Second cup of Coffee Talk

[elocomotive]

Well, that's great Nick feels that way. Whoever he is.

 

[thedddd]

Well, that's great Nick feels that way. Whoever he is.

About sums it up:

 

[dare2be]

Many, including Lee and Jackson, were veterans of both the USA and CSA militaries.

But, they became traitors to the USA.

 

[mooger_35]

This is a great twitter thread

 

[elocomotive]

Oddly enough, I'm sitting here waiting for my lunch from a food truck looking at the ONLY confederate statue in the District.

 

[dash]

Apologies if already posted (and apologies for content within link)

11 photos of NYC’s naked Trump statue

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

But, they became traitors to the USA.

Undoubtedly. But the premise of the argument, dumb as it may be, isn't exactly false.

 

[elocomotive]

Apologies if already posted (and apologies for content within link)

11 photos of NYC’s naked Trump statue

Dash, that link isn't working, but I found the correct one.

 

[dare2be]

Undoubtedly. But the premise of the argument, dumb as it may be, isn't exactly false.

Yeah. So was Benedict Arnold. At least he defected to a real country.

 

[dash]

Dash, that link isn't working, but I found the correct one.

I think I just got Fat Trump rolled.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

This is a great twitter thread

As pointless as I believe all this statue protesting is, I have always found it odd that there aren’t more (or any, really) statues of or street names in honour of former slaves who held public office during Reconstruction. On that, there is definitely a point to be made.

 

[elocomotive]

"Unless I'm golfing over the weekend. On second thought, just catch up with me on Monday!"

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Yeah. So was Benedict Arnold. At least he defected to a real country.

Hey, y'all got him covered too. Kinda...

Boot Monument - Wikipedia

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I'm kinda surprised there aren't any Benedict Arnold statues in Loyalist Country here in Ontario.

 

[Comeds]

Well, that's great Nick feels that way. Whoever he is.

He is one of Ernest Hemingway's characters. I guess he knows whats going on then.

 

[thedddd]

Undoubtedly. But the premise of the argument, dumb as it may be, isn't exactly false.

This guy was in the US military
James Joseph Dresnok - Wikipedia
I highly doubt anyone would ever call him a US Veteran.

In theory he was but no true US Veteran would ever consider someone that was a traitor to their county as a Veteran.
That is what is so mind blowing with this whole argument and how nonsensical it is.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

In theory he was but no true US Veteran would ever consider someone that was a traitor to their county as a Veteran.
That is what is so mind blowing with this whole argument and how nonsensical it is.

Who do you think were running things in the 40s and 50s when all these dumb statues got put up in the first place? Most Southern governors of the era served either in WWI, during the Interwar Period or, near the end, WWII (Wallace, Faubus etc.). They had no problem erecting monuments to traitors and it's their descendants and descendants of their followers (many of whom also served) who are walking around with lit-up lawn ornaments screaming "BLOOD AND SOIL".

 

[thedddd]

Who do you think were running things in the 40s and 50s when all these dumb statues got put up in the first place? Most Southern governors of the era served either in WWI, during the Interwar Period or, near the end, WWII (Wallace, Faubus etc.). They had no problem erecting monuments to traitors and it's their descendants and descendants of their followers (many of whom also served) who are walking around with lit-up lawn ornaments screaming "BLOOD AND SOIL".

Exactly I referenced that in an earlier post.

Don't forget the great "United Daughters of the Confederacy" that funded plenty of these works.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Exactly I referenced that in an earlier post.

Don't forget the great "United Daughters of the Confederacy" that funded plenty of these works.

Shit, they even spread that campaign into Canada:

Confederate plaque on Montreal Hudson's Bay store removed

 

[dash]

Shit, they even spread that campaign into Canada:

Some Canadians like to fly the confederate flag at outdoor music jamborees.

Confederate flags seen at Sask. country music festival despite organizers’ request they be left at home