Reviewing The Westbrook Trade

[Wamu]

I don't think super team necessarily carries the requirement of chasing free agents, just an overload of talent. Free agency wasn't even an option for a good chunk of NBA history.

I just can't put those Celtics teams of the 50's and 60's into a super team category. To me a super team is built though trades. The Celtics drafted their players.

 

[DJ]

Already putting in work....

 

[Picklerick 2.0]

How does the grade out now?

 

[BigKen]

I just can't put those Celtics teams of the 50's and 60's into a super team category. To me a super team is built though trades. The Celtics drafted their players.

I just can't put you into the intelligent category.

First, you make a stupid statement when you apparently have zero knowledge of the 50's and 60's.
Second, the Celtics made trades for guys like Ed McAuley in the 50's.
Third, the Celtic broke the color barrier when they drafted the first black player named Chuck Cooper.
Fourth, There was no free agency, no salary cap. If you couldn't draft, you couldn't win. Drafting was the only way to build a team, Most teams back then just didn't know how to do it.

Oh yeah, I was alive and listening to the Celtics on the radio in 1955. No NBA on TV. When I read about Russell being drafted in '56 i danced around the house. When I actually met him in 1965, I leaked in my tightie whities. He came to a wedding at one of only three black families in Portland, ME.
I was the only white person there but didn't even notice until he asked me why I was there. He said to me, "You have a lot of friends here, but you'll have a hell of a lot more enemies out there." I was 15 years old and didn't have an inkling of what he meant. I learned three years later when I went into the service.

 

[Mecca]

I just can't put you into the intelligent category.

First, you make a stupid statement when you apparently have zero knowledge of the 50's and 60's.
Second, the Celtics made trades for guys like Ed McAuley in the 50's.
Third, the Celtic broke the color barrier when they drafted the first black player named Chuck Cooper.
Fourth, There was no free agency, no salary cap. If you couldn't draft, you couldn't win. Drafting was the only way to build a team, Most teams back then just didn't know how to do it.

Oh yeah, I was alive and listening to the Celtics on the radio in 1955. No NBA on TV. When I read about Russell being drafted in '56 i danced around the house. When I actually met him in 1965, I leaked in my tightie whities. He came to a wedding at one of only three black families in Portland, ME.
I was the only white person there but didn't even notice until he asked me why I was there. He said to me, "You have a lot of friends here, but you'll have a hell of a lot more enemies out there." I was 15 years old and didn't have an inkling of what he meant. I learned three years later when I went into the service.

The Wamu slander aside, this is an AMAZING post about Bill.

I have had similar experiences over the years.

Completely oblivious about being the only black person in a room until someone else mentioned it.

I also learned the same lesson in the Navy.

But, I also learned, we can tab!e our differences, at least temporarily, to focus on a bigger issue.

* Even when it's based on a lie *

Desert Storm.

 

[Wamu]

I just can't put you into the intelligent category.

First, you make a stupid statement when you apparently have zero knowledge of the 50's and 60's.
Second, the Celtics made trades for guys like Ed McAuley in the 50's.
Third, the Celtic broke the color barrier when they drafted the first black player named Chuck Cooper.
Fourth, There was no free agency, no salary cap. If you couldn't draft, you couldn't win. Drafting was the only way to build a team, Most teams back then just didn't know how to do it.

Oh yeah, I was alive and listening to the Celtics on the radio in 1955. No NBA on TV. When I read about Russell being drafted in '56 i danced around the house. When I actually met him in 1965, I leaked in my tightie whities. He came to a wedding at one of only three black families in Portland, ME.
I was the only white person there but didn't even notice until he asked me why I was there. He said to me, "You have a lot of friends here, but you'll have a hell of a lot more enemies out there." I was 15 years old and didn't have an inkling of what he meant. I learned three years later when I went into the service.

You're always such a fool. And get the name right. It's Macauley not McAuley.

But I will say didn't know he was drafted by St. Louis, thought Boston drafted him.

