When will the ACC & SEC grow a sac and play a 9 game conference schedule?

[4down20]

But some years for Bama it is NOT adding another KY, it is Adding a Florida Gators or an UGA or a Mizzou, another school from the East. they are not all KY calibre

correct, it's a rotation.

what looks better for fans, CFB, TV Networks, on NOV 19, week 11 ?

Bama vs UGA .......... OR, Bama vs Chattanooga
Florida vs Arkansas ..... OR, Florida vs Presbyterian


You know the answer, we ALL know the answer to this.
It is better for CFB, the Networks, everyone.

the loser in all of this - the Fans, getting 1 less quality game to view, in stadium or on TV.
If you a FL Gator Season tix holder, for NOV 19 are you jacked up for Presbyterian ?
no, you give those tix away possibly,

Would you be jacked up if it was ARKY or Aggie coming in, from the West Div., a team you see at home only every few years.
That game you would be Jacked up for.... possibly a huge showdown late season of 2 ranked teams.
It would Not be snoozefest Presbyterian

Like I said - funny how these topics never appear until after week 4.

Wonder why.

 

[4down20]

PS: @ naming Mizzou as a quality East opponent.

 

[travis2x]

You're simply talking about games in rotation, which has nothing to do with going from 8 to 9 in conference games other than a slight bump in frequency.

It has not actually added quality to the overall schedule for these conferences and you can look at the SoS rankings and see that clearly.

K.

Slight bump in frequency? Slight? Twice every 12 years to twice every six years when going from 8 to 9. I wouldn't say that's slight.

I think you're just aching to get the last word at this point. I won't say anymore cause it obviously won't make a difference to you. Your mind has already been made. To each their own!

 

[4down20]

K.

Slight bump in frequency? Slight? Twice every 12 years to twice every six years when going from 8 to 9. I wouldn't say that's slight.

I think you're just aching to get the last word at this point. I won't say anymore cause it obviously won't make a difference to you. Your mind has already been made. To each their own!

Get rid of divisions, keep 2 or 3 permanent rival games and rotate the rest and you won't go more than 2 years without playing a team - with only 8 games.

You are merely speeding up the rotation, you aren't actually adding very much quality to the schedule because you are still taking from the same pool of teams.

 

[lastfan]

We cannot disrupt that BRUTAL FL Gator OOC scheduling.......

Gators annual OOC lengthy Road trips must be protected.
Keep it at 8, maybe even reduce to 7, so SEC can lighten the load a bit, that brutal Gauntlet SEC has now.

Finally, a voice of reason. But don't stop there - why not go for 6? 50% of the regular season games just feels right. We know even with 6 conference games, ESPN will still rate our schedules way stronger than the rest of those pussy P5 conference schedules.

 

[MKrip]

I am sure that if the SEC was as piss poor top to bottom as the Big 10 is, they would be more welcome to 9 conference games too.

 

[WindyCityCoug]

Finally, a voice of reason. But don't stop there - why not go for 6? 50% of the regular season games just feels right. We know even with 6 conference games, ESPN will still rate our schedules way stronger than the rest of those pussy P5 conference schedules.

love it .....
these posts and threads are just like the old days.,

 

[ralphiewvu]

As it's a rotation, it's exactly the same as it is now - it all depends on who's up in your rotation. Even with 8 games this is evident.

Last year we played Georgia, this year we played Kentucky. Is adding another Kentucky game to the schedule really going to help it? Not really? But Georgia would. Yet, this is the same with 8 or 9 games, with only the frequency of the rotation being the small difference.

So you can stare at the tree instead of the forest if you want, but as the SoS rankings show - the extra game makes very little overall difference.

But what your not admitting and everyone is in agreement is that no matter who you play from the East, it will surely be a better opponent then the 1-AA patsy you play the 3rd Saturday in November.

I'm not not saying don't play a 1-AA but make them earlier in the season. You are trying to defend this practice as you can not help who you play from the east because of rotation, when in actuality others are arguing you should play one more team from the east instead of that extra OOC game which you seem to want.

 

[Tidergirl]

I know the coach and admin. of the team I pull for have voted for a 9 game conference schedule. With the neutral site games now in full swing, the home and home series are gone by the way side for the most part. I miss the 10 year series Bama had with Penn St. for example.
I am not a season ticket holder any longer so it is no big deal to me, but games against FCS teams are a joke. I understand that it helps the FCS teams w/ their budgets. But those games really suck for fans. Do away with FCS games and go to 9 game conference schedule. it will help SOS and also with the conference expansion seeing a team in your conference every 6-8 years makes no sense.

 

[Deep Creek]

What I'd like to see is some better OOC games, be it three OOC or four OOC. More OOC games among the P5s would provide more data points to compare teams IMO.

 

[Tidergirl]

Easy solution is to dump divisions, keep only 2 or 3 permanent rivalry games and rotate the rest every year. Wouldn't go more than 2 years without playing another SEC team.

Does Alabama really need to play LSU, Ole Miss and A&M more than say Georgia and Florida? Not really. Auburn and Tennessee is a big deal, just like Georgia and Auburn etc. So just keep them permanent and the rest can just rotate.

You can do them home and home or you can do them 1 year at a time for even faster rotation. I think home and home would be nice, the way it was back when it was 12.

