Toronto gets hockey team - as does Seattle, Quebec, Las Vegas

[TheRobotDevil]

I was at that game, too. Didn't exactly notice Clarkson. To be honest, the only time you noticed Clarkson all year was when he fell. Which he did. A lot.

You were at the game in jersey too I was paying attention it was the first time seeing him play at a game since he left to go home. I was right in front of the goal where Elias deked Reimer out of his jock

 

[Swamp Dragon]

Well, contraction will never, ever ever happen, so the less it's talked about the better.

If expansion had to happen, I would be fine with 2 teams. 4 is a very, very dangerous thinning of the talent pool and in places like KC and Vegas, a risky proposition for a league in which a third of the teams aren't exactly the steadiest financially.

I believe that there will be 2 expansion teams in 2017, in Canadian cities so they can get larger expansion fees, to go with the centennial of the league the other two I expect will be the Panthers and possibly the Coyotes relocating. I still think that Portland will end up with a team before Vegas though

 

[DragonfromTO]

You were at the game in jersey too I was paying attention it was the first time seeing him play at a game since he left to go home. I was right in front of the goal where Elias deked Reimer out of his jock

Shouldn't they have stopped the play with a fan on the ice?

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

You were at the game in jersey too I was paying attention it was the first time seeing him play at a game since he left to go home. I was right in front of the goal where Elias deked Reimer out of his jock

My gf lives in Hoboken. Was visiting and her idea of a sick joke was to take me to a game in the middle of the collapse. Was a few rows behind the benches. I tried to chuck my hot dog at Randy's head but Kessel caught it with his mouth instead.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Shouldn't they have stopped the play with a fan on the ice?

He probably had more puck possession than the Leafs.

 

[dash]

He probably had more puck possession than the Leafs.

 

[Oldtom]

Yeah, I think the bolded part above plays a prominent role, also if it is news about a team that doesn't have a huge representation on this board (Winnipeg, Carolina are a couple of examples), the Ongoing NHL thread can be used as a catch-all. That said, if you want to create a new thread, feel free to do so.

...don't worry 'bout Wpg. They've got me.

 

[Oldtom]

well as i stated ... when you move a team to city for ZERO or you can create one there and get $250 million instead ... id say it does matter

Id say the best way to go about getting teams from a business standpoint is (proviso: cdn dollar stays arounf 90 to 95 cents)

Toronto: expand
Quebec City: expand
Seattle: move
Milwaukee or KC: move


what prospective owner (in any sport?) today would be ok with paying 250 mill to establish a new team in a market not of their choice

Just to be fair - they should let MLSE sell them the Marlies, lock, stock and players - and their dates at the ACC until they get an Arena built 'somewhere' in S. Ont - for say a cool $300 Million - zip to the League. That would have at least half of the other teams clamoring for the same windfall - don't worry though - it makes too much sense, eh.

 

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Patrick, who does TV work for NBC and hosts a national radio show, cited "a financial person who is in involved" with the process and told him there'd be a team in Vegas in 2016: "The paperwork's already done. It is, as has been reported, a done deal."

Patrick raised the question over whether the still-theoretical team would be an expansion franchise or a relocated one. He mentioned the Arizona Coyotes, which is par for the course, but the team's new ownership group has said, constantly, that they're committed to the market long-term, five-year out clause notwithstanding. Several recent long-term sponsorship deals back that up.

The other team Patrick mentioned, per his source: the Carolina Hurricanes. Owner Peter Karmanos is looking to sell for an "exorbitant amount,' according to Patrick, so he said the end result could be a Vegas move. The Hurricanes have missed the playoffs the last five years, play in a non-traditional market and have uncertainty at the top of the organization, so there are dots to connect.

NHL expansion rumors: Las Vegas team 'done deal,' per Dan Patrick - NHL - Sporting News

 

[Nasty_Magician]

Speaking of the Hurricanes, where's Bizzle?

 

[IPostedWhat]

Speaking of the Hurricanes, where's Bizzle?

He still hasn't forgiven me for 'shopping his kid wearing Sabres gear.

 

[Comeds]

He still hasn't forgiven me for 'shopping his kid wearing Sabres gear.

I have to admit that stuff made me laugh. He'd post pics of his kid all the time but if someone photo shopped the kid, even innocently like a different jersey and he would get angry.

I dont know, maybe if I had kids I would be upset too but I dont think I would post pictures of them.

 

[dash]

I guess Biz didn't find it funny, cute, or appropriate. Please don't do it again.

 

[IPostedWhat]

This is life, the one you get so go and have a ball, because the world don't move, to the beat of just one drum. What might be right for you, may not be right for some. You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have my opening statement..sit ubu sit. Good dog.

 

[mattola]

This is life, the one you get so go and have a ball, because the world don't move, to the beat of just one drum. What might be right for you, may not be right for some. You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have my opening statement..sit ubu sit. Good dog.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

If Carolina switches to the West, I guess the current system can be changed to a free-for-all where you qualify for the playoffs based on conference standing alone, right?

 

[davnlaguna]

If Carolina switches to the West, I guess the current system can be changed to a free-for-all where you qualify for the playoffs based on conference standing alone, right?

Or they do what no rational person would do; they could just keep it top three in a conference with 2 wild cards

 

[Winged_Wheel88]

I believe that there will be 2 expansion teams in 2017, in Canadian cities so they can get larger expansion fees, to go with the centennial of the league the other two I expect will be the Panthers and possibly the Coyotes relocating. I still think that Portland will end up with a team before Vegas though

That makes a lot more sense to me than 4 brand new teams entering the league.

 

[forty_three]

The other team Patrick mentioned, per his source: the Carolina Hurricanes. Owner Peter Karmanos is looking to sell for an "exorbitant amount,' according to Patrick, so he said the end result could be a Vegas move. The Hurricanes have missed the playoffs the last five years, play in a non-traditional market and have uncertainty at the top of the organization, so there are dots to connect.[/I]

Would be a terrible mistake.

USA Hockey youth registration numbers:
North Carolina
2002-03: 3,795
2012-13: 6,209
Ten-Year Growth: 2,414 (63.6%)

Large number of northern transplants, tons of tech startups for sponsorship, base of very large companies continuing to move people there. young, somewhat affluent fanbase. Plus the franchise is a cup winner. That should buy some leeway before pulling the plug.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Would be a terrible mistake.

USA Hockey youth registration numbers:
North Carolina
2002-03: 3,795
2012-13: 6,209
Ten-Year Growth: 2,414 (63.6%)

Large number of northern transplants, tons of tech startups for sponsorship, base of very large companies continuing to move people there. young, somewhat affluent fanbase. Plus the franchise is a cup winner. That should buy some leeway before pulling the plug.

What are the stats for CT?