Survivor

[calsnowskier]

when does Rachel and Sue's idol expire??

At 6

 

[calsnowskier]

Why did Andy flip ? Did he realize he was 5th in the pecking order of the “ underdog group “. Or did he want to put the biggest stamp on this particular game. Im going with the latter and he succeeded. I remember when he was introduced in episode 1 , he was talking about pairs and numbers. He has to have a plan off of Operation Italy. I mean he is friendly with all of them as is Teeny.

Right now it appears that its

Sam , Jen , Andy. Vs. Sue, Rachel , Tenny

Of course the girls tribe has 2 idols and a steal a vote they can use. The thing is im not sure who knows what about the idols. It seems like the only one that new about Sues was Caroline.

Depends on who wins the necklace. But we KNOW that Teeny wants Sam out (because the trans chic is SUPER anti-male.?.?.?). I figure maybe Gen wins the necklace, Sue and Rachel are safe and the girls focus on Sam with Rachel blocking Sam’s vote. Sam walks out on a 3-2 vote.

 

[calsnowskier]

Teeny also mentioned during Tribal that there was a clear pecking order amongst the last seven. Andy had to know that if Sam went he was next in the pecking order. He had to swap to save himself later in the game.

But that comment was after Operation Italy was put together.

 

[obxyankeefan]

But that comment was after Operation Italy was put together.

Yes but before Andy had voted.

 

[calsnowskier]

Yes but before Andy had voted.

He was committed to the vote. OI made sense and he put a lot of work into getting it going.

Granted, though, Teeny saying that removed any chance that Andy would “flip” on Sam and Gen.

 

[Sparhawk]

i wanna see how andy handles the consequences of operation italy... there is no reason to tell the other side about operation italy... but he probably will as he is very flighty and wants to take ownership for his move... he has to tell why he jumped, but he should be telling a story, and not the truth...

I think he'll flip again and try to convince Rachel and Teeny to get rid of Sam/Gen.
Conversely, Sam and Gen will be doing the same thing to get rid of Andy as the 'biggest' threat after that move.

Sue will get drug along to the final.

Rachel has to survive 6.
If one of Sam/Gen/Andy go, then Rachel pulls in Sue and Teeny to have the numbers advantage at 5.
Whichever of Sam/Gen/Andy that is left has to win immunity and beat Rachel at firemaking to have any chance of winning.

 

[All-Star Benchwarmer]

I have to say, this is probably the best season I've seen in the last few years. I actually know the names of the last few contestants and Operation Italy was well played.

 

[Sparhawk]

Solid episode.

Only surprise now would be Sam winning the immunity challenge and eliminating Rachel in firemaking.
Otherwise, should be a slam dunk win for Rachel.

 

[All-Star Benchwarmer]

There is no way Teeny or Sue wins, unless we get another butthurt jury. Teeny and Sue's reumés are not existent, and Teeny has been left out/wrong side of the vote for the last few weeks.

Andy was a dumbass. He should have kept his mouth shut and let Rachel continue thinking he had no game. That would have put the target on Sam/Genevieve (jury votes for him) and he could have skated to the final four.

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

Solid episode.

Only surprise now would be Sam winning the immunity challenge and eliminating Rachel in firemaking.
Otherwise, should be a slam dunk win for Rachel.

I agree. I really thought they might vote out Sam just for that reason. Immunity threat as well as fire threat.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Solid episode.

Only surprise now would be Sam winning the immunity challenge and eliminating Rachel in firemaking.
Otherwise, should be a slam dunk win for Rachel.

as long as rachel is making fire, there is a risk of her going home... this is nowhere near a shoe-in... especially when she is the clear favourite...

 

[MilkSpiller22]

There is no way Teeny or Sue wins, unless we get another butthurt jury. Teeny and Sue's reumés are not existent, and Teeny has been left out/wrong side of the vote for the last few weeks.

Andy was a dumbass. He should have kept his mouth shut and let Rachel continue thinking he had no game. That would have put the target on Sam/Genevieve (jury votes for him) and he could have skated to the final four.

sue's game is not as bad as it comes off... but she is one of those who is only social to her loyalties... she is not trying to have a social game with people she plans on voting off... but she played the best loyalty game this season... Caroline and Gabe were always her shields.... and she did all their dirty work...

not to mention she found an idol... not saying she should win... but she is more deserving than Gen, Teeny and Sam...

 

[Sparhawk]

as long as rachel is making fire, there is a risk of her going home... this is nowhere near a shoe-in... especially when she is the clear favourite..

According to the edit, everyone thinks Rachel kills at firemaking.

I haven't seen it, but multiple people have said it on the show.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

According to the edit, everyone thinks Rachel kills at firemaking.

I haven't seen it, but multiple people have said it on the show.

so?? how many times in the past was there a huge favourite firemaker, and everyone was shocked that someone else won?? happens all the time on this show....

i agree that if Rachel is final 3 she will win no matter who she faces... but lets not pretend that it is set in stone... hell, she is more likely to be in fire than anyone else...

 

[MilkSpiller22]

also, @calsnowskier has been saying Teeny is going to win this whole time thanks to the edit... which really sucks that he can be right still.... but that would mean Rachel is not a final 3...

but is Sue that unliked that Teeny would beat her... when sue has done so much more...

 

[MilkSpiller22]

every season i like to give a WHO PLAYED THE WORST GAME award to the Jury or better....

this year it is clearly Gen IMO....

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I have to say, this is probably the best season I've seen in the last few years. I actually know the names of the last few contestants and Operation Italy was well played.

it will be if rachel wins... if any of the others win, then it cant be a good season if the winner sucks...

 

[calsnowskier]

also, @calsnowskier has been saying Teeny is going to win this whole time thanks to the edit... which really sucks that he can be right still.... but that would mean Rachel is not a final 3...

but is Sue that unliked that Teeny would beat her... when sue has done so much more...

Teeny has gotten a HORRIBLE edit the last few weeks, though. Last night it was pretty much ALL about how she had no idea what was going on in the game the whole season. That is almost disqualifying for a winner.

The edit got on the “Rachel train” late, but it did eventually get there.

I don’t see anyone except Teeny (PURELY based on edit) or Rachel winning. Sue was been the bumbler and Sam has been the grasper. Neither of those are winning narratives.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Teeny has gotten a HORRIBLE edit the last few weeks, though. Last night it was pretty much ALL about how she had no idea what was going on in the game the whole season. That is almost disqualifying for a winner.

The edit got on the “Rachel train” late, but it did eventually get there.

I don’t see anyone except Teeny (PURELY based on edit) or Rachel winning. Sue was been the bumbler and Sam has been the grasper. Neither of those are winning narratives.

Sue would have been interesting with a better edit... i think she actually played the game decently...

not saying she should beat rachel... no, rachel played one of the best games that i can remember.... she wasnt a mafia boss, like Dee was 2 seasons ago, but she played the game that she could...

not sure who i would compare her with... actually i would compare her with Ian from Big Brother...

Both played the smart strategic game... mostly quiet, but won competitions when they had to... quiet assassin..

 

[All-Star Benchwarmer]

it will be if rachel wins... if any of the others win, then it cant be a good season if the winner sucks...

I said probably. There's still time to disappoint me...