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Exactly why a vote for the winner is stupid for the GAME, but critical for the SHOW.

I don’t follow. Even if there are different ways to play a game there are going to be better players playing a better game.

There are many strategies. But it’s the execution that wins.

The loyalty game is great. But it has its flaws. For example, it doesn’t help jury management.

Sue’s problem was that she only played the loyal game. That was her only game. She barely talked to people outside of her alliances.

So only her alliances understood her game.
 

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Loyalty, lapdog, tomato, tomato...

Actually her loyalty game was doing the dirty job. Actually surprised that it was Rachel who hid in the bushes and listened to the group. Would have guessed that would have been sue.
 

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surprised that we forgot to bump this thread for the new season... already 3 weeks in


but boy is Cedric the dumbest player this season... Sai might be the worst player this season, she plays like a mob boss, but doesn't know that she has no power...
but Cedric's move in the tribal council has to be up there for one of the worst decisions of all time... and handled even worse...
 

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surprised that we forgot to bump this thread for the new season... already 3 weeks in


but boy is Cedric the dumbest player this season... Sai might be the worst player this season, she plays like a mob boss, but doesn't know that she has no power...
but Cedric's move in the tribal council has to be up there for one of the worst decisions of all time... and handled even worse...
Justin was a moron. No way would I have wanted to play with him moving forward.
 

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Interesting happenings at the Tribal, though. I would assume that if Cedric and Sai were the ones to receive votes, Justin would have been eliminated automatically? He would have been required to cast the final vote or be eliminated, but since he didn’t have the ability to cast a vote, he would have been eliminated by default.
 

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Justin was a moron. No way would I have wanted to play with him moving forward.

oddly enough... Mary seems like the only good player on that tribe,... but why do you say that about Justin?? sure he lied, and it was a bad lie... but he was still loyal to Cedric...

Cedric voting out Justin was possibly the dumbest move ever... because he voted out Sai twice first...

but luckily for all three, looks like next week is a reset... we will see how it gets reset, and who gets screwed over...
 

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oddly enough... Mary seems like the only good player on that tribe,... but why do you say that about Justin?? sure he lied, and it was a bad lie... but he was still loyal to Cedric...

Cedric voting out Justin was possibly the dumbest move ever... because he voted out Sai twice first...

but luckily for all three, looks like next week is a reset... we will see how it gets reset, and who gets screwed over...
It was a lie with no positive outcome. They would know he lost his vote. He had no exit strategy from the lie. He should have told Cedric then worked on a strategy with him to do something. Instead he guaranteed that he was coming out of the tribal as a liar.
 

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It was a lie with no positive outcome. They would know he lost his vote. He had no exit strategy from the lie. He should have told Cedric then worked on a strategy with him to do something. Instead he guaranteed that he was coming out of the tribal as a liar.

IDK, Cedric and sai seemed confused enough that if Mary went home they would not have realized... but Mary being safe killed that, even if Sai and Cedric were smart, Jeff would not have read all three... he would have only needed to read 2...

so if Mary went home nobody would have ever known he lied...
 

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Pretty powerful episode last night.

We also have a villain that always escapes being voted out.

Lastly, these people would be idiots to let Joe or Ava get to the end, right?
 

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Pretty powerful episode last night.

We also have a villain that always escapes being voted out.

Lastly, these people would be idiots to let Joe or Ava get to the end, right?
I think that whole thing killed both of their games. They are shown to be a power couple, they are both competitive, and Ava (Eva?) has a story now that would be tough to beat in a final 3.

I can’t wait to see how Joe and Christy get along. They are both career firefighters of the same general age. They will either clash HARD or be a strong team. They would be an obvious couple, though.
 

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And I am kinda crushing on Ava (Eva?). I absolutely LOVE the cute girl-next-door type with some irl issues that she is working through. And she has a hot little body on her to boot.
 

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And I am kinda crushing on Ava (Eva?). I absolutely LOVE the cute girl-next-door type with some irl issues that she is working through. And she has a hot little body on her to boot.

I have to laugh at the production. Eva has autism. Sure. But a mild case. But the production really wants to make this girl out to be such a hero.
 

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I have to laugh at the production. Eva has autism. Sure. But a mild case. But the production really wants to make this girl out to be such a hero.
But it is too early for it to be a winner’s edit. She won’t last long.
 

