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more division is all I read.
you want cali but not duke. It's still a color by numbers post.

Four huge ass problems with this country have developed.

1. DEEP culture polorzation since the 1960's

2. A frozen two party system.

3. Money on politics

4. Marrage of the Christian Right to the GOP

On number four specifically, every religious group has to attach itself to the ideals of the party that most closely resembles their belief system. Realistically, you cannot be a believer in any higher power and not vote a certain way. I don’t think you can be a Christian or a Muslim and vote for the democrat party IF you understand what your religion believes AND what the democrats stand for…particularly on the subject of abortion and sexuality issues.
 

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hell dude....this was my assignment back at espn.

I've actually only lost my mind twice on a sports opinion board talking sports. We all know it, this should be an escape from politics. Some just won't stay in the sandbox.

DIVISION
and not football teams
WILL GET US


kinda like Warriors as y'alls team name. Logic ain't so logical.
The connection between politics and football can be directly linked to the NFL's playing of the National Anthem and connection to the military. They opened that door and this is but one example of those actions.
So, I blame them... the threads and posts here are, like political division, nothing more than a symptom of the greater evil.
 

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Yeah playing the National Anthem is really political, and supporting those who defend your right to be an asshole (not actually aimed at you Sty, just a saying) is really political
 

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On number four specifically, every religious group has to attach itself to the ideals of the party that most closely resembles their belief system. Realistically, you cannot be a believer in any higher power and not vote a certain way. I don’t think you can be a Christian or a Muslim and vote for the democrat party IF you understand what your religion believes AND what the democrats stand for…particularly on the subject of abortion and sexuality issues.
Or, you can regain your senses and realize that religion is complete BS created by man for his evil doings and that "realistically" you can believe in a universal higher power and not actually know anything about such a omnipotent alien force, beyond that which has been created in the minds of men.

Now before you come after me, take a moment to consider that ONE of the sources of my statements comes from the very book that so-called "Christians" get their marching orders. (Btw; there are no true Christians in its purest sense)

This statement is based on the Bible, specifically Acts 17:24, which says "God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands.". Essentially, it means that God cannot be confined to a physical structure built by humans, and is omnipresent, meaning he is everywhere.
 

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Yeah playing the National Anthem is really political, and supporting those who defend your right to be an asshole (not actually aimed at you Sty, just a saying) is really political
It's political speech in song form, and defending one's right to be an asshole as I and others here have done, is a separate thing. If we all want politics out of this football site, then half-stepping is not the way. All goes or none of it goes. When an issue comes up like Tebow kneeling, CK kneeling, or military flyovers etc., then again it's all or nothing, because speech is speech and it's going to be freely expressed here or not allowed since we are the forum.

Btw;
The purpose of the U.S. military isto protect the United States, defend the Constitution (not what's in it, but that it survives) and ensure national security. The rest of that BS is stuck in to make regular Joe's and Josettes feel better.
 
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I (your name) do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God. ( and in my case when I entered the military "I do so affirm!")
 

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It's political speech in song form, and defending one's right to be an asshole as I and others here have done, is a separate thing. If we all want politics out of this football site, then half-stepping is not the way. All goes or none of it goes. When an issue comes up like Tebow kneeling, CK kneeling, or military flyovers etc., then again it's all or nothing, because speech is speech and it's going to be freely expressed here or not allowed since we are the forum.

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The purpose of the U.S. military isto protect the United States, defend the Constitution (not what's in it, but that it survives) and ensure national security. The rest of that BS is stuck in to make regular Joe's and Josettes feel better.

No it is not. Politics are internal to the country…the anthem represents the country. Tebow kneeled to glorify God…CK kneeled during the anthem in a BS protest.
 

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No it is not. Politics are internal to the country…the anthem represents the country. Tebow kneeled to glorify God…CK kneeled during the anthem in a BS protest.
This country isn't sanctified therefore Tebow kneeling was in fact an act contrary to the actions of men. If there was such a person as the depicted Jesus, his presence on earth today would be seen as anti-american. You know this!
Btw; I agree with you that politics are internal to the country, but defense of it as you alluded to previously is not, that's external as no war involving this country, except those involving its separation from British control has ever been fought on U.S. soil. This is especially true in more modern times.
 

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I don’t think you can be a Christian or a Muslim and vote for the democrat party
My sister said the same thing in 2019.
Thanks for demonstrating the concept behind #4.

Maybe you're right, Maybe Jesus doesn't love the Muslims or gays.
It's funny I thought the church woulda choose a more religious type for their modern-day apostle.
Mysterious ways indeed.
 

