The Cardinals are going to regret drafting Kyler Murray

[Soonertshirtfan]

So, you think being a poor man's Andy Dalton is success? Interesting...

lol.

Now this is butthurt^^^
Haskins went when he was supposed to, where he was supposed to.

 

[shopson67]

I like the Kingsbury hire. Always did. He know offense and it's an offensive league.

...and had a losing record in six years at Texas Tech. College is where this offense supposedly works, yet not so much with him at the helm. This reeks of a worse situation than Chip Kelly IMO, but we shall see.

 

[gob]

lol.

Now this is butthurt^^^
Haskins went when he was supposed to, where he was supposed to.

Butthurt? I never mentioned Haskins. I do wish the Bengals drafted him, because I think he'd be an upgrade over Dalton (probably not initially). That has no bearing on my feelings about Murray though. I've stated multiple times that I think Rosen will have a better career than Murray.

Onto Haskins, I want him to do succeed, so I am a little disappointed he went to the Redskins.

 

[shopson67]

Why? Instead of simply going with the herd, show me a list of all the shorter QB's that were given a chance to start in the NFL who never panned out.

It would definitely be a short list... no pun intended.

Not as short of a list as those who have succeeded in the NFL...

 

[CaptainStubing]

i think the vikings are going to regret giving Kirk Cousins a shitload of money

 

[eaglesnut]

And, they will be running Kingsbury's air raid offense which is predicated on getting the ball out quickly with a freakishly mobile QB.

Russell Wilson's success has come by holding on to the ball. This other way has never successfully been done by a 5'10 guy.

 

[Wamu]

Sure. If that was the basis of my opinion you would be right. Kyler isnt a full back with five gallons of heart that can throw a little. Neither did Kyler have the benefit of that badass defense.

Kyler is a pure passer with all of the throws. He also can run. Well.

One intangible that Kyler shares with Tebow is that he can put an entire team on his back and raise it to another level.

Once again, Im not butthurt. I just honestly disagree with the premise of the OP for the above reasons. Size is just a number. Skills are what count.

I didn't say the Cards would regret drafting Murray. I just don't like using college achievements to guess what any player will do in the NFL. Seen too many can't miss players be flops & unknowns have good/great careers. My bad if you thought I was singling out Murray.

 

[Wamu]

The one year he was actually given a chance to start, he led a below average team that started the season 1-4 to the playoffs. Not to shabby for a guy a lot of people say could never play QB in the NFL.

Go Broncos!

And how did his career end again? I'm not a Tebow hater but he wasn't a legit long term solution for any team. Nothing wrong w/ that. Plenty of college stars don't make it in the NFL.

 

[gob]

And, they will be running Kingsbury's air raid offense which is predicated on getting the ball out quickly with a freakishly mobile QB.
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You sure about that? Did he know this when he was coaching Tech?

Probably could have helped him keep his job, if so.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

...and had a losing record in six years at Texas Tech. College is where this offense supposedly works, yet not so much with him at the helm. This reeks of a worse situation than Chip Kelly IMO, but we shall see.

I know you hope it goes horribly bad. As you said, we shall see.

 

[Clayton]

Kyler Murray's success in college came from his first read or holding on to the ball for a long time. It was the stuff in the middle where his success rate dropped down. He'd either find the mismatch at OU (which was easy because there was always a mismatch), or he'd have some issues finding a plan B, or everything would break down and he'd either make a big run or big pass.

Murray does have a really good release and throws the best ball in the whole draft. I'm not fully sure where he is at with football IQ. I'm sure a Big 12 fan could cover that better than I could.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Not as short of a list as those who have succeeded in the NFL...

Show me the list.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Russell Wilson's success has come by holding on to the ball. This other way has never successfully been done by a 5'10 guy.

Show me an example of a 5'10" guy who has tried it in the NFL or any other qb 6' or under for that matter.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

You sure about that? Did he know this when he was coaching Tech?

Probably could have helped him keep his job, if so.

Yes. I am positive. He is freakishly mobile.

 

[gob]

Yes. I am positive. He is freakishly mobile.

I'm just curious to know why most of Tech's QBs were more pro-style when Kliff's offense needs freakishly mobile QBs.

 

[eaglesnut]

Show me an example of a 5'10" guy who has tried it in the NFL or any other qb 6' or under for that matter.

I'm just saying it hasn't been done.

Maybe he's the best 5'10 dude ever.

Most would have played baseball in the past.

 

[gob]

I'm just saying it hasn't been done.

Maybe he's the best 5'10 dude ever.

Most would have played baseball in the past.

Yep...heck, maybe I'm just a little risk averse, but I'm not the kind of person to bet big on someone becoming the "first ever" in something.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

I'm just curious to know why most of Tech's QBs were more pro-style when Kliff's offense needs freakishly mobile QBs.

Who said his system needs freakishly mobile QB's?

 

[gob]

Who said his system needs freakishly mobile QB's?

I don't know...which one of the voices in your head was it?

 

[Scooby-Doo]

I'm just saying it hasn't been done.

Maybe he's the best 5'10 dude ever.

Most would have played baseball in the past.

It may not work. Only time will tell.