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now we are in the merge... here are my most likely to win list in order

1. Kyle- the strategy with Kamilla, and nobody knowing about their final 2, and now joining the 5 competitors who wont target him, he is just in great shape right now..
2. Kamilla- she could be one of the best strategists we have seen in this game in a long time... and she is being protected by kyle even if it is all a secret
3. Mary- i think she is my wild card this season... not sure what about her, but she seems like a quiet assassin... and if she can get tight with Kamilla, then that Kyle Kamilla Mary trio will be scary...
4. Joe-
5. Ava-
6. David
7. Star( she is not going to be a target for a while as she was "kind" to Ava- which keeps her off Joe's list... and Cedrek and her bonded..
8. Shauhin- Joe's number one, but Joe will protect Ava over him... if needed...
9. mitch-kind of an easy target, but he is quiet enough to not be an immediate target
10. Chrissy- I want her to be higher, but she just hasnt done anything yet, and seems behind in the "alliances" also seems like she is Cedrek's number one and Cedrek seems like an easy out right now...
11. Cedrek- easy collateral damage player... not great at comps... seems loyal to a fault...
12. Sai- might be one of the worst players in this game history.... never heard of a mob boss who only ever had themselves...
 

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now we are in the merge... here are my most likely to win list in order

1. Kyle- the strategy with Kamilla, and nobody knowing about their final 2, and now joining the 5 competitors who wont target him, he is just in great shape right now..
2. Kamilla- she could be one of the best strategists we have seen in this game in a long time... and she is being protected by kyle even if it is all a secret
3. Mary- i think she is my wild card this season... not sure what about her, but she seems like a quiet assassin... and if she can get tight with Kamilla, then that Kyle Kamilla Mary trio will be scary...
4. Joe-
5. Ava-
6. David
7. Star( she is not going to be a target for a while as she was "kind" to Ava- which keeps her off Joe's list... and Cedrek and her bonded..
8. Shauhin- Joe's number one, but Joe will protect Ava over him... if needed...
9. mitch-kind of an easy target, but he is quiet enough to not be an immediate target
10. Chrissy- I want her to be higher, but she just hasnt done anything yet, and seems behind in the "alliances" also seems like she is Cedrek's number one and Cedrek seems like an easy out right now...
11. Cedrek- easy collateral damage player... not great at comps... seems loyal to a fault...
12. Sai- might be one of the worst players in this game history.... never heard of a mob boss who only ever had themselves...
The only thought I had on 1 and 2 is paranoia.

That is, at some point, Kyle and Kamilla might think the other is going to target them and act on it.
And I would put good money on Kamilla being the one to vote Kyle out before final 5.
 

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The only thought I had on 1 and 2 is paranoia.

That is, at some point, Kyle and Kamilla might think the other is going to target them and act on it.
And I would put good money on Kamilla being the one to vote Kyle out before final 5.

I can see that... I just didnt want to put kamilla over Kyle because Kyle is better protected... and i can see David targeting Kamilla... with him openly targeting the puzzlers and strategists...

but that is also one of the reasons david is below Joe and Ava on my list... i see him being the first of the 5 to be the "easy" target...

shauhin is the lowest of the 5 because of 2 reasons, i see him as the most likely to openly defect... as he knows Joe will protect AVA over him.. also, with Ava having an immunity necklace. shauhin is easier to get out than Joe is......


But i think overall i am rooting for Mary this season... and i am not sure why yet... she impressed me in that last competition... i think she is a surprise physical threat... and she seems like she is a smart player who is having fun...
 

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I can see that... I just didnt want to put kamilla over Kyle because Kyle is better protected... and i can see David targeting Kamilla... with him openly targeting the puzzlers and strategists...

but that is also one of the reasons david is below Joe and Ava on my list... i see him being the first of the 5 to be the "easy" target...

shauhin is the lowest of the 5 because of 2 reasons, i see him as the most likely to openly defect... as he knows Joe will protect AVA over him.. also, with Ava having an immunity necklace. shauhin is easier to get out than Joe is......


But i think overall i am rooting for Mary this season... and i am not sure why yet... she impressed me in that last competition... i think she is a surprise physical threat... and she seems like she is a smart player who is having fun...
Mary has a pretty good read on the game.

Sai really believes Mary is working with her.
Mary's confessionals tell us otherwise.

I know Sai is last on your list, but if I'm really thinking endgame, I want Sai in the final three, especially if I'm Mary.
 
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