This wasn't doable until last year when they changed the conference championship rules so that you don't need divisions.

Also, don't need 9 games. More conference games just regionalizes everything more, we need more OOC games, not less. FCS games should just go away in general, but I'd like to see more OOC games, not less.

That is a really good idea. Do away with divisions like they have done in basketball. Then simply the 2 top teams would go to the SECCG. I really like that and as you pointed out you are seeing the entire conference every couple of years.... So how do we get you in the SEC commissioners office??? This might be the best post I have read in a while....

 

[Deep Creek]

That is a really good idea. Do away with divisions like they have done in basketball. Then simply the 2 top teams would go to the SECCG. I really like that and as you pointed out you are seeing the entire conference every couple of years.... So how do we get you in the SEC commissioners office??? This might be the best post I have read in a while....

4D's been promoting this since I've been on the hoop. It is the only way I can see to keep schedule difficulty a little more balanced in the conferences that are too large to play round robins. Round robin is the only way to completely balance conference schedules, but that is impossible in conferences larger than 10.

 

[Tidergirl]

4D's been promoting this since I've been on the hoop. It is the only way I can see to keep schedule difficulty a little more balanced in the conferences that are too large to play round robins. Round robin is the only way to completely balance conference schedules, but that is impossible in conferences larger than 10.

Only playing certain teams in your conference every 6-8 years is a joke. This ways you do not have to worry about the East or West being the dominant division.

 

[4down20]

But what your not admitting and everyone is in agreement is that no matter who you play from the East, it will surely be a better opponent then the 1-AA patsy you play the 3rd Saturday in November.

I'm not not saying don't play a 1-AA but make them earlier in the season. You are trying to defend this practice as you can not help who you play from the east because of rotation, when in actuality others are arguing you should play one more team from the east instead of that extra OOC game which you seem to want.

But the difference in strength is not enough to even be a concern. As highlighted by the fact that the SEC still has the toughest schedules in college football even with 8 conference games and a FCS opponent.

 

[ralphiewvu]

But the difference in strength is not enough to even be a concern. As highlighted by the fact that the SEC still has the toughest schedules in college football even with 8 conference games and a FCS opponent.

That makes absolutely no sense. You are saying adding an extra conference game makes hardly any difference in strength of schedule all the while claiming SEC teams have the toughest schedules because they play other SEC teams.

Contradict much??

 

[4down20]

That makes absolutely no sense. You are saying adding an extra conference game makes hardly any difference in strength of schedule all the while claiming SEC teams have the toughest schedules because they play other SEC teams.

Contradict much??

I'm just not bad at math. As I said before, you can focus on the tree instead of the forest if you want.

In the end you are talking about a single game difference on the season, and even then it's a matter of how much better it is than the existing game - which is hit or miss. The amount of increase wouldn't be very much, just like a single high or low score doesn't make much change on any average that has 11 other scores already.

But hey, what the fuck would I know about SoS formulas and the effects right?

 

[BamaDude]

I wouldn't mind playing an extra conference game each year, as long as we are still able to play a marquee neutral-site game (or occasional OOC home-and-home series) every year.

 

[cmc_rebar]

I wouldn't mind playing an extra conference game each year, as long as we are still able to play a marquee neutral-site game (or occasional OOC home-and-home series) every year.

I would love to see Clemson and Georgia open the season against each other every year.

Home and home, with every 3rd year being in Ga Dome (or its future replacement)

 

[ralphiewvu]

I'm just not bad at math. As I said before, you can focus on the tree instead of the forest if you want.

In the end you are talking about a single game difference on the season, and even then it's a matter of how much better it is than the existing game - which is hit or miss. The amount of increase wouldn't be very much, just like a single high or low score doesn't make much change on any average that has 11 other scores already.

But hey, what the fuck would I know about SoS formulas and the effects right?

Or, your being a blind disingenius homer. You are the pimping schedules from SEC teams because they play other SEC teams. Yet Florida playing Presbyterian or Florida playing bama is no different according to you.

Yes, what do you know about strength of schedule and said effects.

 

[4down20]

Or, your being a blind disingenius homer. You are the pimping schedules from SEC teams because they play other SEC teams. Yet Florida playing Presbyterian or Florida playing bama is no different according to you.

Yes, what do you know about strength of schedule and said effects.

BCF Toys - 2016 SOS Ratings

I'm just going by the rankings you see above.

Right now the SEC makes up 66% of the Alabama schedule, while teams with 9 game conference schedules it makes up 75%. It's not enough difference to make much of a dent in the overall strength of schedule, and it shows when you look at SoS measurements. It's 1 game out of 12, and the difference in team strength is not enough to really matter.

Those other 11 games are the overwhelming majority of the schedule strength.

Yes, obviously Florida is more difficult than a FCS school. But you are focusing on a single tree there and not the forest.

And only 1 more team will get Florida. Others will get Vandy, Kentucky, South Carolina, Mizzou, etc. The only benefit to going to 9 is that the teams will rotate faster. But more than 50% of the time for a SEC West team, it's really just an easier type game. There is a much better way of achieving that as I already pointed out.

Oh and btw, when all these other conferences went to 9 games, it typically wasn't the FCS game on their schedule that went away. Or did you forget about West Virginia playing Youngstown St?