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Top 25 Programs of the BCS Era
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Apparently everyone but the ND fan knows it.
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Ok then, deal with the consequences, it's not going to bother me. People like you come and go often.
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And I will be later, I will be tomorrow and the day after that.
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Not with Kelly as your coach. Sorry, but wishful thinking will not make ND into a top 10 program. Kelly has no clue how to develop his players while being there. Let's just see if his star QB can keep his ass in school for longer than a year. Or if Kelly can get the top defensive recruits again. Getting kids from Bishop Luers, Bishop Dwenger, and Carroll High School out of Ft. Wayne is not the way to go if you want to be a top 10 program. When you are able to keep those top FL recruits there that is when ND will once again be back on top.
And my "old lay" jokes? How old are you 12?
Edit: it was a great feeling to be sitting in ND Stadium watching my Noles give ND their worst home loss ever in 2003. 37-0. Was absolutely beautiful to be sitting right beside the ND student section watching those little bitches cry and then leave halfway through the 3rd quarter.
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Good question. BUT, if we eliminate FSU then we need to eliminate ND from USC's schedule, OK?
Here are the lists of AP Top 10 Opponents for both USC and UF.
College Football Trivia
Pos..Team..Opponent......Tot......Home..Away....N..Neutral
1....Florida..Florida St.....Tot..9....H..4....A..5....N..0
2....Florida..Alabama......Tot..8....H..2....A..2....N..4
3....Florida..Georgia.......Tot..7....H..0....A..0....N..7
4....Florida..LSU............Tot..7....H..2....A..5....N..0
5....Florida..Tenn..........Tot..6....H..4....A..2....N..0
6....Florida..So Car........Tot..3....H..1....A..2....N..0
7....Florida..Auburn.......Tot..2....H..1....A..1....N..0
8....Florida..Mia(FL)......Tot..2....H..1....A..1....N..0
9....Florida..Missouri.....Tot..1....H..0....A..1....N..0
10..Florida..Tex A&M....Tot..1....H..0....A..1....N..0
...............................Tot..46....H..15..A..20..N..11
1..USC..Oregon......Tot..6....H..4....A..2....N..0
2..USC..Stanford....Tot..3....H..1....A..2....N..0
3..USC..Wash St.....Tot..3....H..2....A..1....N..0
4..USC..Fl. St.........Tot..2....H..1....A..1....N..0
5..USC..ND............Tot..2....H..1....A..1....N..0
6..USC..Ohio St.....Tot..2....H..1....A..1....N..0
7..USC..Penn St.....Tot..2....H..0....A..1....N..1
8..USC..UCLA........Tot..2....H..1....A..1....N..0
9..USC..Ariz St......Tot..1....H..0....A..1....N..0
10..USC..Cal..........Tot..1....H..1....A..0....N..0
11..USC..Kan St....Tot..1....H..0....A..1....N..0
12..USC..Ore St.....Tot..1....H..0....A..1....N..0
13..USC..VT,,,,,.....Tot..1....H..0....A..0....N..1
..........................Tot..27...H..12...A..13...N..2
So removing FSU and ND gives
UF.....total...37....H 11...A 15...N 11
USC...total...25....H 11...A 12...N 2
Here are the lists of AP Top 25 Opponents for both USC and UF.