So since you think, and I use that term think loosely with you, Red built his Celtics dynasty through trade more than the draft how many of the players were traded for (Russell doesn't count) and not drafted?

I'm not looking that info up but I'd bet the majority of the Celtics HOFers from the 50's & 60's were drafted and not traded for.

 

[msgkings322]

The tricks he knows are helpful to LA. These are the best players in the world, they know how to adjust.

This did not age well

 

[msgkings322]

It's good to be the Lakers.

This also did not age well

 

[trojanfan12]

This also did not age well

Not so far.

 

[bksballer89]

Russ is a pretty old dog... hard to hold out hope that he will learn new tricks.

Post of the thread

 

[bksballer89]

Yeah, after AD and James were both hurt? Our offense was horrible.....I think Rob was focused on getting better offensively as insurance even if we fall back a little defensively, We still have some good defenders so getting stops shouldn't be an issue.

LMFAOOOO

 

[PPhan]

This did not age well

Yeah, I never believed Westbrook and LeBron would be a good fit.

He’d be a better fit with someone like KD (as proven before) or Steph Curry. Guys who don’t necessarily need to be ball dominant to score.

 

[tlance]

Yeah, I never believed Westbrook and LeBron would be a good fit.

He’d be a better fit with someone like KD (as proven before) or Steph Curry. Guys who don’t necessarily need to be ball dominant to score.

Except Russ wasn’t a good fit with KD. He routinely took the ball out of KD’s hands in the biggest moments.

To a certain extent Steph and KD can both fit with ANYBODY. But that is more about their games than it is about Russ.

And even then, Russ isn’t the ideal paring for either.

 

[PPhan]

Except Russ wasn’t a good fit with KD. He routinely took the ball out of KD’s hands in the biggest moments.

To a certain extent Steph and KD can both fit with ANYBODY. But that is more about their games than it is about Russ.

And even then, Russ isn’t the ideal paring for either.

I agree with you.

I also meant to quote another post from earlier mentioning that if anybody could play with Westbrook it’d be LeBron and my reply was mostly meant for that post.

Though not ideal, KD and Steph can deal with it easier than a LeBron or Doncic can.

 

[msgkings322]

I agree with you.

I also meant to quote another post from earlier mentioning that if anybody could play with Westbrook it’d be LeBron and my reply was mostly meant for that post.

Though not ideal, KD and Steph can deal with it easier than a LeBron or Doncic can.

I said this earlier, it's kind of sad with Westbrook. All that heart and drive but his game just doesn't fit well with other stars. Kind of Iverson-esque

 

[tlance]

I said this earlier, it's kind of sad with Westbrook. All that heart and drive but his game just doesn't fit well with other stars. Kind of Iverson-esque

It will be interesting to see how the next generation of stars develop.

On ball skill sets have been king in basketball development for a long time now. Really since the Jordan era.

Maybe Curry and Durant have shifted the thinking a bit?

You still have to be able to perform with the ball in your hands to be a great player.

But to be a great teammate, you really have to be able to perform away from the ball too.

 

[msgkings322]

It will be interesting to see how the next generation of stars develop.

On ball skill sets have been king in basketball development for a long time now. Really since the Jordan era.

Maybe Curry and Durant have shifted the thinking a bit?

You still have to be able to perform with the ball in your hands to be a great player.

But to be a great teammate, you really have to be able to perform away from the ball too.

Another sort of "hidden" reason Curry is great, he's as good running around without the ball as he is on ball

 

[WiggyRuss]

Another sort of "hidden" reason Curry is great, he's as good running around without the ball as he is on ball

Another sort of "hidden" reason Curry is great, he's as good running around without the ball as he is on ball

that little fucker is so lucky he didnt play in the late 80's/ 90's.

 

[tlance]

that little fucker is so lucky he didnt play in the late 80's/ 90's.

Bitter much?

 

[msgkings322]

that little fucker is so lucky he didnt play in the late 80's/ 90's.

And Shaq is lucky he didn't play today