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Anyone think Sam may have thrown the immunity challenge ? Just a thought. Sure immunity would have assured him safety this vote but afterwards who knows. The plan does not work if he or Gen wins. Again the layers to this are crazy.
 

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Great episode. Great plan. Great naration.

i figured it was Caroline’s time to go. Every other player (except maybe Sam) has had a legit-ish edit this season. Watching her play, she should have had a much stronger edit.

Updated rankings…

Teeny (REALLY bad episode for her, though. She came across as a real heel this week)
Andy (He may be surpassing Teeny, edit-wise)
Rachel (She was called out as the biggest threat, but won the idol to save herself. She is being portrayed as Goliath. I think she is getting fattened for the winner to dine on, though)

Gen (redemption episode for her story. I just don’t get the sense she has had a winners edit)

Sue (still just a clown character)
Sam (just living in Andy’s world)
 

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Although Rachel has played a good game and would be deserving of the win , she has been really blessed by the Survivor Gods along the way. She was all but gone when she was left on her own with tthe Tuku tribe , only to be saved by Sol.

She also just happened to buy the french fries at the auction which also contained a clue which led her to her immunity idol.

Then the journey , she drew rocks to see who got to go. Now i think she was probably the only one that could have solved the puzzle for the steal a vote.

She has definitely had some luck. Good player though.
 

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Although Rachel has played a good game and would be deserving of the win , she has been really blessed by the Survivor Gods along the way. She was all but gone when she was left on her own with tthe Tuku tribe , only to be saved by Sol.

She also just happened to buy the french fries at the auction which also contained a clue which led her to her immunity idol.

Then the journey , she drew rocks to see who got to go. Now i think she was probably the only one that could have solved the puzzle for the steal a vote.

She has definitely had some luck. Good player though.

Other than the auction, she created that luck... similar to how she would have been the main target in operation italy, but she got lucky that it was a comp she was able to win...

with caroline out, who was my dark horse winner, i only really see 2 people that SHOULD win this... and thats Andy and Rachel... all others i have big issues with them winning...

i wanna see how andy handles the consequences of operation italy... there is no reason to tell the other side about operation italy... but he probably will as he is very flighty and wants to take ownership for his move... he has to tell why he jumped, but he should be telling a story, and not the truth...
 

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Other than the auction, she created that luck... similar to how she would have been the main target in operation italy, but she got lucky that it was a comp she was able to win...

with caroline out, who was my dark horse winner, i only really see 2 people that SHOULD win this... and thats Andy and Rachel... all others i have big issues with them winning...

i wanna see how andy handles the consequences of operation italy... there is no reason to tell the other side about operation italy... but he probably will as he is very flighty and wants to take ownership for his move... he has to tell why he jumped, but he should be telling a story, and not the truth...
Save the truth for Final Tribal...
 

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Other than the auction, she created that luck... similar to how she would have been the main target in operation italy, but she got lucky that it was a comp she was able to win...

with caroline out, who was my dark horse winner, i only really see 2 people that SHOULD win this... and thats Andy and Rachel... all others i have big issues with them winning...

i wanna see how andy handles the consequences of operation italy... there is no reason to tell the other side about operation italy... but he probably will as he is very flighty and wants to take ownership for his move... he has to tell why he jumped, but he should be telling a story, and not the truth...
They made a point of adding a story to tell as part of Operation Italy.
 

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now, if i were gen, i would tell the 3 girls the truth, and target Andy... nobody wants to go to rocks...
Her edit narrative the last few weeks has been how she has played in a heartless way and that she doesn’t like that. Then they show that she and Sam have developed a friendship. Her story would complete (narrative-wise) by her falling on her sword for Sam. But narrative-wise, Sam doesn’t deserve it. Nothing in the edit has hinted at Sam deserving his spot at this point of the game.
 

