THE PAC12 Thread

[Red_Alert]

I agree that we always rank well, but those rankings are based on average number of "stars" per recruit. USC still gets 4 and 5 star recruits, but we don't get as many because of the sanctions. When one of those 4 and 5 star recruits gets injured or simply doesn't pan out, then there isn't anyone to step in to replace them like there is when we have 85 scholarship players.

Example, as I pointed out earlier, Silas Redd has been out for the 1st 2 games because of recovering from knee surgery. The running back that is starting in his place is a converted linebacker and the guy backing him up is a true freshman!!

Trust me, when the sanctions came down, I figured that we'd skate through them relatively unscathed because of the level of talent that we bring in. However, I didn't count on the depth issue. Many of the offenses that we play against are designed to create depth issues for a team with 85 scholarship players. It creates even more of a depth issue with 67 scholarship players!!

It's easy to blame Kiffin because of all of the SEC hate for him and he certainly doesn't do himself any favors with his big, idiot mouth!! But when you look past that and see the true effect of the sanctions, it paints a little bit different picture.

Again, imagine your 'Huskers with 18 fewer scholarship players and think about what they'd look like!!

I know what you're saying.

Also Nebraska always has a few good walk-ons that contribute every year. So if they had USC's talent with those walk-on's filling the holes I'd think they'd be better. Problem is Nebraska's coaching staff is suspect as well.

Most blame Kiffin because he's never accomplished anything at the level of HC before. It's kind of a "show me" thing.

 

[trojanfan12]

I know what you're saying.

Also Nebraska always has a few good walk-ons that contribute every year. So if they had USC's talent with those walk-on's filling the holes I'd think they'd be better. Problem is Nebraska's coaching staff is suspect as well.

Most blame Kiffin because he's never accomplished anything at the level of HC before. It's kind of a "show me" thing.

I agree re: what he's accomplished, but look at the jobs he's gotten!!

His 1st head coaching job was the Raiders (enough said right there)!!

His 2nd was Tennessee coming off of a few lousy seasons and he improved them and got them to a bowl game!! Tennessee fans claim to be glad he's gone, but they rioted and tried to block him from leaving!!

Then he comes to USC just as we are hit with the worst sanctions since SMU and most coaches wanted nothing to do with the job!! Yet, after the first 2 games this season his record is 26-14 with 2 wins over UCLA and a win over Oregon at Autzen!!

I know of a few programs (including the one across town) that would take that kind of record with no sanctions!!

As for how Nebraska would do!! You sound an awful lot like myself and many USC fans right after the sanctions were handed down!!

 

[Red_Alert]

I agree re: what he's accomplished, but look at the jobs he's gotten!!

His 1st head coaching job was the Raiders (enough said right there)!!

His 2nd was Tennessee coming off of a few lousy seasons and he improved them and got them to a bowl game!! Tennessee fans claim to be glad he's gone, but they rioted and tried to block him from leaving!!

Then he comes to USC just as we are hit with the worst sanctions since SMU and most coaches wanted nothing to do with the job!! Yet, after the first 2 games this season his record is 26-14 with 2 wins over UCLA and a win over Oregon at Autzen!!

I know of a few programs (including the one across town) that would take that kind of record with no sanctions!!

As for how Nebraska would do!! You sound an awful lot like myself and many USC fans right after the sanctions were handed down!!

Never did understand Tennessee's meltdown. If a coach doesn't want to be here, don't let the door hit you in the ass.

 

[WhiteMamba]

PAC12 Pickem Standings after week 2

* is indicated for a winner of a week

OlyDuck 12-4-2
TrojanFan12 12-4-2
WizardHawk 12-4-2
*WhiteMamba 11-5-2
RegentDenali 11-5-2
4down20 10-6-2
VitaMike 10-6-2
NotNeutral 10-6-2
Wallace 9-7-2
*yeodonie 9-7-2
963BUSC 9-7-2
DayMan 6-2-1
Native Webfoot 6-2-1
ArizonaSting 6-10-2
UtahUte 4-4-1
GeneH 3-5-1
IronBreaker 3-5-1


For those that haven't done both weeks, I posted standings by wins not win %

 

[WizardHawk]

That means 4d20 is only 2 games off the pace. We can't let a non pac win the season can we?

