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Agreed

So, you're saying that Tebow is insane!

Exactly!! Not of this world sums it up nicely!! (In other words... something Alien to all of us)

And...

Beyond the fact that he/it never existed as depicted, here are a few for you to consider.
The made up depicted Jesus was against government, in fact, government killed him and there are people by the millions still wearing and displaying his instrument of death. That version was all about unity and love, eventhough, he, his father, or he who was his own father, created evil, but so- called Christians believe that he/it is all about unity and love which is contrary to the human condition, therefore if there are humans in America, he/it would be against their normality. Btw; the whole abortion issue is one that he/it might be a bit confused about, while favoring an anti-abortion stance at some point in development his head scratching moment would be based on the disregard for that life after its born, which could stretch over 100 earth years!
Don’t know why you keep saying it. Definitely not a trans
 

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Nonsense, there's no, zero, nada, evidence that the biblical Jesus ever existed. Now explain to me how you've reached that conclusion when the letter "J" didn't come into existence until much later. However, looking over that proof, I'll agree that people bearing that and any other spelling of that individual's name did exist and that there were probably many bearing the same name, all I need from you is proof that the exceptional manifestation was based in reality. Btw; you cannot use the Bible as a reference as it isn't evidence but a tool used to control and manipulate.

I give you props for trying but we agree that some other factor or factors played a role on all things that exist, where we part is when you or anyone else pretend to know anything about such a power and I'm willing to do what most people apparently find difficult to do... admit that I don't know.

Yes. His name was not spelled Jesus. It was translated as such, just like the name Mohammed is not spelled like this in Arabic.

Actually, the Bible is a history but Jesus was also in historical writings of Josephus and Tacitus and many more scholars.


And the Gospels were not biased. It is not bias to state what you saw, or what you are retelling.

No actual historian disputes the existence of Jesus.
 

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Agreed

So, you're saying that Tebow is insane!

Exactly!! Not of this world sums it up nicely!! (In other words... something Alien to all of us)

And...

Beyond the fact that he/it never existed as depicted, here are a few for you to consider.
The made up depicted Jesus was against government, in fact, government killed him and there are people by the millions still wearing and displaying his instrument of death. That version was all about unity and love, eventhough, he, his father, or he who was his own father, created evil, but so- called Christians believe that he/it is all about unity and love which is contrary to the human condition, therefore if there are humans in America, he/it would be against their normality. Btw; the whole abortion issue is one that he/it might be a bit confused about, while favoring an anti-abortion stance at some point in development his head scratching moment would be based on the disregard for that life after its born, which could stretch over 100 earth years!

Jesus was not against government. He actually stated to give unto Caesar what is Caesars. Now if a government was unjust, then he was against that law and stated we should not adhere to it.

Actually, God did not create evil. Evil is the absence of God, just like cold is the absence of heat and darkness is the absence of light.

Not a single child in the US dies of starvation or cold unless the parents do it on purpose or there were extraordinary circumstances.
 

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Jesus was not against government. He actually stated to give unto Caesar what is Caesars. Now if a government was unjust, then he was against that law and stated we should not adhere to it.

Actually, God did not create evil. Evil is the absence of God, just like cold is the absence of heat and darkness is the absence of light.

Not a single child in the US dies of starvation or cold unless the parents do it on purpose or there were extraordinary circumstances.
So, by your own words he would have been against this government.

Supposedly, this all powerful, all knowing being, was so stupid that he/she/it didn't know that he/she/it created these "voids" as you call them? Nonsense, read your Bible again and you'll find that "God" hates and hate is the sibling of evil. There's no "void" in a Creator that creates or makes ALL things possible. What kind of intellectual avoidance is this?

Define "child" biblically! Perhaps it's your point that "child" only applies to the unborn, but every supposed "good Christian" identifies as a child of God. There are no age limits.

The Bible contains many references to God's hatred of sin and unrighteousness, including:
  • Proverbs 6:16-19: God hates six things and seven things that are detestable to him, including a proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood.