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Her edit narrative the last few weeks has been how she has played in a heartless way and that she doesn’t like that. Then they show that she and Sam have developed a friendship. Her story would complete (narrative-wise) by her falling on her sword for Sam. But narrative-wise, Sam doesn’t deserve it. Nothing in the edit has hinted at Sam deserving his spot at this point of the game.

sure... but her friendship is with Sam, not Andy... getting Andy out would be another day of her and Sam in the game...

if Andy is not the one that goes home next, then either he won immunity or someone made a big mistake...
 

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sure... but her friendship is with Sam, not Andy... getting Andy out would be another day of her and Sam in the game...

if Andy is not the one that goes home next, then either he won immunity or someone made a big mistake...
They made a point of showing the jury comment on Andy after the tribal.

”That was all Andy.”

”Andy flipped AGAIN.”
 

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So rankings are ?????

1. Rachel
2. Gen
3, Andy

4. Sue, Sam , Teeny
 

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They made a point of showing the jury comment on Andy after the tribal.

”That was all Andy.”

”Andy flipped AGAIN.”


right... andy is playing the game... but he is enjoying the game too much... he cares more about strategy week to week than the big picture... Gen is the same way, but her big moves didnt make sense... Andys did make sense at the time... he is just in a terrible position right now...
 

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My first official final 3 prediction…

Andy
Teeny
Sue

This is a horrible final 3, but based on edit (I expect Teeny to win), I need to find a final 3 where she can win. My only problem with this is I am not sure who among those 3 can beat any of the other 4 in fire. But we have not seen any fire making by anyone yet, so it is hard to judge anyone on that yet.
I stand behind this final 3. Rachael will either lose fire or get taken out as the “clear winner” at 5. She and Sue are both safe at 6 (unless they play their idols stupidly).

I expect Sam to go out at 6.
 

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So rankings are ?????

1. Rachel
2. Gen
3, Andy

4. Sue, Sam , Teeny


if it is the who should win:

1. Rachel
2. Andy




3. Sue
4. Gen
5. Teeny
6. Sam


if it is who i think will win

1. Rachel
2. Teeny
3. Gen
4. Andy
5. Sue
6. Sam
 

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I stand behind this final 3. Rachael will either lose fire or get taken out as the “clear winner” at 5. She and Sue are both safe at 6 (unless they play their idols stupidly).

I expect Sam to go out at 6.


when does Rachel and Sue's idol expire??
 

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Why did Andy flip ? Did he realize he was 5th in the pecking order of the “ underdog group “. Or did he want to put the biggest stamp on this particular game. Im going with the latter and he succeeded. I remember when he was introduced in episode 1 , he was talking about pairs and numbers. He has to have a plan off of Operation Italy. I mean he is friendly with all of them as is Teeny.

Right now it appears that its

Sam , Jen , Andy. Vs. Sue, Rachel , Tenny

Of course the girls tribe has 2 idols and a steal a vote they can use. The thing is im not sure who knows what about the idols. It seems like the only one that new about Sues was Caroline.
 

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Why did Andy flip ? Did he realize he was 5th in the pecking order of the “ underdog group “. Or did he want to put the biggest stamp on this particular game. Im going with the latter and he succeeded. I remember when he was introduced in episode 1 , he was talking about pairs and numbers. He has to have a plan off of Operation Italy. I mean he is friendly with all of them as is Teeny.

Right now it appears that its

Sam , Jen , Andy. Vs. Sue, Rachel , Tenny

Of course the girls tribe has 2 idols and a steal a vote they can use. The thing is im not sure who knows what about the idols. It seems like the only one that new about Sues was Caroline.

it was pretty clear he was low on the pecking order in the underdog group... Sue and Caroline were very tight... so it was them 2 and the other 3... and sure him and rachel were getting closer, they were on strategically close... not a real duo... and everyone liked teeny... he was also the only male... i am sure he knew all this...

he also has been playing for the fun of the game too much... and is naturally flighty...

so him flipping made sense, and was probably the right move....
 

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Teeny also mentioned during Tribal that there was a clear pecking order amongst the last seven. Andy had to know that if Sam went he was next in the pecking order. He had to swap to save himself later in the game.
 
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