Will LeBron ever be seen as better than Kobe in the eyes of Lakers fans?

[Rambunctious]

Not a 'stretch' sure, just very hard to back up with facts. And no harm in it, you can have that opinion all you want....it's just wrong...please see my Bradshaw/Rodgers analogy

I've presented more facts and links than any of you combined.

 

[msgkings322]

Well first of all Rodgers is over rated but is still probably a better QB than Bradshaw.

OK now we are getting somewhere. Do you see how this is analogous to Kobe vs LeBron? The FACTS of their career show Rodgers was better, even though Bradshaw, like Kobe, was more likeable and won more rings.

 

[msgkings322]

I've presented more facts and links than any of you combined.

You have presented almost ZERO facts. Opinions (yours or Garnett's or Iverson's) are not facts.

The one fact you provided about buzzer beaters supported LeBron over Kobe LOL

 

[Rambunctious]

Not a 'stretch' sure, just very hard to back up with facts. And no harm in it, you can have that opinion all you want....it's just wrong...please see my Bradshaw/Rodgers analogy

I've presented more facts and links than any of you

 

[Rambunctious]

OK now we are getting somewhere. Do you see how this is analogous to Kobe vs LeBron? The FACTS of their career show Rodgers was better, even though Bradshaw, like Kobe, was more likeable and won more rings.

Well I don't base my entire opinion on Championships alone. Its just one bit of evidence I'm correct.

 

[dtgold88]

Oh Okay its AI. Artificial intelligence

Yep I get AI now....are you saying you agree it's completely absurd to think Lebron lacks instincts, on court elegance and style (when comparing him to Kobe) or do you think the AI is right?

 

[dtgold88]

I completely agreed with AI's answer that's why I posted it dummy lol

Yeah that's what I figured....so my comment still stands. That was the most absurd comment in the entire thread to me. Whether it was your original thought or not you agreed.

Lebron lacks instincts? Really? Care to explain? I'll ignore the elegance part as though absurd hard to make a case one way or the other.

Idea you'd agree with that and call anyone dummy is priceless.

 

[Rambunctious]

Yep I get AI now....are you saying you agree it's completely absurd to think Lebron lacks instincts, on court elegance and style (when comparing him to Kobe) or do you think the AI is right?

Yes I agree with what AI said. Lebron is more powerful than Kobe but lacks the elegance that Kobe had on the court. A little like the difference between Shaq and Jabbar.

 

[dtgold88]

I've presented more facts and links than any of you

what facts? someone supporting your opinion is not a fact.

 

[msgkings322]

Well I don't base my entire opinion on Championships alone. It’s just one bit of evidence I'm correct.

Again, do you see why these two comparisons are analogous?

 

[Rambunctious]

what facts? someone supporting your opinion is not a fact.

Quotes from players and coaches and what AI thinks, all you have given me are wait for it. Opinions!

 

[msgkings322]

I've presented more facts and links than any of you

Nope, already replied to this

 

[Rambunctious]

Again, do you see why these two comparisons are analogous?

I guess I place more weight on championships than you do. But there have been very good players who are ringless. But they are ringless for a reason. What the reasons were would say a lot about their ability.

 

[msgkings322]

Yes I agree with what AI said. Lebron is more powerful than Kobe but lacks the elegance that Kobe had on the court. A little like the difference between Shaq and Jabbar.

This is possibly an interesting debate (elegance) but has nothing to do with who is better. It can be a huge factor in who you LIKE better if you prefer one style of play over another

 

[dtgold88]

Yes I agree with what AI said. Lebron is more powerful than Kobe but lacks the elegance that Kobe had on the court. A little like the difference between Shaq and Jabbar.

Not even going to discuss the elegance aspect as it's useless to the discussion and hard to prove or support. I mean, unless you think a ballerina might be a better bball player than both of them. But how about instincts? Ever gonna share why Kobe has better instincts? Or Lebron lacks instincts?

 

[dtgold88]

Quotes from players and coaches and what AI thinks, all you have given me are wait for it. Opinions!

actually, no, I've given you many facts. Like who was better in clutch/buzzer beating shots by showing you actually made a higher %. Or reminding you while they could both score that Lebron was a better rebounder and passer (you claimed Lebron didn't really do anything better).

Hell, one of the guys who offered opinion never even said Kobe was better (KG),

 

[Rambunctious]

This is possibly an interesting debate (elegance) but has nothing to do with who is better. It can be a huge factor in who you LIKE better if you prefer one style of play over another

Lets take another look at the NFL since you brought up Rodgers. A lot more great and deserving players never get a ring in the NFL and in MLB as well. The NBA is a little different with that. It would be interesting to see how many hall of famers in each pro sport have not won championships.

 

[dtgold88]

I guess I place more weight on championships than you do. But there have been very good players who are ringless. But they are ringless for a reason. What the reasons were would say a lot about their ability.

Just curious what do you think is a better season.....getting to the Finals and losing or not even making the Finals?

 

[Rambunctious]

Not even going to discuss the elegance aspect as it's useless to the discussion and hard to prove or support. I mean, unless you think a ballerina might be a better bball player than both of them. But how about instincts? Ever gonna share why Kobe has better instincts? Or Lebron lacks instincts?

I can cut a rug with the best of them but could never compete with a Ballerina lol but once again your argument is with AI not me.

 

[dtgold88]

This is possibly an interesting debate (elegance) but has nothing to do with who is better. It can be a huge factor in who you LIKE better if you prefer one style of play over another

That was said more elegantly than I did.

I'd really love to hear factual support on why Kobe had better instincts.