    Psalm 5:5: God hates the workers of iniquity and all who do wrong.

    Psalm 11:5: God hates the wicked.

    Psalm 139:21–22: God hates those who hate him and counts them as his enemies.

    Psalm 26:5: God hates the assembly of evildoers and will not sit with the wicked.

    Psalm 31:6: God hates those who pay regard to worthless idols.

    Hosea 9:15: God will drive those who do evil from his house.

    Malachi 1:1-3; Romans 9:13: God hated Esau before he was born.
 

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So, by your own words he would have been against this government.

Supposedly, this all powerful, all knowing being, was so stupid that he/she/it didn't know that he/she/it created these "voids" as you call them? Nonsense, read your Bible again and you'll find that "God" hates and hate is the sibling of evil. There's no "void" in a Creator that creates or makes ALL things possible. What kind of intellectual avoidance is this?

Define "child" biblically! Perhaps it's your point that "child" only applies to the unborn, but every supposed "good Christian" identifies as a child of God. There are no age limits.

The Bible contains many references to God's hatred of sin and unrighteousness, including:
  • Proverbs 6:16-19: God hates six things and seven things that are detestable to him, including a proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood.

    Psalm 5:5: God hates the workers of iniquity and all who do wrong.

    Psalm 11:5: God hates the wicked.

    Psalm 139:21–22: God hates those who hate him and counts them as his enemies.

    Psalm 26:5: God hates the assembly of evildoers and will not sit with the wicked.

    Psalm 31:6: God hates those who pay regard to worthless idols.

    Hosea 9:15: God will drive those who do evil from his house.

    Malachi 1:1-3; Romans 9:13: God hated Esau before he was born.

Yes God hates sin. I don’t think anybody ever claimed otherwise.

We are all children of God, even those such as you who disavow him.

Again…does cold exist? Does darkness exist? They do not by themselves exist. Just like evil by itself does not exist. Instead it is an absence of God.
 

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Yes God hates sin. I don’t think anybody ever claimed otherwise.

We are all children of God, even those such as you who disavow him.

Again…does cold exist? Does darkness exist? They do not by themselves exist. Just like evil by itself does not exist. Instead it is an absence of God.
That depiction of God also hates people not just sin! Christians claim otherwise all of the time.

Whatever the force behind all that exists I do not disavow, I am comfortable enough with myself to admit that I know nothing about that force as so many foolish people refuse to do.

This is one of those dumb as rocks counter arguments designed to confuse, but as usual logic removes the confusion by giving it back. So, If cold doesn't exist then neither does heat, if darkness doesn't exist then neither does light, and if evil doesn't exist then neither does good just as you've stated it's an absence of an invisible, man made God. Nice try, but cold,heat, darkness, light, good and evil all exist! We even have words for them and so did your biblical God.
 

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That depiction of God also hates people not just sin! Christians claim otherwise all of the time.

Whatever the force behind all that exists I do not disavow, I am comfortable enough with myself to admit that I know nothing about that force as so many foolish people refuse to do.

This is one of those dumb as rocks counter arguments designed to confuse, but as usual logic removes the confusion by giving it back. So, If cold doesn't exist then neither does heat, if darkness doesn't exist then neither does light, and if evil doesn't exist then neither does good just as you've stated it's an absence of an invisible, man made God. Nice try, but cold,heat, darkness, light, good and evil all exist! We even have words for them and so did your biblical God.

Who did God hate?

Maybe you should investigate that force rather than speak against it.

It is not a dumb argument. It is a comparison. Scientifically, there is no cold nor darkness. We have words to describe the feeling…
 

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Theological debates on a thread started by a master gloater ona football message board about a team that has been irrelevant and objectively terrible for the better part of 20 years is - in my opinion - peak 2024.

Also, Harris got bitchslapped like a redheaded stepchild. Taken behind the woodshed.

