ATL96Steeler
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He was better than any Steelers QB this year.
I liked this post, but that pretty much goes w/o saying...regardless of what team we're talking about.
He was better than any Steelers QB this year.
Only issue I have is while the line did not play well the fact they sucked was more on the coaching, IMO.ppl act like baker was trubiksy..........
he broke rookie records.........hes on the BROWNS, no offense. Just bc the browns won the off season.....added some good pieces for him, the line sucked...the coach sucked........its not like he was just fn terrible, he wasnt good, his expectations were just sky high. god and im a steelers fan
disaster to say the least.Yeah nothing went right last year. That was awful
very very good pointsOnly issue I have is while the line did not play well the fact they sucked was more on the coaching, IMO.
I mean, 4/5ths of them were on a team that was the best line for the entire second half of 2018...Baker was rarely touched. I'd love a stud LT, but even if they just find someone who is avg. I think as you mentioned the coach will have a scheme that fits Baker this year and plays to his strengths.
Freddie actually knew what his strengths were and ignored them.
I'm willing to wait until the guy can get some frickin consistency in the coaching ranks. I don't care what QB you put behind center in Cleveland last year with that idiot Kitchens, they were going to fail more often than not. Listen to our 2019 OC's thoughts on Kitchens:
There isn't a QB in the league that was going to win under those sort of circumstances.
fairly certain PFF rated him as the #1 college QB.....ever.Funny burrows arms not great, yet u think it is, where u getting that?
and yes his film 2 years ago had him as a 4th-6th round pick not sure how that helps ur case....
Also did u see bakers numbers outside he pocket , coming out of college, epic..... some of the arguments are partially uneducated and partially invalid.
Well like I said good luck at the bottom. Enjoy your playoff run with you Glamorized QB.lol haven't finished at the bottom of the division once since he got here but alright. We were hoodwinked into drafting a guy that set QB passing records. Can't stop laughing at this idiocy, keep it up.
you think a Steeler fan has a love affair with Baker? It's called objectivity.Watching Burrow actually play. Where you're getting Burrow doesn't have a great arm?
Don't need numbers. Watched him play and he was Elite, alot of games he had to carry OU
Don't let your secret love affair with Baker blind you from other talents like Burrow
baker or burrow?fairly certain PFF rated him as the #1 college QB.....ever.
you think a Steeler fan has a love affair with Baker? It's called objectivity.
someone might have answered but Wylie gave us this answer before last season. Many of us thought it might have been sour grapes.Kitchens was a train wreck from the beginning imo, but I thought the whole purpose of keeping him was to have some continuity for the young QB...what happened to the playcalling from rookie season to LY? Was he thought to be an idiot in '18?
beat me to it.lol you literally stated an opinion. Someone get this clown a dictionary.
They did have a lot of talent at OU. No doubt....but he also joined an 0-16 team and set rookie records for QBs.Yeah it's an opinion but it's an accurate one. Baker had a lot of weapons and still the offense struggled. So when he has another sub par year this year or next you still going to defend him? What I said I firmly believe when he came out he was overhyped they had a lot of talent at OU that carried him. The Browns as usual instead of doing their homework went for the glitter guy and again are still cellar dwellers.
Could argue Haskins had one of the best seasons ever, as well, in CFB.
Not sure how much that will matter.
without looking further, I'm guessing the reply is you said baker was Manning. Let's see if I'm right.Through two seasons (and 3 head coaches/offensive coordinators), Baker's stats are:
61.5% comp, 7.4 YPA, 49 TD, 35 INT
Another famous QB, through two full seasons as a starter, had stats that looked like this:
59.3% comp, 7.1 YPA, 52 TD, 43 INT
What an "average talent" Peyton Manning was
makes sense...as he also ignores Burrow's 2018 season.Always gotta laugh at idiots who look at one season with an insanely incompetent HC/playcaller and determine a QB's entire career (while conveniently leaving out the prior season when that QB set records). Keep going, your opinions are so fact-like!
translation - "ya got me, and clearly I cannot refute what you said."Like I said dude over hyped coming out of college once again Browns management hoodwinked. You have become the model of how not to draft a QB in this league. That's a fact. And if you like him I am cool with that, and if you enjoy being the divisional bottom feeder year in and year out I am cool with that. If you want to blame every one but your QB, I'm cool with that. Just accept you are going to be the divisional bitch and move on. Unless until you draft your next QB of the future.
Bakerbaker or burrow?
yes and no. Ive stated my baker love before. its true. Forgive me father rooney, for I have sinned
i havent hid it. Im a huge mayfield fan, dating back to his college days. his behavior this past year has soured me a bit. But i actually love his cockiness. I love his story, 2 time walk on, heisman, #1 pick. Keeps betting on himself, keeps winning. His team mates would take a bullet for him(regardless of how outsiders view him)........Breaks rookie passing records.........im sorry, i love it.Baker
wow..who knew about the Baker love. I was wrong on that one.