Ryan Pole Hired as Bears GM

[NCChiFan]

Question - is the roster we have now more talented overall than BEFORE Poles got the job?

It is, except in one area where it is just as bad... The O line.

 

[BeaReylo]

It is, except in one area where it is just as bad... The O line.

Based on what? The Bears have finished in the division cellar every year since Poles took over. At least one of Pace's teams won the division and made an additional playoff appearance. I'll give Poles Odunze and Moore, who hasn't had his best season this year, but how many players on the current squad strikes you as a Pro-Bowler; a superstar? At least Pace got Mooney, Mack, Allen Robinson, Montgomery, Quinn, and Roquan Smith. I was able to list these guys off the tip of my head. And it's a bit telling that Poles has spent an abundance of resources on the defense and the best player in it is Jaylon Johnson who was drafted by Pace?

If Poles' squad is so much more superior then why are they finishing dead last every single season? Outside of the Carolina deal, which he only got because Lovie Smith wanted to win so Hous wouldn't get the number one pick, he hasn't done anything note worthy or bring The Bears to prominence? In his fourth year the team shouldn't still be a disaster, looking just as bad as his first.

 

[Jiddy]

Based on what? The Bears have finished in the division cellar every year since Poles took over. At least one of Pace's teams won the division and made an additional playoff appearance. I'll give Poles Odunze and Moore, who hasn't had his best season this year, but how many players on the current squad strikes you as a Pro-Bowler; a superstar? At least Pace got Mooney, Mack, Allen Robinson, Montgomery, Quinn, and Roquan Smith. I was able to list these guys off the tip of my head. And it's a bit telling that Poles has spent an abundance of resources on the defense and the best player in it is Jaylon Johnson who was drafted by Pace?

If Poles' squad is so much more superior then why are they finishing dead last every single season? Outside of the Carolina deal, which he only got because Lovie Smith wanted to win so Hous wouldn't get the number one pick, he hasn't done anything note worthy or bring The Bears to prominence? In his fourth year the team shouldn't still be a disaster, looking just as bad as his first.

To add to it, when we do win under Poles, as rare as it is, it’s almost always a shit team with. Shit qb or some other issue going on with them.

 

[averagejoe]

If Poles' squad is so much more superior then why are they finishing dead last every single season?

The Lions, Vikes and Pack are 26-8 combined!!! They are the better (if not the best) teams in the conference.

Those 3 are 9-4 just in their own division!!

Its not like Poles is off the hook, but all season long this board has lamented the coaching. From the development of Caleb (i.e. Waldron) to the infuriating and frustrating in-game coaching decisions (Eberflus).

Coaching is more of the reason for the record. Not Poles.

 

[NCChiFan]

Based on what? The Bears have finished in the division cellar every year since Poles took over. At least one of Pace's teams won the division and made an additional playoff appearance. I'll give Poles Odunze and Moore, who hasn't had his best season this year, but how many players on the current squad strikes you as a Pro-Bowler; a superstar? At least Pace got Mooney, Mack, Allen Robinson, Montgomery, Quinn, and Roquan Smith. I was able to list these guys off the tip of my head. And it's a bit telling that Poles has spent an abundance of resources on the defense and the best player in it is Jaylon Johnson who was drafted by Pace?

If Poles' squad is so much more superior then why are they finishing dead last every single season? Outside of the Carolina deal, which he only got because Lovie Smith wanted to win so Hous wouldn't get the number one pick, he hasn't done anything note worthy or bring The Bears to prominence? In his fourth year the team shouldn't still be a disaster, looking just as bad as his first.

Pro bowlers, LB (1), Safety (1) but is injured now. Nickle back (1) best in the league, Johnson, CB, Punter (possible pro bowler).

Close: Swift, but there r runners behind much better O lines.

Problem with the skilled Offensive players? O line sucked in combination with a Rookie QB. Williams has a great ceiling, he will be fine, but everything hinges upon the O line that can't protect a QB adjusting to the speed & defenses of the NFL. He was destined to hold the ball too long. 59 sacks later, fired OC later, fired HC later, who knows. Obviously, Allen has had a pro Bowl type Career, we have seen what DJ is capable of, rare a rookie WR hits the pro bowl.

 

[BearsWillWin]

Close: Swift, but there r runners behind much better O lines.

Wait....are you saying Swift is close to being a Pro Bowler?

 

[NCChiFan]

Wait....are you saying Swift is close to being a Pro Bowler?

I'm saying he could be in the running with a better o line, yes. He does a lot of things really well, great hands, good vision, good speed. Give the kid some blocking he could rack up the yards. Also, he would need to have Roshan hurt for more goal line touches. Now I did not say HoF...