THE PAC12 Thread

[Olyduck]

Wisconsin fans are the new Oklahoma fans.

 

[Olyduck]

Utah +7 1/2 @ BYU

Utah State @ SoutherCal -7 1/2

Idaho @ WSU -31 1/2

Oregon State -11 1/2 @ San Diego State

New Mexico State @ UCLA -42 1/2

Idaho State @ Washington -48 1/2

Game of the Week

ASU @ Stanford -7 1/2

pick final score
ASU 34 Stanford 27

 

[MellowYellow]

BEAVER NEWS...

-1st win on the road against Utah since God knows when...69?....FIRST!

-"WHO DAT" leading the PAC North in the standings as of today? Looks like it's ours to lose now....HA!...FIRST!

-Mannion leading the country in tossing the rwak all over the rug...FIRST!

-A trip to sunny San Diego for a vacation this week...FIRST!

What OSU did with that patchwork O-line was very impressive. Utah was tied for 2nd in the nation entering the game and was held to zero sacks. Mannion had days to pass and lit up the Ute secondary.

However, Travis Wilson lit them up for 142 yards rushing and 3 rushing TDs. They need to get much better at stopping mobile QBs in order to be a legit contender for the North title. They also need a rushing attack.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Wisconsin fans are the new Oklahoma fans.

And the Wisky fans were begging that the game didn't come down to a FG because they said their kicker was terrible. Boy, bet they wish they could eat those words. Now all of the sudden they are claiming a win while the record book til the end of time will say otherwise.

Mouth<--------------- Insert Foot

 

[WhiteMamba]

However, Travis Wilson lit them up for 142 yards rushing and 3 rushing TDs. They need to get much better at stopping mobile QBs in order to be a legit contender for the North title. They also need a rushing attack.

 

[Ironbreaker]

What OSU did with that patchwork O-line was very impressive. Utah was tied for 2nd in the nation entering the game and was held to zero sacks. Mannion had days to pass and lit up the Ute secondary.

However, Travis Wilson lit them up for 142 yards rushing and 3 rushing TDs. They need to get much better at stopping mobile QBs in order to be a legit contender for the North title. They also need a rushing attack.

So what can we expect to see from the Aztecs in this game?

I really liked them to contend for the MWC crown this year before the season began. But then, well, the season began.

I have no clue on the aztecs at this pt.

 

[MellowYellow]

So what can we expect to see from the Aztecs in this game?

I really liked them to contend for the MWC crown this year before the season began. But then, well, the season began.

I have no clue on the aztecs at this pt.

I'm not quite sure on offense. Last year's starter Adam Dingwell got pulled vs. tOSU and is now our back-up QB. The new guy Quinn Kaehler is a jc transfer who is far more accurate and just as mobile. The problem is when the ball does reach our WRs hands, they don't know how to catch.

Adam Muema is a stud RB who keeps getting hurt this year. Our O-line looks terrible. It was man-handled vs. E. Illinois.

On D: Spread attacks kill us. We can pressure the QB...sometimes. But, if Mannion can pick the Utes apart, he can easily shread SDSU.

Unless OSU comes into the game prepared like their opener, SDSU has no shot.

We really suck this season. This is the worst team I've seen at SDSU since the Chuck 4th & Long Days.

 

[trojanfan12]

Utah +7 1/2 @ BYU

Utah State @ SoutherCal -7 1/2

Idaho @ WSU -31 1/2

Oregon State -11 1/2 @ San Diego State

New Mexico State @ UCLA -42 1/2

Idaho State @ Washington -48 1/2

Game of the Week

ASU @ Stanford -7 1/2

pick final score: Stanford 24 ASU 20

 

[mcnabb7542]

Wisconsin fans are the new Oklahoma fans.

I watched the replay last night, and I can not for the life of me understand as to why there acting like this, if anything they should be very happy there was a quick whistle, cause there is no way in hell that QB's knee was down, and you cant blame the ASU player laying on the ball, it was a fumble.....

 

[WizardHawk]

48 1/2? geez. I mean I know its a total garbage team, but that's a lot of points to eat. I imagine UW will be playing a lot of their young kids over much of this game to get them more experience for conference play.

 

[WizardHawk]

I watched the replay last night, and I can not for the life of me understand as to why there acting like this, if anything they should be very happy there was a quick whistle, cause there is no way in hell that QB's knee was down, and you cant blame the ASU player laying on the ball, it was a fumble.....

The QB did put his knee down, but from the reverse angle it didn't look like it touched. In college they only need to go through the motion anyway and the whistle was blown so the refs accepted the kneel. The refs clearly blew their responsibility on the play and it cost wisky a chance at a game winning FG. Of course there are no guarantees he makes it, but don't tell their fans that.

