Second cup of Coffee Talk

[scoutyjones2]

Who do you think were running things in the 40s and 50s when all these dumb statues got put up in the first place? Most Southern governors of the era served either in WWI, during the Interwar Period or, near the end, WWII (Wallace, Faubus etc.). They had no problem erecting monuments to traitors and it's their descendants and descendants of their followers (many of whom also served) who are walking around with lit-up lawn ornaments screaming "BLOOD AND SOIL".

I thought the majority were put up in 1910 era...there was a revival in the 50's and 60's

 

[forty_three]

So, which it is? Bills passed or not?

"Executive Orders" aren't bills you fuggin' plonker.

Although you may be right. I doubt any person since Reagan has done more for the people fighting for ISIS.

As pointless as I believe all this statue protesting is, I have always found it odd that there aren’t more (or any, really) statues of or street names in honour of former slaves who held public office during Reconstruction. On that, there is definitely a point to be made.

Following on with the reason the Confederate statues got put up in the first place, one would argue that there aren't any statues of those types of leaders because the black people in the 60's didn't have the kind of power it took to put up statues with the sole purpose of pissing off whitey.

 

[elocomotive]

Slavery debate, Civil War, lynchings, Jim Crow laws, voting rights obstruction, segregated schools, confederate flags, PCism... and on and on.


How many times do these idiots have to be wrong about what will "destroy our country and way of life" only to eventually realize they were wrong and morally bankrupt to believe it to be so?

After a couple hundred years, it's getting fucking old.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I thought the majority were put up in 1910 era...there was a revival in the 50's and 60's

My understanding was a lot of them were put up at the start of Jim Crow and a lot were put up during the start of the Civil Rights Era. For example, Stone Mountain was started in 1916 but wasn't actually completed until 72, with much of the work occurring during the 60s.

If there's any available information as to an exact count I'm open to it. I just haven't seen any.

Following on with the reason the Confederate statues got put up in the first place, one would argue that there aren't any statues of those types of leaders because the black people in the 60's didn't have the kind of power it took to put up statues with the sole purpose of pissing off whitey.

Oh it would definitely have come after. I just mean with all the black mayors who have served in cities like Atlanta, Memphis, Jackson etc. you'd think it woulda happened by now.

 

[thedddd]

Shit, they even spread that campaign into Canada:

Confederate plaque on Montreal Hudson's Bay store removed

Yep come across as some "loving" organization and is really no different than any other one of those groups.
At one time they literally pushed for "textbooks for public schools that told the story of the war and the Confederacy from a definite southern point of view".

 

[thedddd]

I thought the majority were put up in 1910 era...there was a revival in the 50's and 60's

Yeah the exact number is hard to find because some started and took a long time to complete (IE Stone Mountain as BBB stated). But when you go around some of these small towns that didn't have statues prior to the 50's they magically appeared in their respected town squares.

 

[thedddd]

Shit, they even spread that campaign into Canada:

Confederate plaque on Montreal Hudson's Bay store removed

You know the other shady thing with this organization. They consider themselves non-profit and are tax exempt.
Sounds fishy like some other major groups...having a hard time putting my finger on it but it might falwell soon into my lap.

 

[thedddd]

I thought the majority were put up in 1910 era...there was a revival in the 50's and 60's

Not as big as the 1910 ERA but still significant as it pertained to the Civil Rights movement.

 

[thedddd]

Here is a complete list:

List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America - Wikipedia

 

[scoutyjones2]

We do love our statues!

 

[thedddd]

We do love our statues!

Just think some day there will be a Trump statue along with a Trump library.
But it will only hold books with a reading level of the age of 3 and under along with the Art of the Deal which can only be purchased at the Library and not checked out.

 

[Darkstone42]

As pointless as I believe all this statue protesting is, I have always found it odd that there aren’t more (or any, really) statues of or street names in honour of former slaves who held public office during Reconstruction. On that, there is definitely a point to be made.

It's not odd, it's intentional, and those are the statues that should be put up to replace the Confederate ones, in my opinion. It would be the closest thing to a substantive apology they could probably bring themselves to make (if they can even do that).

 

[scoutyjones2]

Just think some day there will be a Trump statue along with a Trump library.
But it will only hold books with a reading level of the age of 3 and under along with the Art of the Deal which can only be purchased at the Library and not checked out.

 

[thedddd]

Montana congressman booked after assault conviction

Forgot about this d-bag and there is no push to make him resign. Oh that's right he didn't name call the President.

 

[dash]

Gorka out (yay), Arpaio pardoned (boo) and Harvey blows (take cover folks).

 

[puckhead]

 

[dare2be]

How about for anyone who actually paid for the fight.

 

[thedddd]

https://news.google.com/news/video/N1InVlymfnk/dYB8WdFLxgU-lVMUQgOuIVhIFL6AM?hl=en&ned=us

Yeah watching out for price gouging....all except the oil companies.

 

[Comeds]

The funny pages have gotten really weird.

 

[puckhead]

damn.




I have relatives in Houston.
As of yesterday, they said the wind wasn't bad, but the rain was unbelievable.
Avg annual rainfall in Houston is 50 inches. they could get that inside of a week.