probably should have had A-Rod somewhere on my list. However, I painted myself in a corner because I have Maddux/Johnson as 24/25 and I don't want to push one off the list because I like putting them right next to each other. Two similar results, two completely different styles.

You lost all credibility with Bonds at #1.
Even if you choose to forget the cheating and give him credit for his clean stats, he's far from the top player in history.
I choose to ignore him altogether.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Even in college Bo only had the one truly great season.
Durability counts when evaluation a career, as it should.

I saw it the first time, retard.

Why are you posting under an alt account, @TeddyJackEddy ?

 

[Wazmankg]

Bo Jackson was an incredible athlete. A lot of incredible athletes are not the greatest in their sport. I'd say Jackson is in the top 25 or so in football, but not in baseball.

The top 25 what ?

 

[Wazmankg]

A lot of solid lists here. I'm not going to post one, but regarding the Williams-Bonds debate, how does Barry get credit for his obviously PED fueled peak, but Ted doesn't get credit for missing all of those war years during his peaks ?