Survivor

[MilkSpiller22]

I said probably. There's still time to disappoint mem

Oh. I know. Just saying with this final 4 if anyone but Rachel wins it all then we are given a bad winner.

Can it be a good season if we get a bad winner??

 

[calsnowskier]

Oh. I know. Just saying with this final 4 if anyone but Rachel wins it all then we are given a bad winner.

Can it be a good season if we get a bad winner??

The season was well played overall. And sometimes, an “on your heels” game is actually a good way to play. Let the heavy weights knock each other out while just stay out of the line of fire (Sam, Sue).

Teeny did NOTHING, which is why her dominance in the edit stood out to me so much.

Basically, I think a season CAN be good, even if the winner is crap-ish.

 

[All-Star Benchwarmer]

Spoiler: Final 4

Say bye-bye to the butthurt Teeny. She had a huge lead in fire making and blew it. Too bad she wasn't a jock growing up, it really would have helped her!!!

 

[calsnowskier]

SOOOOOO glad that little wanna-be he-bitch didn’t win. I have no idea why she got the edit she got this season. My only theory is identity, but she was not a good representation, so why would they do that?

Sam rocked the final council. His clap back at Rachel MIGHT have actually earned my vote if I were in the jury. But realistically, Rachel rightfully won.

 

[Sparhawk]

Sam rocked the final council. His clap back at Rachel MIGHT have actually earned my vote if I were in the jury. But realistically, Rachel rightfully won.

I would have to believe the edit made it look closer than it seemed.
They didn't show Rachel talking that much, so there may have been more left on the cutting floor that we didn't get to see.

That being said, this was a decisive win and if Kyle weren't in la la land, it would have been unanimous.

Probably the best season of the new era.

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

If i just wached the last episode and none of the others - Sam would have gotten my vote. I thought he dominated the jury questions. He did say he had a perfect voting record. Im guessing he probably didnt have a vote when Sierra was voted out.

The fire - as much as I disliked Teeny, her rope had to be stronger than Sams. I thought she dominated him in the fire challenge. The wind obviously hurt her some but she was near that rope a long time. As much as Sam made it look like Rachel lucked out with some things , i thought he was very lucky in the fire.

I thought Rachel had a rough jury questioning. That surprised me. Poor Sue really thought she had a chance. Loved the way Gabe noticed she was being left out of the questioning and asked her to follow up on her experience.

We knew all along Rachel was a good player. As a fan that doesnt pay attention to the edits and sorts, I really dont think the show did Gabe justice on how good of a player he might have been. I could be wrong.

 

[calsnowskier]

Seriously?

Nothing for “wanna-be he-bitch”?

I was actually kinda proud of that one.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

If i just wached the last episode and none of the others - Sam would have gotten my vote. I thought he dominated the jury questions. He did say he had a perfect voting record. Im guessing he probably didnt have a vote when Sierra was voted out.

The fire - as much as I disliked Teeny, her rope had to be stronger than Sams. I thought she dominated him in the fire challenge. The wind obviously hurt her some but she was near that rope a long time. As much as Sam made it look like Rachel lucked out with some things , i thought he was very lucky in the fire.

I thought Rachel had a rough jury questioning. That surprised me. Poor Sue really thought she had a chance. Loved the way Gabe noticed she was being left out of the questioning and asked her to follow up on her experience.

We knew all along Rachel was a good player. As a fan that doesnt pay attention to the edits and sorts, I really dont think the show did Gabe justice on how good of a player he might have been. I could be wrong.

nah.. we noticed Gabe... I know I did...

and I thought sue should have had a better chance... but she was proud of the wrong thing... her game was loyalty, but she wanted to focus on her age, which actually kind of hurt her.. because she LIED...

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

Seriously?

Nothing for “wanna-be he-bitch”?

I was actually kinda proud of that one.

What is her story. ? I never understood the Zeke person either. Teeny is a female right?? At least thats what i saw her as.

 

[calsnowskier]

What is her story. ? I never understood the Zeke person either. Teeny is a female right?? At least thats what i saw her as.

She is a she. But she is confused (essentially her words, not mine).

There is some serious jealousy going on there with her INTENSE man-hate, yet kinda considering herself one. That thing has some MAJOR issues.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

SOOOOOO glad that little wanna-be he-bitch didn’t win. I have no idea why she got the edit she got this season. My only theory is identity, but she was not a good representation, so why would they do that?