College Football Trivia
Pos..Team...Opponent......Tot.......Home..Away..Neutral
1....Florida..Florida St......Tot..17....H..8....A..9....N..0
2....Florida..Georgia.........Tot..14....H..0....A..0....N..14
3....Florida..LSU..............Tot..14....H..6....A..8....N..0
4....Florida..Tenn.............Tot..11....H..6....A..5....N..0
5....Florida..Alabama.......Tot..9.....H..2....A..2....N..5
6....Florida..Auburn.........Tot..9.....H..5....A..3....N..1
7....Florida..So Car..........Tot..6.....H..3....A..3....N..0
8....Florida..Mia(FL)........Tot..2.....H..1....A..1....N..0
9....Florida..Miss.............Tot..2.....H..2....A..0....N..0
10..Florida..Miss St.........Tot..2.....H..1....A..1....N..0
11..Florida..Vanderbilt....Tot..2.....H..1....A..1....N..0
12..Florida..Arkansas......Tot..1....H..0....A..0....N..1
13..Florida..Missouri.......Tot..1....H..0....A..1....N..0
14..Florida..So Miss........Tot..1....H..1....A..0....N..0
15..Florida..Tex A&M.....Tot..1....H..0....A..1....N..0
.................................Tot..92..H..36...A..35....N..21
1....USC..Arizona......Tot..1....H..1....A..0....N..0
2....USC..Arkansas....Tot..1....H..0....A..1....N..0
3....USC..Auburn.......Tot..1....H..1....A..0....N..0
4....USC..Colorado....Tot..1....H..0....A..1....N..0
5....USC..Kans St......Tot..1....H..0....A..1....N..0
6....USC..Purdue........Tot..1....H..1....A..0....N..0
7....USC..VT..............Tot..1....H..0....A..0....N..1
8....USC..Fl St...........Tot..2....H..1....A..1....N..0
9....USC..Ohio St.......Tot..2....H..1....A..1....N..0
10..USC..Penn St.......Tot..2....H..0....A..1....N..1
11..USC..Cal..............Tot..3....H..2....A..1....N..0
12..USC..Wash..........Tot..3....H..1....A..2....N..0
13..USC..Ore St.........Tot..4....H..1....A..3....N..0
14..USC..UCLA...........Tot..4....H..3....A..1....N..0
15..USC..Wash St.......Tot..4....H..2....A..2....N..0
16..USC..Ariz St.........Tot..5....H..1....A..4....N..0
17..USC..Stanford......Tot..5....H..3....A..2....N..0
18..USC..ND.............Tot..9....H..6....A..3....N..0
19..USC..Oregon......Tot..11....H..5....A..6....N..0
...............................Tot..61....H..29....A..30....N..2
So removing FSU and ND gives
UF......Tot..75.....H..28...A..26....N..21
USC...Tot..52.....H 23....A 27.....N 2
Thus even removing FSU and ND then UF plays 23 more ranked teams than USC.
Here is the kicker..
Nunber of opponents that DIDN’T have winning records.
1.....Florida....Total....90....Majors....66....D1 Non Maj...19....FCS....5
2.....USC........Total..114....Majors..102....D1 Non Maj....8.....FCS....0
That means the USC played 24 opponents that DIDN'T have winning records.
Thus USC replaced 23 ranked opponents that UF played with opponents that DIDN'T have winning records.
Are people REALLY going to claim that playing a Top 25 ranked team at a Neutral site is EASIER than playing a 0.500 or worse at their place???
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Bama Tee,
Gotta luv ya, you are impeccably predictable and totally dismissive of anyone who would dare contradict your cozy little word view. How dare anyone state that good football can be played by small budget teams, what you so incorrectly describe as "little boy" football. It would be funny if you didn't actually believe this
. My point is simple. The NCAA puts all d-1 teams under the same rules. They have identical scholarship limits and supposedly follow the same rules in recruiting and play. Of course, we all know that the mantra in SEC country is "if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying."
So, if everyone in the division plays by the same rules, shouldn't the best team win? You know, on the field in fair competition. But the field has never been level, and if good people like you have your way, it never will be. It's OK, it wasn't that long ago that such attitudes prevailed in all sorts of situations. Today we celebrate someone who fought such beliefs.
The talent of the team, not the size of the budget should rule. Sure, big conference affiliations give teams big advantages in all sorts of ways. But my school made a name for itself by toppling such things.
Not to worry, if not my team, someone else will come along and do it. This is America, my friend, the land where the little guy actually can win. Yeah, yeah, I know, in every thing except d-1 football.
Rest well. Peace.
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Watch out, though. Trojan-man is going to give us data "soon".
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Bama Tee,
Gotta luv ya, you are impeccably predictable and totally dismissive of anyone who would dare contradict your cozy little word view. How dare anyone state that good football can be played by small budget teams, what you so incorrectly describe as "little boy" football. It would be funny if you didn't actually believe this
My point is simple. The NCAA puts all d-1 teams under the same rules. They have identical scholarship limits and supposedly follow the same rules in recruiting and play. Of course, we all know that the mantra in SEC country is "if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying."
So, if everyone in the division plays by the same rules, shouldn't the best team win? You know, on the field in fair competition. But the field has never been level, and if good people like you have your way, it never will be. It's OK, it wasn't that long ago that such attitudes prevailed in all sorts of situations. Today we celebrate someone who fought such beliefs.
The talent of the team, not the size of the budget should rule. Sure, big conference affiliations give teams big advantages in all sorts of ways. But my school made a name for itself by toppling such things.
Not to worry, if not my team, someone else will come along and do it. This is America, my friend, the land where the little guy actually can win. Yeah, yeah, I know, in every thing except d-1 football.
Rest well. Peace.
You're not even in the stratosphere of what I said. Then Edisto has the ignorance to thumbs up you!
