Tyus "Stones" Jones

[DJ Fieri]

Yes. And one other stat you're missing...

Wins:

Smart - 48
Clarkson - 17

You don't think Smart would stuff the stats on a lousy team if he could?

Because one player is responsible for all the team's wins, huh?

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Clarkson is a PG??? I thought you said Russell was the best PG in 2015's class? They can't play the same position, buddy.

Still, get me Marcus Smart over Clarkson regardless of position.

So you're saying both Clarkson and Russell can't both be PGs?

It would be interesting to talk to you once you know a bit about basketball.

 

[HurricaneDij39]

So you're saying both Clarkson and Russell can't both be PGs?

It would be interesting to talk to you once you know a bit about basketball.

No, they can't. That would mean one of them would have to come off the bench. One would think if these guys were so great that they would have won more than 17 games. I could come out and claim that Jeff Teague is the best PG in the East but that doesn't make it true...

 

[HurricaneDij39]

Because one player is responsible for all the team's wins, huh?

What is this, kindergarden? It's called one player playing in a designed system and another player putting up number on a team where someone has to.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

No, they can't. That would mean one of them would have to come off the bench. One would think if these guys were so great that they would have won more than 17 games. I could come out and claim that Jeff Teague is the best PG in the East but that doesn't make it true...

Steph Curry only won 26 games in his first year. 36 in his next.

Kyrie Irving won 21 games.

And you're actually dumb enough to judge a players talent by first year records?

 

[Black Adam]

No, they can't. That would mean one of them would have to come off the bench. One would think if these guys were so great that they would have won more than 17 games. I could come out and claim that Jeff Teague is the best PG in the East but that doesn't make it true...

Seriously?? you of course DO realize both are combo guards, meaning BOTH can handle the 1 AND 2 positions...

COURSE you did...

You keep bringing up win totals to support your argument. you DO realize it takes more than 2 guards to make a team...

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Seriously?? you of course DO realize both are combo guards, meaning BOTH can handle the 1 AND 2 positions...

COURSE you did...

You keep bringing up win totals to support your argument. you DO realize it takes more than 2 guards to make a team...

It seems like Todd is having a slow day.

 

[Black Adam]

Steph Curry only won 26 games in his first year. 36 in his next.

Kyrie Irving won 21 games.

And you're actually dumb enough to judge a players talent by first year records?

2 guards is apparently all it takes to win titles, don't you know...?

 

[Black Adam]

It seems like Todd is having a slow day.

Lmao only VERY...

 

[HurricaneDij39]

Steph Curry only won 26 games in his first year. 36 in his next.

Kyrie Irving won 21 games.

And you're actually dumb enough to judge a players talent by first year records?

Yes. Let's not judge players by "maybe" success. Let's wait for it to actually happen first.

Point being, you made the claim that Tyus Jones winning Summer League MVP, but two years ago you proclaimed Clarkson as a "future Top 10 guard" based on summer league play.

Double standard. I'm not going to sit here a say that I think Jones is good, because I don't...But consistency is a virtue here...

 

[HurricaneDij39]

Seriously?? you of course DO realize both are combo guards, meaning BOTH can handle the 1 AND 2 positions...

COURSE you did...

You keep bringing up win totals to support your argument. you DO realize it takes more than 2 guards to make a team...

Right, you also had "one of the ten best players in history" with them last year. Still 17 wins, though.

 

[Black Adam]

Right, you also had "one of the ten best players in history" with them last year. Still 17 wins, though.

DO find the post where I said anything about it, i'll wait...

Keep throwing team wins in with your weak argument though. Seems to be working sooooo well up to now...

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Yes. Let's not judge players by "maybe" success. Let's wait for it to actually happen first.

Point being, you made the claim that Tyus Jones winning Summer League MVP, but two years ago you proclaimed Clarkson as a "future Top 10 guard" based on summer league play.

Double standard. I'm not going to sit here a say that I think Jones is good, because I don't, but consistency is a virtue here...

So we're not allowed to make predictions now? I claimed Clarkson would be the best PG of his draft, as the 46th pick no less, before he played a single minute of official NBA ball and I was correct.

You're the idiot trying to look clever by disputing that.

 

[Black Adam]

So we're not allowed to make predictions now? I claimed Clarkson would be the best PG of his draft, as the 46th pick no less, before he played a single minute of official NBA ball and I was correct.

You're the idiot trying to look clever by disputing that.

we ARE talking to the guy who thinks Wiggy's an excellent poster, y'know...

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

we ARE talking to the guy who thinks Wiggy's an excellent poster, y'know...

In which case it really is a bit wrong of us to make fun of the mentally handicapped.

 

[HurricaneDij39]

So we're not allowed to make predictions now? I claimed Clarkson would be the best PG of his draft, as the 46th pick no less, before he played a single minute of official NBA ball and I was correct.

You're the idiot trying to look clever by disputing that.

So, comparing him to Steph Curry and Kyrie Irving is necessary, why? So Clarkson was one of the better guard in the 2014 draft and a steal at #46. Big whoop. He didn't have a whole lot of competition. Payton sucks, and Smart hasn't gotten the full opportunities he's deserved on a much deeper roster.

 

[Black Adam]

In which case it really is a bit wrong of us to make fun of the mentally handicapped.

well back on the CBS sports boards he DID say he suffers from Aspargers(spelling). Dunno if he just said it to make people feel sorry for him, though...

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

So, comparing him to Steph Curry and Kyrie Irving is necessary, why? So Clarkson was one of the better guard in the 2014 draft and a steal at #46. Big whoop. He didn't have a whole lot of competition. Payton sucks, and Smart hasn't gotten the full opportunities he's deserved on a much deeper roster.

Why? Because you're judging a players talent by first years records. Which is dumb as shit.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

well back on the CBS sports boards he DID say he suffers from Aspargers(spelling). Dunno if he just said it to make people feel sorry for him, though...

Might be the reason why he feels the need to rate every post "bullshit" every time someone says something mean about him.

 

[HurricaneDij39]

Why? Because you're judging a players talent by first years records. Which is dumb as shit.

Not really the whole point, but let's go with it.

How'd Kevin Love and Michael Beasley fare together in their time in Minnesota? Back in my CBS days, a lot of posters jumped on their bandwagon during their first year together in 2010-11 due to their big numbers and highly touted draft statuses, and in spite of their poor record that season with the Wolves. How'd that one end, again?

Point is, let's wait for success to actually happen first before we proclaim Russell/Clarkson is the "backcourt of the future".