Sam rocked the final council. His clap back at Rachel MIGHT have actually earned my vote if I were in the jury. But realistically, Rachel rightfully won.

i agree sam rocked the final council... he understood his game and glorified it... which is what everyone looks for... problem was that everyone including him knew his resume was just not good enough... but he certainly did everything he could... he was the only one of the final three that understood their own game...

Rachel was too fixated on herself being an underdog... but that just didnt look good on her, as she was the favourite for so long....even the week when she would have gone home if not for Sol saving her, she was only going home because of the team she was on, as it was all the other tribe... she was never a real target, until she made herself a target...

i think if she owned her game better, the final council would have went smoother for her...


Sue, also had a terrible counsil, which is too bad, she really could have made a good case for herself....

 

[calsnowskier]

Sue, also had a terrible counsil, which is too bad, she really could have made a good case for herself....

Her hypocrisy, and it getting called out in real time, was pretty funny, actually.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Her hypocrisy, and it getting called out in real time, was pretty funny, actually.

what hypocrisy?? you talking about lying about her age?? yes, playing with loyalty and honesty, and then admitting that you lied to everyone about something.... But even that, she could have owned, because that lie was outside of the game...

but she just never fought, she was too proud of just being there, that she didnt realize that she actually played a good game, and could have made it harder for Rachel to win...

 

[calsnowskier]

what hypocrisy?? you talking about lying about her age?? yes, playing with loyalty and honesty, and then admitting that you lied to everyone about something.... But even that, she could have owned, because that lie was outside of the game...

but she just never fought, she was too proud of just being there, that she didnt realize that she actually played a good game, and could have made it harder for Rachel to win...

Yes, that is the hypocrisy I am referring to. Granted, it is the most hypocrites action in the history of the game, but she stated that her game was entirely about honesty and loyalty, then she told everyone she has been lying to them the whole time. Bad look.

But yes, I agree that if she sold her game better, she would have had a chance.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Yes, that is the hypocrisy I am referring to. Granted, it is the most hypocrites action in the history of the game, but she stated that her game was entirely about honesty and loyalty, then she told everyone she has been lying to them the whole time. Bad look.

But yes, I agree that if she sold her game better, she would have had a chance.

rachel should have still won... but wouldnt be surprised if Sue got at least 2 votes... especially from Gabe and Caroline...

 

[calsnowskier]

rachel should have still won... but wouldnt be surprised if Sue got at least 2 votes... especially from Gabe and Caroline...

I don’t think anyone is even hinting at anyone other than Rachel winning or deserving the win. One of the more clear cut winners ever. Not quite in Boston Rob territory, but dominating, nonetheless.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I don’t think anyone is even hinting at anyone other than Rachel winning or deserving the win. One of the more clear cut winners ever. Not quite in Boston Rob territory, but dominating, nonetheless.

just wish she owned her game better... i dont think she knew the game she played... because she truly thought she was an underdog... Dee was a more dominating winner, but i liked Rachel's game more... at least what i thought of her game... not sure if Rachel saw what i saw...

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

I think i was with Rachel after the third episode. She did fly under the radar for a while , i thought. It seemed to be the Sam/ Sierra show in her tribe.

It did shock me in the final immunity challenge that she couldnt unscramble UNLOCK. She is a puzzle beast.

Wondering about possible changes to the game. Rome kind of exposed the Amulet advantage. We may not see that again.

Also the fire challenge. I do like it and it adds a layer to the game. Its just been shown that it can be learned how to accomplish in ttttt basically no time. I mean i really thought Teeny was going to cry her way out of it too. But she really did good.

 

[All-Star Benchwarmer]

Sue, also had a terrible counsil, which is too bad, she really could have made a good case for herself....

The only good case Sue could have made was that the surf didn't pull her by her pontoons out into the ocean. She found an idol, but didn't use it until the last tribal she could play it, because noone saw her as a threat. She didn't make any moves to shake the game up. Her loyalty was her weakness and it made her a goat.

 

[calsnowskier]

The only good case Sue could have made was that the surf didn't pull her by her pontoons out into the ocean. She found an idol, but didn't use it until the last tribal she could play it, because noone saw her as a threat. She didn't make any moves to shake the game up. Her loyalty was her weakness and it made her a goat.

But she was in a good position the whole way, what incentive did she have to “shake things up”?