Did you pull the wrong template or something? The big boy football was just to rustle your jimmies. What about the rest? You cried about the BCS which Boise benefited big time from it. Now they changed it, as you wanted them to do so badly, and it is going to crush Boise. Like I said be careful what you wish for! No comments with all that? But to stay with what you did post, is Boise ahead of anyone in the big money game? Were you not so proud to be expanding your stadium. You only cry because you're behind all the teams you desperately want to sit beside. However, they can raise the money and Boise can't. Instead of being honest and saying you envy them you dog them and play the martar! Doesn't seem to bother you when Boise with better facilities is beating up on the littler guys. All we hear is how great their record is. An OU fan even tried to back his post that OU could be considered the best team in the BCS era and you have to throw in your miraculous win over them in your smart ass style that only smile can do and mention he said a BCS conference! Hell yea a BCS conference. Again, big boy football~
And concerning your cute little comment to me of "Gotta luv ya, you are impeccably predictable and totally dismissive of anyone who would dare contradict your cozy little word view", you say so little but write so much. My cozy little world view is shared by about 90 percent of football fans! I never said a little program couldn't play good football. My gosh, Georgia Southern beat Florida last year. What you don't understand in your cozy little world view is Boise is not all that just because they have a good record. You have tried to cram their 12-1's and 13-0 records down our throat. You want to act like they are the king of football or has the best program because of their record and when you play peewee football teams you're going to be treated like one so keep writing those posts that continues to put words in people's mouth and paint a picture you want people to think they believe!
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Want your answer? Here it is! Not if a particular teams schedule is shit!!! So if you want a level playing ground step up! You noticed your counterparts, Utah and TCU, with similar success, can barely reach .500 in their new BCS conferences! I know I know! You come with the excuse of the timing they entered those conference. Coincidence huh? Funny how that never seemed to happen before?
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We'd love to. Trouble is Alabama played two FCS teams and a bottom end nonAQ team, one that Boise routinely beats by four touchdowns. So who are we supposed to play, when in the only games that our schools could ever meet, you good folks seem to prefer playing patty cake in Tuscaloosa. At least FSU had the guts to set up a home and home with Boise. So did Oregon, and others. Why not the Tide? Ah, don't bother to answer that, we all know the answer, don't we?
So careful about that "shit," you just stepped in it. Oops. Peace.
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We are now officially done! You bet smiles, Boise plays a much tougher schedule than Alabama and most of the other teams from BCS conferences. What was I thinking!
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Poor Boise.
Can't schedule good competition.
Can't schedule good competition.
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Bullshittttt. We went 12-0, cry about it. We earned victories.
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Kelly has had no issues developing players. Keeping them there sure, but I'm not sure if that's his fault or Northern Indiana's fault. Kelly is having to competely rebuild the program and is doing a fine job.
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Nah, you'll be back, Tee, you can't help yourself. Besides, all this post does is prove that you got out argued. You are way too bullheaded to ever do that! So you concede defeat?
You keep confusing strength of schedule with the quality of the team. You keep confusing conference games, which must be played with non-conference games that can be changed. As always, you fail to accept that your school CHOOSES to play all of those cream puffs OOC. The Tide could play anyone in the nation, anyone, if they were willing to do a home and home. But they won't. Instead, bring in FCS teams to Tuscaloosa. At least Boise plays teams with similar budgets and is always willing to travel, pretty much anywhere. Bama picks on schools with a fraction of the budget, only plays at home, or friendly "neutral" venues, and plays an FCS team every single year, hell, last year they played two of them. Meanwhile, Boise will be back in the heart of SEC country yet again to start the season next year. They've done that every year for the last decade. So Boise is willing, you guys? Not so much.
But I get it, you're "done" with me. I guess that means that I win. Sigh it's fun baiting you, Tee, enjoy your winter and summer. Peace.
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Smiles is kinda acting like a douche. Nobody thinks you won anything. You are just mad that Boise isn't even in the conversation of this thread.
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Yes this past year Florida played Toledo who had a winning record.
USC played Boston College who had the same amount of wins as Toledo.
Only an idiot would think they are the comparable teams but using your formulas Toledo would have a higher winning percentage (they lost and played one less game). next year USC goes back East to play Boston College. does Florida go play Toledo away in 2014? Nope they bring in the Eastern Michigan for another home layup with Eastern Kentucky as their second to the last game at home of course.
Go look for some Eastern Michigans or Toledos or Eastern Kentuckys, Florida Atlantics on USCs schedule. Try and find three a year like Florida has .
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My formulas? USC fans are not looking too good on this thread.