For whatever reason several B1G homer douchebags refuse to admit that the QB could have/should have just handed the ball to the umpire and there wouldn't have been a problem. His head coach said they practice this play every week and it was not done the way they practice, but their fans refuse to accept that had he done it right there would be no controversy here. His fault? No. The refs still blew it big time, but it was preventable and their totally butt hurt fans can't admit it.

They are blaming ASU and their fans and taking out on them as well. Not only ASU, but pretty much the whole Pac12 because you know we all paid off the refs to job them and steal a win for the Pac right?

Given our history with that region, good luck on ever hearing the end of it. GB fans still whine and moan over the 'fail mary' as if Seattle somehow intentionally screwed them out of a win and that game had so many bad calls its comical to suggest GB deserved a win even without that last play. They can't admit they were given a free TD to put them in contention to begin with. Same failed logic on the ASU deal. You won't ever hear the end of it and it will always be your fault. Just how they are.

 

[yeodonie]

Utah+7 1/2 @ BYU

Utah State @ SoutherCal-7 1/2

Idaho @ WSU -31 1/2

Oregon State -11 1/2 @ San Diego State

New Mexico State @ UCLA -42 1/2

Idaho State @ Washington -48 1/2

Game of the Week

ASU @ Stanford -7 1/2

pick final score: Stanford 30 ASU 24

 

[Not Neutral]

Utah+7 1/2 @ BYU

Utah State @ SoutherCal-7 1/2

Idaho @ WSU -31 1/2

Oregon State -11 1/2 @ San Diego State

New Mexico State @ UCLA -42 1/2

Idaho State @ Washington -48 1/2

Game of the Week

ASU @ Stanford -7 1/2

pick final score: Stanford 30 ASU 32

 

[Ironbreaker]

pick final score: Stanford 30 ASU 32

oooh a 32-30 ASU victory. That score is reminiscent of something but I can't quite place my finger on it.

 

[Vitamike]

nice. Let me know of you make it up this year.

steamed Oysters and grilled albacore on the menu for UCLA game.

Damn that sounds good mamba! Too bad I'll be out of town for two weeks just after the game, I'd might try and elbow my way to the party!

It sure would be cool if we both somehow end up undefeated to that point however there is a lot of football to be played and who the hell knows, UCLA could wet the bed vs New Mexico St come Saturday. I doubt it but crazier things have happened.

 

[Vitamike]

* is indicated for a winner of a week

**WhiteMamba 20-6-2
TrojanFan12 17-9-2
WizardHawk 17-9-2
963BUSC 16-10-2
4down20 16-10-2
VitaMike 15-11-2
Native Webfoot 14-4-1
OlyDuck 14-12-2
RegentDenali 14-12-2
NotNeutral 14-12-2
Wallace 13-13-2
*yeodonie 12-14-2
DayMan 10-8-1
ArizonaSting 10-16-2
IronBreaker 5-13-1
UtahUte 4-4-1
GeneH 3-5-1




For those that haven't done both weeks, I posted standings by wins not win %

Hey did you cover missing weeks?

Thought you did however if not those who missed a week should get no better than the lowest score for week 1 added to their week 2 total.

 

[Vitamike]

Ted Miller PAC12 Power Rankings Week 3

1. Oregon: The power rankings are about reacting to the latest games as well as the cumulative body of work and general perception of butt-kicking ability. The Ducks are now tops in all three. And after witnessing Mark Helfrich's tour-de-force presser following his team's bludgeoning of Tennessee, reporters realized we've still got some Chip Kelly wiseacre to enjoy.

2. Stanford: Stanford falls behind due to style points. Of course, Stanford knows that winning, if continued, will conquer style. The Cardinal just needs to keep doing the former, starting with an interesting visit from Arizona State on Saturday.

3. UCLA: The Bruins now own the highest quality win in the conference with Saturday's emotional 18-point come-from-behind victory at Nebraska. Furthermore, how the Bruins took care of business -- 38 consecutive points? Are you kidding me?! -- was freaking impressive on both sides of the ball. Jim Mora and his staff seem to be pretty good in a halftime locker room.

4. Washington: The Huskies took care of business on the road against a solid Illinois team. After Idaho State, the visit from Arizona on Sept. 28 will present a big test for both teams.

5. Arizona State: The Sun Devils looked like the superior team against Wisconsin, but that doesn't change the fact they nearly blew it and -- let's face it -- got lucky with how things went down at the end with Pac-12 officials Larry, Curly and Moe. Still, it was a good win since the scoreboard says it was. Now, what can the Sun Devils do on the road against Stanford?

