Uh-oh HaroldSeattle!!!!

[dtgold88]

So Baker is going to back up Brissett? Get the popcorn out.

what did he say that made you think Baker was backing up Brissett?

 

[dtgold88]

I can't see Mayfield playing another down for Cleveland, even with the money on the table. Mayfield currently remains blinded with hate and will be the very last one to see his NFL destiny.

Or Baker has a massive ego and will want to show the Browns and everyone else they were wrong...which will be hard to do if he's not playing?

 

[dtgold88]

I'm not sure keeping him is in Clevelands best interest.

His situation is too toxic to have in the locker room.

Idea he's toxic or a cancer is overblown IMO. But would it be ideal to keep him? Nope.

 

[dtgold88]

Stats for 2 games don't mean crap. His career comp % is 61.6%. That's horrible.

I can agree....but those stats followed up a top 10 season (top 2-3 over the last half of that season).

 

[dtgold88]

If you look at Bakers stats, too, the Browns have been phasing him out of the offense. 12 yards per catch consistently throughout his career. Less yards per game every season. I do think its possible that his injury last year is what caused him to leave the 'game manager' trajectory but I do think that is his trajectory.

pretty sure he was among top 3 or so in intended air yards/attempt.

 

[dtgold88]

Great enough to go just about any other team if he really wanted to. They worked it out because it made sense for both sides. Mayfield is smaller potatoes but the dynamics are similar. The Browns don't have to move heaven and earth to keep Mayfield, they just have to not cut him and pay the fifth year that they themselves picked up the option for a year ago.

Not great, but that's a good team. You'd rather roll with Mayfield and Brissett than Brissett and Joshua Dobbs.

Correct.....They be Fd if they roll with Brissett as a starter (with Watson out a long time) and he got hurt

 

[wilwhite]

Correct.....They be Fd if they roll with Brissett as a starter (with Watson out a long time) and he got hurt

At least we agree on the football part!

I don’t get this idea that the Browns would sit Mayfield out of spite while still paying him if Watson can’t go.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

what did he say that made you think Baker was backing up Brissett?

You need to go back and read the exchange between him and @ wilwhite to grasp the context.

 

[dtgold88]

At least we agree on the football part!

I don’t get this idea that the Browns would sit Mayfield out of spite while still paying him if Watson can’t go.

I could see it as a possibility if they feel he is not recovered or just believe JB is close to him in ability......I just don't see the latter being true since as far as I can recall no one has ever brought in JB with the idea he'd be a full time starter.

 

[dtgold88]

You need to go back and read the exchange between him and @ wilwhite to grasp the context.

I've seen them all. Again, please feel free to point out what led you to that pearl of wisdom.

He thinks no chance Baker ever play another snap here and said as much quite a bit....but you claimed he thought Baker could be JB's backup?

Let me guess....you will ask me to look for evidence I don't believe exists again as opposed to simply manning up and saying your comment was off base?

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I've seen them all. Again, please feel free to point out what led you to that pearl of wisdom.

He thinks no chance Baker ever play another snap here and said as much....but you claimed he thought Baker could be JB's backup?

Let me guess....you will ask me to look for evidence I don't believe exists again as opposed to simply manning up and saying your comment was off base?

Again, I'm not doing your work for you NostrAdumbAss.

2019 Browns ranked in the 20s defensively.
2020 Browns ranked 16th defensively.
Yeah they sucked. Keep spinning.

 

[dtgold88]

At least we agree on the football part!

I don’t get this idea that the Browns would sit Mayfield out of spite while still paying him if Watson can’t go.

would add this is something I like about this FO....they will not care what irrational, emotional fans think and will not make this decision off of their own emotions either. IMO it will be about what gives us the best chance to win games.

 

[SJ76]

Called it

 

[dtgold88]

Again, I'm not doing your work for you NostrAdumbAss.

2019 Browns ranked in the 20s defensively.
2020 Browns ranked 16th defensively.
Yeah they sucked. Keep spinning.

you claimed I said defense doesn't matter. You lied. You got caught. You wont own your lie.

No more....no less.

 

[Manster7588]

Idea he's toxic or a cancer is overblown IMO. But would it be ideal to keep him? Nope.

I'm not saying Baker is toxic, I'm saying the situation the BROWNS put together is toxic.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I'm not saying Baker is toxic, I'm saying the situation the BROWNS put together is toxic.

when the Browns front office said they wanted an adult at QB (or however they said it) I was like. Yep. He aint ever playing for them again.

 

[Manster7588]

when the Browns front office said they wanted an adult at QB (or however they said it) I was like. Yep. He aint ever playing for them again.

Out of The Browns FO, Baker, and Watson, I'd say Baker has been the adult.

Note* Baker isn't an adult.

 

[Judge Fudge]

Called it



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No deal yet!

Hold your horses tex!!!!!!!!

 

[NWPATSFAN]

you claimed I said defense doesn't matter. You lied. You got caught. You wont own your lie.

No more....no less.

You said the defense sucked.

You lied.

You were wrong AGAIN.

No more no less Spinner

 

[NWPATSFAN]

when the Browns front office said they wanted an adult at QB (or however they said it) I was like. Yep. He aint ever playing for them again.

Shhhh, some Brown fans here believe this is the new and improved FO.

Got to love this forum.