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The connection between politics and football can be directly linked to the NFL's playing of the National Anthem and connection to the military. They opened that door and this is but one example of those actions.
So, I blame them... the threads and posts here are, like political division, nothing more than a symptom of the greater evil.
sure. The enemy is usually us.

Division rules
 

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Or, you can regain your senses and realize that religion is complete BS created by man for his evil doings and that "realistically" you can believe in a universal higher power and not actually know anything about such a omnipotent alien force, beyond that which has been created in the minds of men.

Now before you come after me, take a moment to consider that ONE of the sources of my statements comes from the very book that so-called "Christians" get their marching orders. (Btw; there are no true Christians in its purest sense)

This statement is based on the Bible, specifically Acts 17:24, which says "God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands.". Essentially, it means that God cannot be confined to a physical structure built by humans, and is omnipresent, meaning he is everywhere.

Or you can look at the undeniable historical evidence that Jesus Christ really existed.

You can look at the undeniable likelihood that his disciples did not die for a lie or belief. They died because they could not deny what they had seen. They saw a resurrected Christ, as did at least 500 other people.

You can look objectively at the world and realize that something so incredibly organized had to have a Creator.

Or you can go on believing the impossible…we all came from a single cell organism. But there are no two cell organisms, or three cell organisms. Life comes from non life.
 

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My sister said the same thing in 2019.
Thanks for demonstrating the concept behind #4.

Maybe you're right, Maybe Jesus doesn't love the Muslims or gays.
It's funny I thought the church woulda choose a more religious type for their modern-day apostle.
Mysterious ways indeed.

When did I ever say Jesus, and by extension, Christians do not love Muslims or gays? A Christian simply believes a Muslim will not end up in Heaven because they have not put their faith in Christ. In no way do we wish that separation upon them. And Christians are called to love gays, not support them in their sin.

I can’t see how any Christian or Muslim can support a party that supports and cheers for the murder of children. I can’t see how any Christian or Muslim can support a party that promotes Biblical sexual immorality.
 

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This country isn't sanctified therefore Tebow kneeling was in fact an act contrary to the actions of men. If there was such a person as the depicted Jesus, his presence on earth today would be seen as anti-american. You know this!
Btw; I agree with you that politics are internal to the country, but defense of it as you alluded to previously is not, that's external as no war involving this country, except those involving its separation from British control has ever been fought on U.S. soil. This is especially true in more modern times.

No country is sanctified any more than any other country.

Tebow kneeling to pray was in fact giving glory to God.

Jesus would be king of a country not of this world. What would make him UN-American though…I am curious.
 

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Or you can look at the undeniable historical evidence that Jesus Christ really existed.

You can look at the undeniable likelihood that his disciples did not die for a lie or belief. They died because they could not deny what they had seen. They saw a resurrected Christ, as did at least 500 other people.

You can look objectively at the world and realize that something so incredibly organized had to have a Creator.

Or you can go on believing the impossible…we all came from a single cell organism. But there are no two cell organisms, or three cell organisms. Life comes from non life.
Nonsense, there's no, zero, nada, evidence that the biblical Jesus ever existed. Now explain to me how you've reached that conclusion when the letter "J" didn't come into existence until much later. However, looking over that proof, I'll agree that people bearing that and any other spelling of that individual's name did exist and that there were probably many bearing the same name, all I need from you is proof that the exceptional manifestation was based in reality. Btw; you cannot use the Bible as a reference as it isn't evidence but a tool used to control and manipulate.

I give you props for trying but we agree that some other factor or factors played a role on all things that exist, where we part is when you or anyone else pretend to know anything about such a power and I'm willing to do what most people apparently find difficult to do... admit that I don't know.
 

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No country is sanctified any more than any other country.

Tebow kneeling to pray was in fact giving glory to God.

Jesus would be king of a country not of this world. What would make him UN-American though…I am curious.
Agreed

So, you're saying that Tebow is insane!

Exactly!! Not of this world sums it up nicely!! (In other words... something Alien to all of us)

And...

Beyond the fact that he/it never existed as depicted, here are a few for you to consider.
The made up depicted Jesus was against government, in fact, government killed him and there are people by the millions still wearing and displaying his instrument of death. That version was all about unity and love, eventhough, he, his father, or he who was his own father, created evil, but so- called Christians believe that he/it is all about unity and love which is contrary to the human condition, therefore if there are humans in America, he/it would be against their normality. Btw; the whole abortion issue is one that he/it might be a bit confused about, while favoring an anti-abortion stance at some point in development his head scratching moment would be based on the disregard for that life after its born, which could stretch over 100 earth years!
 
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