6. Washington State: The Cougars should improve to 3-1 on Saturday against Idaho. Then they get Stanford in Seattle, the first of four consecutive games against North Division foes. It's a tough stretch, but it certainly looks closer to a potential 2-2 run than it did in August. And two wins puts the Cougs one win away from bowl eligibility with four games to play.

7. Arizona: The Wildcats have been the quietest team in the conference because they played three weak nonconference opponents. They have looked pretty good, with an improved defense being particularly noteworthy. But we still don't know these guys and won't until they go to Washington on Sept. 28.

8. Oregon State: That was a big, clutch win at Utah. A potential season-changer. The preseason perception was the Beavers had a good shot at a 7-0 start. It's not unreasonable to be leaning toward ending up 6-1 now, particularly if QB Sean Mannion keeps doing his NFL QB-looking thing. Next up is a visit to a San Diego State team that can't -- please, Beavs, no! -- can't be overlooked.

9. USC: Not unlike Oregon State getting off the carpet, the way USC handled Boston College was enough to suggest it's premature to throw in the white towel for the Trojans' 2013 season. Clancy Pendergast's defense has been dominant, for one. And just maybe the offense is starting to figure things out.

10. Utah: Ouch. So many "what ifs" from the home loss to Oregon State. A great comeback, only to fall in overtime. Again, ouch. It's probably good news that a visit to BYU is up next. That's a big emotional game, and the Utes need to move on from a big emotional game.

11. Colorado: The grudge match with Fresno State was canceled due to major flooding -- unquestionably the right call, by the way -- so the renewed Buffs were on the sidelines and again will be off this week. It will be interesting to see how two consecutive weekends without a game will affect the visit to Oregon State on Sept. 28. That's a sneaky interesting game.

12. California: The Bears are the only team in the conference with a losing record, though that is a function of tough scheduling against a pair of ranked Big Ten teams in two of the three weeks. If Cal had played Arizona's schedule, it would be 3-0 and we'd be celebrating new coach Sonny Dykes and true freshman QB Jared Goff. But, as it is, the 1-2 record stands as the only available body of work. And that defense? Pretty yucky so far, injuries or not.

And his week 3 bowl projections:

VIZIO BCS National Championship: Oregon vs. BCS
Rose Bowl Game Presented by VIZIO: Stanford vs. Big Ten
Valero Alamo: Washington vs. Big 12
Holiday: UCLA vs. Big 12
Hyundai Sun: Arizona State vs. ACC
Las Vegas: Arizona vs. MWC
Fight Hunger: Oregon State vs. BYU
Gildan New Mexico: Washington State vs. MWC
Pinstripe: USC vs. American
Heart of Dallas: Utah vs. Conference USA

Good work RD!

And you're right about CJM! He and that coaching staff of his can make some adjustments at half time.

TY First half Bruins have been outscored by their opponents 34-27
TY Second half Bruins have outscored their opponents 71-7

 

[Vitamike]

I watched the replay last night, and I can not for the life of me understand as to why there acting like this, if anything they should be very happy there was a quick whistle, cause there is no way in hell that QB's knee was down, and you cant blame the ASU player laying on the ball, it was a fumble.....

Saw a different angle on ESPN today and yep I would have bet dollars to donuts that he didn't put his knee down either however they froze the frame and his knee was CLEARLY down and there was no question about it what so ever.

I would have lost that bet for reals had I made it!

Look for it on ESPN, I'm sure you will see it too, there was no question.

 

[Sox33OSU]

Saw a different angle on ESPN today and yep I would have bet dollars to donuts that he didn't put his knee down either however they froze the frame and his knee was CLEARLY down and there was no question about it what so ever.

I would have lost that bet for reals had I made it!

Look for it on ESPN, I'm sure you will see it too, there was no question.

Well, there's that and, ya know, the refs seeing it and blowing the whistle, signifying the play was dead...

 

[mcnabb7542]

His head coach said they practice this play every week and it was not done the way they practice, but their fans refuse to accept that had he done it right there would be no controversy here. His fault? No. The refs still blew it big time, but it was preventable and their totally butt hurt fans can't admit it.

They are blaming ASU and their fans and taking out on them as well. Not only ASU, but pretty much the whole Pac12 because you know we all paid off the refs to job them and steal a win for the Pac right.

Not to beat a dead horse but,

It is what it is, the crew screwed up and they have "punished for it" maybe Badger fans need to get on the coaching staff a little, clock management wasn't that great to begin with, and I would be questioning just exactly were they trying to do cause I saw no FG unit rushing to kick the ball.....