Texas Rangers 2022 - 2023 Offseason Thread

[Kelleyman]

 

[Kelleyman]

Lol the Mets out staged the Yanks and Judge

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

Mets have shattered our spending record by over $200m

 

[Nightcrawler]

Radio silent rangers.

 

[saddles]

The only possible way to compete with the top spenders is to develop a large portion of the top talent you need to do so. Develop prospects and be prepared to play them. That includes taking some lumps when they are fresh on the scene and struggle initially.

Our owners may have one more big contract left in their future budget. We had better try to develop and use several of our prospects. Let's continue to find out which prospects we can use going forward, in 2023. Then we will be much better prepared to compete between 2024 and 2030.

It is imperative that we have several young and cheap, but very good players, during our window of opportunity.

Let's find out what we can this year about Duran, Smith, Huff, Owen White, Winn, Foscue, Harris, Bradford, Kent, Otto, Dunning, Ornelas and Crim. Some of them at the big league level and the rest at AAA.

The only trades we need to consider making are ones where prospects and veterans could bring back great young players with 6 or 7 years of control left.

If we win 88 games this year, instead of 92, but find out we have young players to use over the next 6 or 7 years, then we are much better off in the long run. We are not going to sniff a World Series in 2023 either way.

 

[Kelleyman]

Radio silent rangers.

Could be worse. We could be the Giants

 

[Kelleyman]

The only possible way to compete with the top spenders is to develop a large portion of the top talent you need to do so. Develop prospects and be prepared to play them. That includes taking some lumps when they are fresh on the scene and struggle initially.

Our owners may have one more big contract left in their future budget. We had better try to develop and use several of our prospects. Let's continue to find out which prospects we can use going forward, in 2023. Then we will be much better prepared to compete between 2024 and 2030.

It is imperative that we have several young and cheap, but very good players, during our window of opportunity.

Let's find out what can this year about Duran, Smith, Huff, Owen White, Winn, Foscue, Harris, Bradford, Kent, Otto, Dunning, Ornelas and Crim. Some of them at the big league level and the rest at AAA.

The only trades we need to consider making are ones where prospects and veterans could bring back great young players with 6 or 7 years of control left.

If we win 88 games this year, instead of 92, but find out we have young players to use over the next 6 or 7 years, then we are much better off in the long run. We are not going to sniff a World Series in 2023 either way.

Only caveat is maybe trade for relief with surplus in MILB. Some guys will need to be rostered next year and we need to be ready for that. Not to say some rostered guys can’t be moved

 

[saddles]

Only caveat is maybe trade for relief with surplus in MILB. Some guys will need to be rostered next year and we need to be ready for that. Not to say some rostered guys can’t be moved

Relief is the one and only area I would spend on. That is one area where we have no prospects, who even the most optimistic of us think can be depended on.

 

[Kelleyman]

 

[Duane1952]

This is an insane story

I wonder if what they found if anything in the physical.

 

[Duane1952]

The only possible way to compete with the top spenders is to develop a large portion of the top talent you need to do so. Develop prospects and be prepared to play them. That includes taking some lumps when they are fresh on the scene and struggle initially.

Our owners may have one more big contract left in their future budget. We had better try to develop and use several of our prospects. Let's continue to find out which prospects we can use going forward, in 2023. Then we will be much better prepared to compete between 2024 and 2030.

It is imperative that we have several young and cheap, but very good players, during our window of opportunity.

Let's find out what we can this year about Duran, Smith, Huff, Owen White, Winn, Foscue, Harris, Bradford, Kent, Otto, Dunning, Ornelas and Crim. Some of them at the big league level and the rest at AAA.

The only trades we need to consider making are ones where prospects and veterans could bring back great young players with 6 or 7 years of control left.

If we win 88 games this year, instead of 92, but find out we have young players to use over the next 6 or 7 years, then we are much better off in the long run. We are not going to sniff a World Series in 2023 either way.

The problem with that is, the Rangers have not been good at developing talent.

 

[Kelleyman]

Beautiful

 

[saddles]

The problem with that is, the Rangers have not been good at developing talent.

They have been even worse at spending their way to a WS appearance. Developing is our only chance. We definitely have to get better at development, but there is evidence to suggest that we have gotten some better.

I am not saying it is going to definitely lead to a Championship, but I do believe it is the way with the higher percentage chance of success.

 

[saddles]

I would say that the development of Feliz, Holland, Harrison, Elvis, Young, Kinsler, Ogando, Moreland and Feldman was a huge part of our 2011 success. You could add trading for a very young Murphy to that as well.

 

[Kelleyman]

I would say that the development of Feliz, Holland, Harrison, Elvis, Young, Kinsler, Ogando, Moreland and Feldman was a huge part of our 2011 success. You could add trading for a very young Murphy to that as well.

So we need to reproduce the 5 pitchers mentioned. We may already have our Young signed via FA. Maybe Crim or another can be our Moreland and another OF. Hoping Jung will be the first success

 

[saddles]

So we need to reproduce the 5 pitchers mentioned. We may already have our Young signed via FA. Maybe Crim or another can be our Moreland and another OF. Hoping Jung will be the first success

Lol. Well, as long as we also have a Hamilton, a Beltre, and a Napoli.

Seriously though, we have a good deal more minor league talent to work with now. Although, the development that made up the 2011 team came about over the course of a few years, so maybe the chances now are equal to then.

 

[Duane1952]

I would say that the development of Feliz, Holland, Harrison, Elvis, Young, Kinsler, Ogando, Moreland and Feldman was a huge part of our 2011 success. You could add trading for a very young Murphy to that as well.

Did they really develop Harrison and Young. They were acquired in trades of other organizations.

 

[Kelleyman]

Minor move

 

[saddles]

Did they really develop Harrison and Young. They were acquired in trades of other organizations.

As much as they will Smith, Duran, and Harris. Dunning and Otto too. Let's not include Howard or any of the other two spares we traded Gibson and Crouse for, lol.

I am using the term "develop" loosely because the emphasis is on having the player under control from when he hits the majors until he is eligible for free agency. The whole emphasis of my original post was to say we need longterm, cheap talent to play around the few free agents that can be acquired. Whether they draft the prospect, sign him as an international free agent, or trade for him before he hits the big leagues, it all works the same.

Some of those other guys I mentioned were acquired in trades as well, like Feliz and Andrus.

 

[saddles]

Minor move

There's the OF axquosition everyone was expecting.