 

[trojanfan12]

Never did understand Tennessee's meltdown. If a coach doesn't want to be here, don't let the door hit you in the ass.

I kind of understand, and it was more about timing!! Before they hired him, he told them that the only job he would leave for was USC!! Exactly no one expected the USC job to open the very next season!! So Tennessee fans felt they were lied to, because he made a lot of statements about what he was going to do there, has a winning season and then bolts for USC!! I seriously doubt that their fans knew about the USC provision!!

I agree though, if the coach doesn't want to be there, don't let the door hit ya because you're not going to get their best effort!!

 

[WhiteMamba]

That means 4d20 is only 2 games off the pace. We can't let a non pac win the season can we?

darn him and his fancy matrix!

 

[WizardHawk]

we know the conference games are going to create a lot of separation. Predicting those south match ups are going to give lots of us fits I'm sure.

 

[trojanfan12]

PAC12 Pickem Standings after week 2

* is indicated for a winner of a week

OlyDuck 12-4-2
TrojanFan12 12-4-2
WizardHawk 12-4-2
*WhiteMamba 11-5-2
RegentDenali 11-5-2
4down20 10-6-2
VitaMike 10-6-2
NotNeutral 10-6-2
Wallace 9-7-2
*yeodonie 9-7-2
963BUSC 9-7-2
DayMan 6-2-1
Native Webfoot 6-2-1
ArizonaSting 6-10-2
UtahUte 4-4-1
GeneH 3-5-1
IronBreaker 3-5-1


For those that haven't done both weeks, I posted standings by wins not win %

A Duck, a Trojan and a Husky sitting at the top tied with the same record!! There is parity in the PAC-12 after all!!

 

[trojanfan12]

darn him and his fancy matrix!

Should have taken the blue pill!!

 

[WhiteMamba]

Should have taken the blue pill!!

 

[WizardHawk]

A Duck, a Trojan and a Husky sitting at the top tied with the same record!! There is parity in the PAC-12 after all!!

Just shows you have more game than your HC

 

[trojanfan12]

Just shows you have more game than your HC

I'd have already settled on a starting qb, that's for sure!!

 

[trojanfan12]

They're kind of cheezy, but I have to admit to liking the Matrix movies!!

Those and the old Karate Kid movies except the 3rd one!!

 

[WhiteMamba]

love the Matrix

 

[trojanfan12]

love the Matrix

Yeah, me too!! My wife laughs because anytime I see any of the Matrix movies or the Karate Kid movies (except that 3rd one), I have to stop and watch at least part of it!!

To make it worse, I have all of both on dvd!!

 

[WizardHawk]

we just watched all 3 movies a couple of weeks ago. My wife had never 'gotten' the overall plot so we watched them all and I answered her questions. Not sure why, but most chicks I've known fail to get that movie series. Didn't think it was that hard of a concept to understand.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Yeah, me too!! My wife laughs because anytime I see any of the Matrix movies or the Karate Kid movies (except that 3rd one), I have to stop and watch at least part of it!!

To make it worse, I have all of both on dvd!!

My DVD/ BluRay collection is getting ridiculous.

Have all of both series as well.

 

[WhiteMamba]

we just watched all 3 movies a couple of weeks ago. My wife had never 'gotten' the overall plot so we watched them all and I answered her questions. Not sure why, but most chicks I've known fail to get that movie series. Didn't think it was that hard of a concept to understand.

lol. Thought it was just my mom and wife that didn't get it.

 

[trojanfan12]

we just watched all 3 movies a couple of weeks ago. My wife had never 'gotten' the overall plot so we watched them all and I answered her questions. Not sure why, but most chicks I've known fail to get that movie series. Didn't think it was that hard of a concept to understand.

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