Also, I’m still gonna be fine.

Also, no BRob could be a problem today, and I hope Lattimore plays on Thursday vs the Eagles.

Also, Dak is out for the season and the Giants suck. This Thursday’s game is massive.

I think that’s all for now.
 

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Master gloaters can’t gloat unless they are right , perhaps people should listen to what the gloater said in the first place while they were insulting him or her instead of half way using facts and evidence
 

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Master gloaters can’t gloat unless they are right , perhaps people should listen to what the gloater said in the first place while they were insulting him or her instead of half way using facts and evidence

You are wrong as often as you are right, the difference being that you hardly ever admit that you are wrong when you are very clearly wrong.

Master gloaters often display an aversion to facts as a way of justifying their factually incorrect opinions about things.

Master gloaters also often get confused by simple facts simply because those facts dont align with their opinions.

If you feel insulted when sometimes being called out for your blatant untruths, then perhaps you should follow your own advice and not read those threads

In any case, like I said previously, it’s peak 2024 to be having a theological discussion on a thread started by a master gloater on a message board for an usually ireelevant team.

Wanna start a debate about how hypocritical the “religious right” are about their supposed love of Jesus and Christianty?

I sure dont.

Anywhoo, back to the sty and gkekoa show.
 
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I give props to Sty and gkek for presenting compelling arguments on "there is a God" v "there Isn't one." I personally believe in God for a lot of reasons, though I fail him miserably everyday, but for me however it seems obvious that a master architect is at play here. Aside from the mere beauty of the world just how mathematically and rhythmically accurate the earth is placed in our universe. A slight tilt either way. A degree or two closer either way and we don't exist, but it goes deeper than that. So deep in fact that Darwin himself was left befuddled, but more on that in a bit. To me personally the thought of how man came to be is absurd. That we were equivalent to a bacterium slug crawling out from pond scum to the dry ground and thru evolution developed arms, legs, head, brain, and in order to multiply on now woman had to split from that bacterium and begin her own evolution, and even if that happened everything had to be mathematically in tune for any of this to be. The most perfect storm to ever be.

Now I mentioned the one thing Darwin could not explain. Eyesight. He wrote "that the idea of natural selection producing the eye seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest possible degree." From the way the lens was perfectly positioned to focus light onto the retina to the way the iris adjusted the amount of light that could enter the eye were complexing as hell for him to explain.

I believe in evolution. I believe we evolve to bigger, stronger and more intelligent beings with time but all through the grace of God, and certainly not from a slug wiggling it's way out from the depths.

Just my opinion.
 

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I give props to Sty and gkek for presenting compelling arguments on "there is a God" v "there Isn't one." I personally believe in God for a lot of reasons, though I fail him miserably everyday, but for me however it seems obvious that a master architect is at play here. Aside from the mere beauty of the world just how mathematically and rhythmically accurate the earth is placed in our universe. A slight tilt either way. A degree or two closer either way and we don't exist, but it goes deeper than that. So deep in fact that Darwin himself was left befuddled, but more on that in a bit. To me personally the thought of how man came to be is absurd. That we were equivalent to a bacterium slug crawling out from pond scum to the dry ground and thru evolution developed arms, legs, head, brain, and in order to multiply on now woman had to split from that bacterium and begin her own evolution, and even if that happened everything had to be mathematically in tune for any of this to be. The most perfect storm to ever be.

Now I mentioned the one thing Darwin could not explain. Eyesight. He wrote "that the idea of natural selection producing the eye seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest possible degree." From the way the lens was perfectly positioned to focus light onto the retina to the way the iris adjusted the amount of light that could enter the eye were complexing as hell for him to explain.

I believe in evolution. I believe we evolve to bigger, stronger and more intelligent beings with time but all through the grace of God, and certainly not from a slug wiggling it's way out from the depths.

Just my opinion.
 

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Communism clearly rejected. Now if we could just get rid of the damn Commie name for the team.
 
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