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Warriors 2.0: from Showtime Lakers to the Spurs

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Urban Sashimi deflecting by attacking Lebron. That's a low class move even for you. Curry's injury was a weak excuse. Lebron had 2 of his best teammates get injured in the finals, it's a legit reason to put an asterisk on that finals.

Your sarcasm meter is broken I think.
 

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They are pushing, you just refuse to look at the evidence. Did you read the article Lebron23James posted? You just admitted Curry wasn't 100%. Do you read your own posts?
Curry wasn’t 100%

BUT, that’s not why the Warriors lost. His injury isn’t an excuse. The Warriors lost because the Cavs out played them the last 3 games of the series. Simple as that. They deserved to win.
 

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Curry wasn’t 100%

BUT, that’s not why the Warriors lost. His injury isn’t an excuse. The Warriors lost because the Cavs out played them the last 3 games of the series. Simple as that. They deserved to win.

Just like the Raptors deserved to win this year.

But that also does not mean that the result would have been the same in either year if the Warriors were healthy.

Just like it is no guarantee the Warriors would have won in 2015.

I happen to believe they would have.
 

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The improvements in knee surgery from Barkley's time to now have jumped in leaps and bounds. Knee injuries used to end careers; now, they barely keep players out for a full season to recover. A tear of multiple ligaments can take more than a year to recover from, but Klay's injury was not that severe. Comparing your recovery from injury to that of a millionaire professional athlete is problematic to say the least.

I think Bart and Wiggy are posting from the 70's.
 

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KD is clueless, he was obviously rushed back or else he wouldn't have injured his leg.

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Your sarcasm meter is broken I think.

Maybe, it's just my experience that posters are more interested in finding roundabout ways of bashing Lebron than actually being clever...lol
 

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Just like the Raptors deserved to win this year.

But that also does not mean that the result would have been the same in either year if the Warriors were healthy.

Just like it is no guarantee the Warriors would have won in 2015.

I happen to believe they would have.


Cavs wouldn't have won in 2015 even if they had both Love and Kyrie? How do you figure? The first game went to OT with Kyrie getting injured in Oakland. Imagine if they had Love that first game, they definitely win at Oracle and set the stage to steal the series, no doubt about it. I don't see how anyone can conclude otherwise.
 

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Msgkings reported that GS said Klay was ahead of schedule. They are apparently pushing him to recover faster than needed. This shit is so obvious and unsettling that they are repeating the same patterns that got them in trouble in the first place. They can’t help themselves, I guess. Dumb organization.

Being ahead of schedule doesn't mean they are rushing him back. It simply means that so far, things are progressing better than expected.

Doctors will usually err on the side of caution when offering a timetable for recovery and they are usually based on the time that it would take a regular person to recover.

So, it's not surprising that a young, elite athlete who is receiving the highest quality care on a daily basis would be ahead of schedule in his recovery.
 

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Being ahead of schedule doesn't mean they are rushing him back. It simply means that so far, things are progressing better than expected.

Doctors will usually err on the side of caution when offering a timetable for recovery and they are usually based on the time that it would take a regular person to recover.

So, it's not surprising that a young, elite athlete who is receiving the highest quality care on a daily basis would be ahead of schedule in his recovery.

The GS organization's eagerness to get Klay back on the floor has trickled down to the medical staff comprising their judgement. It's amazing how you see what others want you to see when the circumstances are right.
 

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The amount of finals doesn't matter sniffer it's 4+ championships

Like the bulls, spurs, lakers, Celtics...3 does not = dynasty and 2 losses to go with it

This actually used to be correct.

But the definition of dynasty seems to have changed a bit as player movement has gotten easier.

In principle, I agree with your post. But things have changed.
 

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This actually used to be correct.

But the definition of dynasty seems to have changed a bit as player movement has gotten easier.

In principle, I agree with your post. But things have changed.

Yeah, I think Larry's Celts were a dynasty and they won only 3. Only 3 does seem a bit flimsy, though.
 

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Maybe, it's just my experience that posters are more interested in finding roundabout ways of bashing Lebron than actually being clever...lol

I'm actually one of the bigger Lebron fans around here, but I guess you couldn't really know that unless you looked into a lot of my older posts. I respect the hell out of him as a basketball player and a lot of things that are said about him are unfair.
 

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Yet you can't see with your Wizards curry ball slurping GS googles that the Cavs would have won with Kyrie and Love instead of Delly and TT in 2015

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I wouldn't even say they would have, but they certainly could have and had a far better chance than without those 2.
 

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No, I don’t believe Cleveland would have won.

You are definitely biased.

I don’t agree with you.

That does not make me biased also.
But do you agree they stood a decent chance, like GS did had Klay played?
 

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It's just there to alert fans of significant circumstance that could have impact on the outcome, so when you are rating players and teams, you have important information that you can factor in. Seems valuable to me.

That's actually the best argument for an asterisk that I have seen.

I still don't think any title should have an asterisk (even when the Pistons beat the Lakers when they were without Magic and Byron Scott).

But, in the context that you put it in, it actually makes some sense.
 

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Cavs wouldn't have won in 2015 even if they had both Love and Kyrie? How do you figure? The first game went to OT with Kyrie getting injured in Oakland. Imagine if they had Love that first game, they definitely win at Oracle and set the stage to steal the series, no doubt about it. I don't see how anyone can conclude otherwise.

I'm just not into playing the woulda coulda shoulda game. Injuries occur every year in the NBA and they alter the course of championship runs for some of the greatest teams. You can only take results at face value.

Sometimes the best team in the NBA doesn't win the championship that year. It is what it is. No excuses need to be made because the scenarios or hardships that a team faced are a possibility for any other team.

I don't feel sorry for the Warriors beating the Cavs in 2015. Nor should the Raptors feel sorry for anything for winning in 2019. Adding qualifiers just makes excuses more relevant, when there should not be any excuse.
 
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