Should the SEC adopt a 9 game conference schedule?

[RobBase]

Eliminate all OOC games. Play all conference games only. Conference title winners make the playoffs. Open up OOC games for playoffs only.

 

[trojanfan12]

Nobody forced you to put yourself at a disadvantage(which is greatly overstated). So why does it now need to be a rule that all play the same?

I don't decide how many games a conference chooses to play. And the disadvantage is not greatly overstated when some teams are risking an extra loss every season and others aren't and that extra loss keeps them out of the cfp or lands them in a less desireable bowl game.

If you can't see why all conferences, which are all playing for the same ultimate goal are playing under the same rules. Really shouldn't be that difficult to figure out.

 

[trojanfan12]

Because looking at actual strength rather than stupid labels is too hard.

Because scheduling a team that might actually be a threat requires balls.

 

[RobBase]

Because looking at actual strength rather than stupid labels is too hard.

Too subjective.

Sure, tOSU got 50+ dropped on them. But they persevered, beat an unbeaten team and won a title. But Kirby doesn't care about perseverance.

 

[4down20]

I don't decide how many games a conference chooses to play. And the disadvantage is not greatly overstated when some teams are risking an extra loss every season and others aren't and that extra loss keeps them out of the cfp or lands them in a less desireable bowl game.

If you can't see why all conferences, which are all playing for the same ultimate goal are playing under the same rules. Really shouldn't be that difficult to figure out.

Yeah, because the guarenteed conference wins mean nothing.

When the Pac12 wins the majority of their OOC games to start with, then you can start blaming it.

 

[The Oldtimer]

Eliminate all OOC games. Play all conference games only. Conference title winners make the playoffs. Open up OOC games for playoffs only.

That's a thought.

 

[DHoey]

Nobody forced you to put yourself at a disadvantage(which is greatly overstated). So why does it now need to be a rule that all play the same?

Bowl teams with 3 or less conference wins (since 2014)
PAC 2
SEC 10

 

[The Oldtimer]

Yeah, because the guarenteed conference wins mean nothing.

When the Pac12 wins the majority of their OOC games to start with, then you can start blaming it.

You mean when the PAC 12 starts scheduling, "Mercer" type schools?

 

[4down20]

Because scheduling a team that might actually be a threat requires balls.

And yet despite having 1 less conference game, the SEC regularly puts out tougher schedules.

But hey, grats on your struggle win against Western Michigan and Texas this year and getting blown out by Notre Dame. It makes it extra funny when you cry for conference champions deserving to make the playoffs.

 

[amszete]

No. The more OOC games the better for the sport. I wish all the conferences would go to 8 conference games.

^^ This.

At the least maybe even have agreements between conferences to play "x" many games over "x" amount of years.

 

[4down20]

Too subjective.

Sure, tOSU got 50+ dropped on them. But they persevered, beat an unbeaten team and won a title. But Kirby doesn't care about perseverance.

You mean a conference championship doesn't erase the entire season?

Good.

Only the blind hate the eye test.

 

[4down20]

Bowl teams with 3 or less conference wins (since 2014)
PAC 2
SEC 10

Now quote the Pac12's OOC record.

Also, lol @ your teams not being able to get in on academics while 5 win SEC teams do.

 

[The Oldtimer]

Because scheduling a team that might actually be a threat requires balls.

Yeah, I didn't think that Mercer was much of a threat.

 

[BTHOtu]

Pretty simple

SEC doesn’t need 9 conf games to get a team into the playoffs so why bother tipping the risk/reward scale

 

[trojanfan12]

Yeah, because the guarenteed conference wins mean nothing.

What you can't seem to grasp is that those conference wins aren't always guaranteed. Oregon St. was pretty much a guaranteed win this season. However, they have also been ranked 5 times in the 2000's and have had some solid teams that didn't get ranked.

So they are not always a "guaranteed win." Schools like Mercer and Coastal Carolina are always guaranteed wins.

Again, it's the difference between a team that has a chance to be a threat and team that will never be a threat.

 

[socaljim242]

And yet despite having 1 less conference game, the SEC regularly puts out tougher schedules.

But hey, grats on your struggle win against Western Michigan and Texas this year and getting blown out by Notre Dame. It makes it extra funny when you cry for conference champions deserving to make the playoffs.

Well No shit. If The Pac played one less game against each other and played two Mercers and Chattanooga also so every good team gets bumped up a few spots and every bad team is bowl eligible then the whole conference would have more ranked teams then BINGO tougher SOS. SEC SEC SEC

 

[4down20]

What you can't seem to grasp is that those conference wins aren't always guaranteed. Oregon St. was pretty much a guaranteed win this season. However, they have also been ranked 5 times in the 2000's and have had some solid teams that didn't get ranked.

So they are not always a "guaranteed win." Schools like Mercer and Coastal Carolina are always guaranteed wins.

Again, it's the difference between a team that has a chance to be a threat and team that will never be a threat.

You have 7 guartenteed wins and 7 guartenteed losses from the extra conference game and the overwhelming majority of the time the 7 wins go to the better teams and the 7 losses go to the bad ones.

I'm not doing it again, but the last time I went and did an actual look individually of the Pac12 teams and if it would have actually made a difference, it was like 1 or 2 teams over a 5 years period TOTAL. And that was while ignoring the OOC games that were lost.

And I'm not doing it again because the truth doesn't really matter to you guys. You need something to bitch about, you assume it means a big deal regardless of the actual evidence. All that ever happens is that thread will end, or the topic will get changed to one of your other talking points, and then a new thread will appear a week later with the same lame ass claims.

 

[trojanfan12]

Eliminate all OOC games. Play all conference games only. Conference title winners make the playoffs. Open up OOC games for playoffs only.

The only problem is that people want to see those OOC games. I mean, it ended up being a blowout, but who wasn't excited about USC/Alabama last year? Or Oklahoma/tOSU this year?

Lots of revenue in those games.

 

[4down20]

Well No shit. If The Pac played one less game against each other and played two Mercers and Chattanooga also so every good team gets bumped up a few spots and every bad team is bowl eligible then the whole conference would have more ranked teams then BINGO tougher SOS. SEC SEC SEC

Sounds good, except your conference does play FCS teams. It's just doesn't seem that way to you because you only cry about the SEC.

 

[The Oldtimer]

Pretty simple

SEC doesn’t need 9 conf games to get a team into the playoffs so why bother tipping the risk/reward scale

Good point, as long as the SEC can get a 3rd place team in the conference, into a 4 team playoff, then why change anything?