Yankee Traveler
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What, 17...18 years ago???
He did okay with Moss and AB for his one game
That's because Tom said "I just throw it as hard as I can and Randy runs under it".
NE has always been best when they've had great route runners with better than average speed. David Givens, Deion Branch, David Patten, Danny Amendola all come to mind. Brady could depend on them to run exact routes and just throw the ball and they were there. The problem today is that these guys coming out of college are not disciplined enough and it takes at least two years to even 'start' to be in the same book, let alone the same page with Brady.
What, 17...18 years ago???
Well there was more to it than that. Still does not negate the fact saftie's are free to double team our sub par receivers because they know we have know team speed.
I envision a guy that can bring some of the dimension that Hill and Hardman give KC. Brady obviously can’t sling it downfield like Mahomes (though he’s historically a much better deep passer than his reputation suggests), but having a guy that safeties have to pay attention to, that corners have to give cushion to, and is a threat to go to the house any time the ball is in their hands would do a ton to open things up for the other receivers currently on the roster IMO.I also think it's not about a top tier speed WR, he could be very middle of the pack IMO. Just a go to make the safety have to cover. Toss him a few bones once in a while just a dude to keep defenses honest.
I envision a guy that can bring some of the dimension that Hill and Hardman give KC. Brady obviously can’t sling it downfield like Mahomes (though he’s historically a much better deep passer than his reputation suggests), but having a guy that safeties have to pay attention to, that corners have to give cushion to, and is a threat to go to the house any time the ball is in their hands would do a ton to open things up for the other receivers currently on the roster IMO.
I envision a guy that can bring some of the dimension that Hill and Hardman give KC. Brady obviously can’t sling it downfield like Mahomes (though he’s historically a much better deep passer than his reputation suggests), but having a guy that safeties have to pay attention to, that corners have to give cushion to, and is a threat to go to the house any time the ball is in their hands would do a ton to open things up for the other receivers currently on the roster IMO.
Why?Brady Brady Brady I get that we all keep referring to Brady but I don't care who the QB is we need speed period
Just being pragmatic about who is most likely to be this team’s QB next year. But otherwise obviously I agree with you this team needs to get faster on offense.Brady Brady Brady I get that we all keep referring to Brady but I don't care who the QB is we need speed period
Looking at what’s currently rostered on this team for skill position players, their draft pick capital, and cap space, can you come up with another solution to improve the offense that’s better than adding speed besides “we’ve never done it that way before?”Why?
Is it because speed has brought so many winning seasons to NE?
Or you just can't back off this speed thing?
Minus Moss when has NE really ever had that type of deep threat that teams needed to game plan for? It briefs well but it just isn't based on any factual numbers. NE has done pretty well 18 of the 20 years they've had Brady and his lack of a deep threat.
I'll meet you half way. If BB could go draft a speedy kick off/punt returner who could keep a D honest, even if he only gets a couple plays on offense a game I'd be happy with that. BB replace Bolden or Ebner with a return specialist. The last one I recall was Megget? Sure was nice having that threat like that. Gunner seems a little reckless back there and doesn't have that kind of speed. The limited carries he did have he was taking a lot of hits and didn't seem to be making great decisions on whether to fair catch or not?
In 2004 Patten had 60 catches for 800 yards and 8 TDs.Patten averaged just over 3 catches a game.
Bill has attempted multiple times to draft a speedster. Bethel comes to mind and I know there was at least another.
They didn't pan out. He has also traded or picked up FA speedsters. Moss was the most successful, but he is arguably the best deep threat all time and many would say best WR of all time, even with only one trick. No, I'm not trying to start a Moss vs Rice argument. Patterson, Cook, Dorsett, Stallworth most recently with less success than Moss. I would have rather seen bill keep Patterson over Dorsett last year as he was a dynamic Returner with ability out of the backfield to complement his (limited) receiving ability.
Patten could fly.In 2004 Patten had 60 catches for 800 yards and 8 TDs.
He wasn't fast, just seemed to be where Brady needed him to be. Died like wild flower after leaving the Pats.
Looking at what’s currently rostered on this team for skill position players, their draft pick capital, and cap space, can you come up with another solution to improve the offense that’s better than adding speed besides “we’ve never done it that way before?”
In 2004 Patten had 60 catches for 800 yards and 8 TDs.
He wasn't fast, just seemed to be where Brady needed him to be. Died like wild flower after leaving the Pats.